I think it helps that the characters are actually well developed in the main story instead of leaving most of the characterization in the social links. It's still a shame how isolated the SLs are, though.
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I think it helps that the characters are actually well developed in the main story instead of leaving most of the characterization in the social links. It's still a shame how isolated the SLs are, though.
Yeah it's great, I'm so sad that the game is over and can see myself doing another playthrough as early as next month.
I had her charge up the party on a boss fight right after we buffed up and debilitated the boss. It was glorious.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Oh, and to add to the HUGE ENDGAME SPOILERS in my previous post,
I really love the Persona Team's insistence on making their themes reflect in basically every part of game design. It's like damn good writing, except in mechanics format.
I love that the theme of breaking free of things oppressive or rigged against you carries through into the goddamn Velvet Room, of all things. It was always this safe space for the protagonist before, but now it's harsh and cruel, and then you find out that even the Velvet Room was rigged against you and you set it to rights. So it feels like the theme of this game was applied even more thoroughly than in 3 or 4.
I really love the Persona Team's insistence on making their themes reflect in basically every part of game design. It's like damn good writing, except in mechanics format.
Palace 5:
Oh, what do ya know? The airlocks reset when you backtrack to save. Because of course you would, because you need to make sure you don't lose progress when you trigger whatever that exclamation mark is. Wait, that exclamation mark is just an elevator that leads to another safe room? God. Damnit.
RPGCrazied
Member
It gets worse.
Actually not a bad idea.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
Second palace boss on hard:
While I liked the idea, totally not a fan of the execution. Randomly spamming elements at your party has always been an awful Persona boss design. There's no way you can reasonably defend yourself against it. I liked that you had to prioritize and kill the separate pieces, BUT the game is horribly opaque about the mechanics of it all. I didn't know until luckily hitting the correct Rampages that the revival of the pieces took a boss turn and could only be done once per turn. Until I happened to learn that by chance, I was struggling to get all 4 pieces low to kill within one party turn.
MetalGearOnlineK
Member
I'm at 8/29:
About 51 hours in, Social Stats are 4 in everything except for Kindness which I feel like must be super close at this point, and I have 4 Confidants maxed (Lovers, Chariot, Death, Sun.) I feel like I have a pretty good shot at maxing all Confidants in my first play through which would be nice.
Also the thread title took me a second but I love it haha.
I've grown to love Yusuke so much, I find so much of what he does to be so funny. Creeping around at the beach in a hoody and using his fingers to frame random things.
About 51 hours in, Social Stats are 4 in everything except for Kindness which I feel like must be super close at this point, and I have 4 Confidants maxed (Lovers, Chariot, Death, Sun.) I feel like I have a pretty good shot at maxing all Confidants in my first play through which would be nice.
Also the thread title took me a second but I love it haha.
mrmickfran
Member
Sojiro has the same voice as the narrator from Catherine.
It would've been great if he read the coffee trivia in his voice.
It would've been great if he read the coffee trivia in his voice.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
Most of the confidant storylines are pretty subpar in this game. Persona 3 really had the best one's - Hermit, Gourmet, Dying man, and Tanka were all amazing
Yes.
Thanks!
Ranking the Gourmet King as an 'amazing' S. Link invalidates everything.
You can also check the rail map and it will tell you straight out if your confidant level will rank up.
I figured out using that move with Ryuji would trivialize the boss fight on my second attempt
fused a persona with it and got it next attempt.So far the first two bosses have been great IMO. They feel a little less like sponges than prior games too.
Also, amazing OT title lol
ASilentProtagonist
Member
I just found him hilarious lmao
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Personally found the confidants to be a definite improvement over 4, maybe reaching on par with 3.
darkmark1987
Member
Any tips on raising knowledge etc, eg knowledge is the library or the diner better for revision? For charm is just taking a bath best?
