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Person listed as 'black girl' in high school yearbook
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galeninjapan
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Blackace said:
Aryan race? :lol
galeninjapan
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Ape-american?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
MIMIC said:
but isn't that any white person any where in the world? I look at being called black a way to describe me... I look at African American a way to make me different than other Americans.. just my way of thinking... not saying its correct...
galeninjapan
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Amoeba-American?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
MIMIC said:
Well being mixed as I am, I would rather be called black just because of the shade of my skin. Also, people of other races are calling me that anyways..just get out in the open...
I am often called just an American here in Japan and that suits me well... if there is more than one American and people ask which one... the black one.. hahah works for me
galeninjapan
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snaildog said:
According to the Bible the Jewish tribes were slaves of Egypt, so in the end all of us were slaves (except fot he egyptions).
snaildog said:
Yup cause all blacks have it made today thanks to scholarships!
Blackace said:
Thank you blackace.
Your humorous comment is exactly what I mean... Here's a few definitions I've seen:
1. All persons having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa
2. African Americans, also known as Afro-Americans or Black Americans, are an ethnic group in the United States of America whose ancestors, usually in predominant part, were indigenous to Sub-Saharan and West Africa. The majority of African Americans are of African, and (usually) Native American ancestry. Many African Americans also have European ancestors.
Now... if I apply #1 then why the f*ck go through the whole African American lable? If you have origins in the black racial groups of Africa... you're black. #2 is more interesting though because it goes in to specific WHERE in Africa your ancestors had to live to be considered are African...
How many f'n black people today who can trace back their ancestry(I can!) in this country know where in Africa there ancestors came from?
I'm Black... I don't need the politically correct "uplifting" phrase African American. I'm a proud black man, living in a crazy white mans' world... amen.
None of this really touches on the biggest problem I have with this story.... there is no way in hell this girl could be Black... she's on the Honor Society for chrissakes! <rimshot>
This is a shoutout to all my other Blacks who made the Honor Roll, took AP classes in high school, etc...... we showed em boyee!!!
mrklaw said:
We already did... that's where this dumb ass(IMO) African American term came from.
Interesting read of our progress from Negro, through Afro-American(which IMO is even worse than African-American), to today's African-American all in search of a strong identity....
http://www.africultures.com/anglais/articles_anglais/41cremieux.htm
meh, if you're fat... you're fat. whether you take offence to being called fat is your own problem. i'm so sick of all the PC shit.Desperado said:
fat person: "am i fat?"
other person: "uh... no. you're just big boned."
honest person: "don't be a wanker man. yes, you're fat."
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okay, you just said what i wanted to say, but more succinctly.catfish said:
pfft, when did the bible ever get anything right.... oops.galeninjapan said:
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mrklaw said:
Brits are mostly a mixed group all around. Celts are the main original population.
Vikings had numerous incursions and settlements, but their impact is more symbolic than real. It was also greatly glamorized during and after the Victorian era. DNA test show there is no great concentration of Danish and Norwegian DNA, except in a few areas in Wales and the Northern tip of England.
Saxons, another germanic group, had more of an impact all around.
The French and Romans also made a large contribution to the genetic and linguistic profile of Brits.
f*ck the dumb shit I'm Viking-American from now on. Henceforth I shall be known as Darien the Sour after my ancestors Ragnar the Dour, Hyglak the Quarrelsome and Haltaf the Boy(they ran out of good nicknames for poor Haltaf).
I mean come on who wouldn't want to be related to folks name:
Herger the Joyous, Edgtho the Silent, Ragnar the Dour, Helfdane the Fat, Rethel the Archer, Haltaf the Boy, Halga the Wise, Skeld the Superstitious, Weath the Musician or Hyglak the Quarrelsome?
I mean come on who wouldn't want to be related to folks name:
Herger the Joyous, Edgtho the Silent, Ragnar the Dour, Helfdane the Fat, Rethel the Archer, Haltaf the Boy, Halga the Wise, Skeld the Superstitious, Weath the Musician or Hyglak the Quarrelsome?
karasu
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snaildog said:
My mom was opressed, my grandmom was opressed, my uncles were opressed, my aunts were opressed too. Opression didn't end with slavery dear fellow.Things are much better now, but we're playing a game of catch up here. We aren't on equal ground.
Maybe you don't need uplifting, but others did and still do. I can't believe people are finding fault with a group wanting to define THEMSELVES as oppossed to being defined by the people who felt nothing but contempt for them! In many ways the defiance that drove people to call themselves "black" is the same 'defiance' that drives them to call themselves nigga.
karasu said:
Bah my disgust with it has to do with the fact that the label itself is meaningless without some type of meaningful MOVEMENT within the Black community towards change for themselves, and we have not seen that.
Until we DO see it, changing f'n labels is the least of our problems.
