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Panos Panay teases the future of Windows 10 (live tiles, start menu, file explorer and context menu) to celebrate 1 billion active installations

Bernkastel

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I guess I should clarify about live tiles and Windows 10X. First of all live tiles arent going away.
Secondly, Windows 10X is not a replacement for Windows 10. I see even the likes of Linus Tech Tips making this mistake. Its meant for small dual screen devices like Surface Neo where you cant use standard Windows 10. People are assuming the death of Windows 10 because of it. Its part of the Windows Core OS project, which is meant for Neo, Hub, Mixed Reality and Xbox Series X(Gamecore).
Windows 10X may even come to tablets, but that would mean Windows 10 would be completely focused on desktop only. The start menu without live tiles is also from Windows 10X.
 
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Dr.D00p

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I don't use any of this shit they keep shoving at me.

I turn on my PC, browse the internet, play a game, turn it off. RInse repeat next day.

All I know is precious SSD space on by boot drive keeps getting eaten up each time they do something like this.
 

Grinchy

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I confess, I have used Windows 10 for almost a year now and have no idea what a live tile even is.
I've used it since the moment they made it a free upgrade for W8 users, so like 5 years maybe? I still have no idea what a live tile is.
 

Bernkastel

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I don't use any of this shit they keep shoving at me.

I turn on my PC, browse the internet, play a game, turn it off. RInse repeat next day.

All I know is precious SSD space on by boot drive keeps getting eaten up each time they do something like this.
Theres a reason Panos Panay(previously head of Surface) is now in charge. Lets see where things go under him.
 
Are live tiles the customizable start menu shortcut icons in general, or specific ones?

I'm probably an odd guy out, but I like being able to customize my start menu layout and change icon size. I can hit Windows key and immediately have a mini-Desktop in front of me with all my folders, programs, and some common scripts pinned.
 

Valonquar

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Know what would be really neat? If they kept all this bloated garbage out of Enterprise versions. So many hours every quarter removing this shit from the .wim file for imaging.
 

Grinchy

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A live tile is any tile that shows content. Like how the live tile for Outlook shows the latest mail, the calendar tile shows your next appointment, the photo tile shows a slideshow of pictures.
Ah, ok. I actually like the tiles on the start menu and use them a lot, but somehow I must have taken off anything that updated or was "live" in any way a long time ago.

I just use it for grouped up media folders, exe's, ect.
 
I wish they would add drag and drop from taskbar contextual menus like Windows 7, or at least "Open Containing Folder". That shit saves so much time finding attachments and recent work.
 

Bernkastel

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Windows 10X looks terrible:

Secondly, Windows 10X is not a replacement for Windows 10. I see even the likes of Linus Tech Tips making this mistake. Its meant for small dual screen devices like Surface Neo where you cant use standard Windows 10. People are assuming the death of Windows 10 because of it. Its part of the Windows Core OS project, which is meant for Neo, Hub, Mixed Reality and Xbox Series X(Gamecore).
Windows 10X may even come to tablets, but that would mean Windows 10 would be completely focused on desktop only. The start menu without live tiles is also from Windows 10X.
They made Windows 10X for Surface Neo, because you cant run desktop Windows 10 on it. Or do you want them to adapt desktop Windows 10 for small dual screen devices now ?
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

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The other day I opened a laptop so that I could pass it on and it updated itself. It completely broke the laptop. I had do a clean install of the OS. Good shit MS. Thankfully it was a W8 laptop so I needed no key apparently.
 

Bernkastel

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Panos Panay leading Windows seems to be the best thing that could happen
 
can they please bring back windows 7 aero/transparency/glass? Even MacOS BigSur is using it and looks sleek-polished-stylish. In fluent design they call the transparency "acrylic" which is stupid.

Their design-aesthetic team needs get going on this. ICON art looks stupid as well.
 

Bernkastel

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can they please bring back windows 7 aero/transparency/glass? Even MacOS BigSur is using it and looks sleek-polished-stylish. In fluent design they call the transparency "acrylic" which is stupid.

Their design-aesthetic team needs get going on this. ICON art looks stupid as well.
"acrylic" is less demanding on the system than aero/transparency/glass.
 

Tesseract

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Bernkastel

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Greedings

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I hate windows 10. It's trying to be a Mac OS, but retains all the clunkiness of windows. Worst of both worlds.
 
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will they use the acrylic affect on file explorer, and rest of the windows? they really need to focus on the aesthetics of the OS. Why is this fluent design process so slow?
 
So the white mouse pointer was racist all along?

Such a narrow view.

Sometimes I have a picture as my background which is either predominantly grey or white. Being able to choose a yellow, red, green or whatever bright fucking colour I want to make it easier for me to find the cursor. Isn’t having an option just good? Why does everything have to be about race ffs.
 

nbcjr

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Such a narrow view.

Sometimes I have a picture as my background which is either predominantly grey or white. Being able to choose a yellow, red, green or whatever bright fucking colour I want to make it easier for me to find the cursor. Isn’t having an option just good? Why does everything have to be about race ffs.
unless it is dynamic, it is not very useful.

also, video is dope.
 

nkarafo

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Why does everything have to be about race ffs.
thatsthejoke.jpg
 

Jethalal

Banned
Really wish they actually make some Windows 11, I like switching things up completely from time to time.
 
Really wish they actually make some Windows 11, I like switching things up completely from time to time.
They would have to make the OS from the ground up with a new kernel. Lets wait for build and see what they have.

Windows 10x or Windows Core should be exciting because its adaptive OS based on form factor, and MS desperately needs to bring that kind of OS to tap into the tablet and mobile market.

They also need to make more stand alone desktop/laptop/tablet devices for pen support using AMD hardware for good price to performance ratio. They have reached a sweet spot with CPU and GPU performance with their Zen and RDNA microarchitecture, plus additional exciting hardware from Intel and NVIDIA. MS and OEMS desperately need to make a desktop surface studio refresh with 1:1 pen writing and 120hz refresh rate (with better wide color gamut, support for HDR, VRR, 4k res).

Windows 10 ARM has been out for a while and still sucks due to subpar performance of QUALCOMM chips, possible MS inhouse ARM microarchitecture and AMD making ARM chips could potentially make Windows 10 ARM run just as great as MacOS Big Sur on Apple Custom silicon M1 chip.
 
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Jethalal

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They would have to make the OS from the ground up with a new kernel. Lets wait for build and see what they have.

Windows 10x or Windows Core should be exciting because its adaptive OS based on form factor, and MS desperately needs to bring that kind of OS to tap into the tablet and mobile market.

They also need to make more stand alone desktop/laptop/tablet devices for pen support using AMD hardware for good price to performance ratio. They have reached a sweet spot with CPU and GPU performance with their Zen and RDNA microarchitecture, plus additional exciting hardware from Intel and NVIDIA. MS and OEMS desperately need to make a desktop surface studio refresh with 1:1 pen writing and 120hz refresh rate (with better wide gamut color, support for HDR, VRR, 4k res).

Windows 10 ARM has been out for a while and still sucks due to subpar performance of QUALCOMM chips, possible MS inhouse ARM microarchitecture and AMD making ARM chips could potentially make Windows 10 ARM run just as great as MacOS Big Sur on Apple Custom silicon M1 chip.
It seems unlikely to me too, the aesthetics of Microsoft apps like Office, Teams,etc. matches W10 and I doubt they are moving away from the design language so quickly. It was more of a wish tbh.
 
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