Also are people focusing on one stat then raising another, eg max knowledge then charm? So far I raise each up a level focusing them each in turn. However really want to maximise the stat increases whilst ensuring plenty of time ff or confidante, I definitely won't max all confidante on this playthrough however is it feasible for all party members, and a couple of others?
Also are people focusing on one stat then raising another, eg max knowledge then charm? So far I raise each up a level focusing them each in turn. However really want to maximise the stat increases whilst ensuring plenty of time ff or confidante, I definitely won't max all confidante on this playthrough however is it feasible for all party members, and a couple of others?
But 4 was already better than 3.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Eh, mostly a step down.
Outside of select few party member I can't remember much of 4's SL while some of 3's are still pretty memorable even outside the party.
Outside of select few party member I can't remember much of 4's SL while some of 3's are still pretty memorable even outside the party.
Diners on rainy day is best for knowledge. Studying at the library is free but unlike the diner you get a +1 stat bonus on Guts/Charm/etc. Worth the money IMO. I don't really necessarily rotate specifically, but some stats need to be higher than others for S.Links so I have Rank 4 Knowledge, Working for Rank 4 Charm, and Guts. Kindness sortof taken a back seat at the moment at 2 but I know that's gonna bite me in the ass sooner or later.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to max all S.Links in your first run, when stats carry over in NG+ you can focus all your time to S.Links.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
Yeah, definitely a step up in design and fun factor overall, but the execution was a little sloppy for this one imo.
Dangansona
Member
Wow I like him even more now. Also is the Thou Art I VA the woman who plays Catherine?
Yeah I think P4 has better party SL but P3 wins in the external characters.
Mustang 00
Member
Last Boss Spoilers:
My last boss sequence was truly a battle to remember.
I'm about to start palace 3 in my new game+ and im steamrolling everything on hard difficulty. No more studying in the diner for me this cycle thank god. Will play merciless on my third play through hoping to have a full arsene build run or
as I did a full izanagi run in p4g in the hardest difficulty.
My last boss sequence was truly a battle to remember.
I was at the final turn of the last boss battle when he charges up for his most powerful attack which would've wiped out everyone. My backup party is already in their last legs. I was not prepared for the last dungeon.I didnt stock up on healing items. I have already used up all my SP healing items and I am struggling with almost no more ways of healing. Yaldabaoth uses his final attack and then as a last attempt at fighting back, Futaba uses Final Guard. MC then proceeds to use swift strike (my strongest skill) and the world was saved. Holy Shit I was sobbing throughout the ending sequence.
I'm about to start palace 3 in my new game+ and im steamrolling everything on hard difficulty. No more studying in the diner for me this cycle thank god. Will play merciless on my third play through hoping to have a full arsene build run or
Satanael
OniBarubary
Banned
Alright, so I'm debating just making a ton of ultimate Persona and strutting through the rest of the game. Since I've been beating palaces in one day this whole time and Mementos runs and whatnot, I feel like I gave myself a pretty healthy challenge by having relatively low levels and evening it out with the XP Boost from large Arcana Confidant stuff.
But with the benefit of Strength 10, I am so tempted to just take my Level 55 ass and make Level 80 Personas and just steamroll Palace 7. Unsure how to approach this.
But with the benefit of Strength 10, I am so tempted to just take my Level 55 ass and make Level 80 Personas and just steamroll Palace 7. Unsure how to approach this.
witchedwiz
Member
so uhm...
finished the first palace..
I confirm my impression, the game is really glorious..
BUT...
with the removal of sp refilling option in dungeon and the scarcity of sp items, heck..
Since I'm trying to do a full//semi-full completionist first run, I'm doing a lot of save//reload to plan the events...
But no matter what, in order to finish the first palace in one visit, I had to downgrade the difficulty of the game to normal.. And even then, I finished the palace @level 9... It was brutal..
Oh well, happy that it's difficult, but literally with so little option to charge sp, I'm better off with a physical attacker party and just use two char (mc + X) as mana battery with dia.. unless things change dramatically as stuff goes on I'll definitely drop
..
we'll see :X
finished the first palace..