Yes you can bitch about the inequalities of life, I have to do this because it's the only way to surivive, etc., etc... one day you have to wake up and say... f*ck I'm gonna make it IN SPITE of the roadblocks that been put up in front of me by the white devil.
Plus when the revolution finally comes we'll just string up all the honkys and be done with it anyway...
karasu
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DarienA said:Bah my disgust with it has to do with the fact that the label itself is meaningless without some type of meaningful MOVEMENT within the Black community towards change for themselves, and we have not seen that.
Until we DO see it, changing f'n labels is the least of our problems.
Yes you can bitch about the inequalities of life, I have to do this because it's the only way to surivive, etc., etc... one day you have to wake up and say... f*ck I'm gonna make it IN SPITE of the roadblocks that been put up in front of me by the white devil.
Plus when the revolution finally comes we'll just string up all the honkys and be done with it anyway...
There WAS change going on, and there still is. Nobody is talking about arguing over what to call yourself in between ginger snaps and reruns of Good Times. It's a process, everything isn't gonna turn to gold in 30 or 40 years. Especially considering that society as a whole is headed for the crapper.
karasu said:
Please point me to said change, hell please point me to INDICATORS of of said change because I sure as hell haven't seen it.
Folks much older and much wiser than I am haven't seen much of it either.
You know it's funny, talking to folks lately about this same issue we've all started to think that the Black community has never really recovered from Martin Luther King Jr's death... floundering around while all these half-assed "black leaders" come on the scene.... How much REAL progress has been made since his death?
Leatherface
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galeninjapan said:
:lol
too funny..
Tommie Hu$tle
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MIMIC said:
Really, I don't know a one person that uses the term in any real sense. The people I know are comfortable in their Blackness to be Black. African-American is guilt speak for White people the way I see it.
Is an African-American and an African-English the same thing? What about a African-Brazillian or an African-Hatiian? These terms mean nothing to me.
Black is an race and and ethnicity it's all how it's used in context.
Besides my skin tone I have no ethnic relationship to anyone from Africa. I celebrate different customs and culture. The Black (American) cultural experience is unique.I don't consider a Hatian or a Ethopian or an Egyptian ethnically Black although they are racially African. Same thing with an Englishman and a Frenchman both are racially white (in this example) but, they have a different ethnicity.
Make sense?
karasu said:
...The above is a dumb statement considering what I've already said in this thread, but I believe I see what you are trying to say so....
Yes and we have black business owners, black millionaires, etc.... which doesn't change the fact that on the whole %-wise the majority of blacks in American still aren't doing very well, in school, in college and in the workforce. More whites are on social services... but I believe a HIGHER percentage of the blacks relative to the total black population is on social services... that's an indicator to me... and not a good one.
As for me being the only one? No... but I'll tell you in the architectural firm I work at? There are FEW black men here. VERY few.
my Egyptian friend was pissed that he couldn't call himself African American on his college application.
In more general terms, we need to get rid of the retarded "African American" term altogether, because it has simply become a placeholder for "black" with no thought to the actual meaning of the phrase. Moroccans can't describe themselves as "African American" if they're naturalized US citizens? How retarded is that?
In more general terms, we need to get rid of the retarded "African American" term altogether, because it has simply become a placeholder for "black" with no thought to the actual meaning of the phrase. Moroccans can't describe themselves as "African American" if they're naturalized US citizens? How retarded is that?
Spazbiohaz
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I remember when African-American was in style back in 96-97 that was funny. I almost got attack in all my classes because I said that it was a dumb term I asked in class who is African American and 10 people raised there hand, then I asked who has been to Africa and no one raised their hand. So I said oh! so you are all Americans. They proceed to insist that they were African-American so I asked what am I, and they replied White. HAHAHAHAHA... I was like um actually by your standards I'm Italian-American, and they said "no your White". So then I used that to play a song call "Don't Call Me White". Oh Man they did not get it and the knuckles started cracking.
So Blackace thanks for the American comment sometimes I just don't get why we can't all just be proud Americans.
So Blackace thanks for the American comment sometimes I just don't get why we can't all just be proud Americans.
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sonicfan said:
In the grander scheme of things, yes, but that's not what is usually meant when one uses different terms for ethnic groups. People never go that far into the past to establish ancestry and their identity. They just need an unique culture, a specific geographical location with, in option, some vague physical differences to set themselves apart from other ethnic groups and nationalities.
Instigator said:
That is really my point. Genetically, were are arguing over nothing more significant than eye or hair color. But culturally, these are the things that set us apart. To be honest, a lot, if not most African-Americans, Blacks, or what ever term you want to use, have much more in common with "European Americans" than they do people who acutally live in Africa today.
Escape Goat
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I was listed as "Nicole" in my 7th grade yearbook. Its not like I'd been called that before grades 1-6 so it was no big whoop, i moved after 7th anyways! :lol
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