I confirm my impression, the game is really glorious..
BUT...
with the removal of sp refilling option in dungeon and the scarcity of sp items, heck..
Since I'm trying to do a full//semi-full completionist first run, I'm doing a lot of save//reload to plan the events...
But no matter what, in order to finish the first palace in one visit, I had to downgrade the difficulty of the game to normal.. And even then, I finished the palace @level 9... It was brutal..
Oh well, happy that it's difficult, but literally with so little option to charge sp, I'm better off with a physical attacker party and just use two char (mc + X) as mana battery with dia.. unless things change dramatically as stuff goes on I'll definitely drop
morgana or tamaki... takami phys damage is too low, so unless she has the mp to sustain her casting, her party slot seems a waste..
we'll see :X
Personally I was a huge fan of P2 and P3, and felt P4 was a huge step back in terms of characters and setting because I don't really relate to a country bumpkin setting and I honestly don't care to. The more laid back school setting and the scooby doo detective stuff wasn't the hook I needed from Persona and that along with my old BC PS3 dying and taking all the saves with it back then basically soured me on progressing in the game. Later I got it again on Vita and played like 10-20 hours but got distracted by something else.
I'll say P5 is a huge improvement as it returns to the urban setting with lots of dark edgy shit. Lol.
I'll say P5 is a huge improvement as it returns to the urban setting with lots of dark edgy shit. Lol.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Oh yeah, forgot about dojima/nanoko, those were the only ones I remember outside of select party members from 4.
Laura Bailey? No.
mrmickfran
Member
Doubtful. Catherine was voiced by Laura Bailey. She doesn't really do voice work on games like these anymore.
Though, Kawakami has the voice as Katherine
I really liked the Dojima/Nanako set up in P4. In fact, that was probably the one thing I appreciated from the game. You were actually in a family setting that didn't feel oppressive or fucked up. It was refreshing. The rest though, no thanks.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Dude, do the doctor SLink. SP management is a joke in this game and it's honestly super easy. I do zero grinding and I'm bruteforcing through with gun and physical skills.
Stead Fast
Banned
Knowledge will come to you in the most frequent places, as long as you study early, you'll find just answering questions in school will help with boosting that with the occasional few sessions of studying.
As for charm, the bath house helps, but I got most of mine through the Sun and Devil confidants, the former being unlockable fairly early too. Just hang with these two every other evening.
Edit:
Seconded. This game lets you handle SP in a far more reasonable way than any of it's predecessors, as long as you're chasing S.Links much of the combat and dungeon chores fix themselves.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Sojiro/
futaba
Sojiro is a total bro.
I wouldn't say it's reasonable, more unreasonable in how much of a non-factor it turns SP management into.
Can't complain though. Just more time to do the fun stuff.
TheMrPliskin
Member
P4 had the greatest S.link, the one where you insult a child.
Stead Fast
Banned
Cannot for the life of me find a pic since this game is still new in English, but I distinctly remember a dialogue option during a confidant (Ryuji I think) simply being: "...what a dick." Any game where that is an option is a winner in my eyes.
Now I remember why I didn't get this kid past rank 1. Little shit.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Haru: Triple down, one shot kill
MC: Triple down, one shot kill.
Morg: Heal peeps.
Done, dusted.
Mustang 00
Member
yup this is true. Especially how getting closer to nanako and dojima impacts the story later on. daisuke and kou are my bros though.
confidant story spoilers:
I really like how most non party confidants has a mementos request at level 8. How much changing the hearts of those oppressing them affects their story so that they can move forward. It felt in line with the goals of the phantom thieves. It really helped making you feel like you made an impact for these characters. Them revealing that they figured out you are a phantom thief is just icing on the cake.
P5 needs this. I need to insult Mishima. That or the ability to slap him.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Yeah, some scenes are quite sketchy considering we're dealing with high schoolers.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
I beat the fourth palace yesterday and I have like one item. If it happens, it must be late game.