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Pistorius sentenced to 6 years in prison for murder of Reeva Steenkamp
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TheRedSnifit
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Finally.
ProfessorLobo
Banned
I'm trying to read about evidence but there doesn't seem to be a lot.
He didn't murder her really, he's just a moron, right?
He didn't murder her really, he's just a moron, right?
I don't think they established motive, really, so who knows?
He shot into the bathroom knowing this would likely killing the person in there.
And, let's be honest, he knew it was her in there. Or did he manage to get out of bed without realising that she wasn't in there, then didn't check it was her in the bathroom first?
He knew what he was doing.
Irrespective of whether he intended to murder Reeva Steenkamp, he still intended to kill whoever he believed to be in his bathroom. You don't get avoid punishment for murder just because you claim you killed the wrong person.
I can't really remember, but wasn't there evidence during the original trial suggesting he was pretty abusive?
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
It's not long enough. Makes the whole process look like a farce if the correct sentence isn't applied.
6 years is absolutely absurd. He murdered her. He had a history of abuse and anger, he knew she was in there.
Better than nothing, I guess, but the idea that he mistook her for a fucking intruder or something was always the most insane shit in the world. Dude should be spending the rest of his life in prison.
Better than nothing, I guess, but the idea that he mistook her for a fucking intruder or something was always the most insane shit in the world. Dude should be spending the rest of his life in prison.
jellies_two
Member
yeah there was evidence from neighbors they heard a screaming row late at night before the shots. He lost his temper and shot her through the door, after she took refuge there. They can't really prove that beyond reasonable doubt, but six years sounds very low, two years with good behaviour? Her family must be majorly upset with the verdict. I see on BBC news that an appeal by state is likely.
Doomshroom
Member
Lets just hope he gets to go to a real prison and not buy his way out of this.
3 years he will be eligible for parole.
Don Draper's Hat
Member
It's amazing what you can get away with being a rich white man in this world.
That judge was a joke. She should have been nowhere near this whole thing after sentencing him to just 5 years before. She came across as some teenage fan girl.
That judge was a joke. She should have been nowhere near this whole thing after sentencing him to just 5 years before. She came across as some teenage fan girl.
Nemesis121
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That sentence is a disgrace, he probably serve 3 years..
Don Draper's Hat
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Monochromaticx
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What a joke
Yesssssssssss.
Oh well fuck that, then
Regardless of how exactly it went down (ie whether murder or manslaughter), he took a gun and shot through a door into a small room she was in - with no logical reason to think there would be anyone in there but her. (He says he thought there was an intruder in the house but the reasoning held no water at all.)
So he took a deadly weapon and fired at a door to get to his girlfriend, who evidently locked herself in there for a reason.
He can rot in jail.
Oh well fuck that, then
Regardless of how exactly it went down (ie whether murder or manslaughter), he took a gun and shot through a door into a small room she was in - with no logical reason to think there would be anyone in there but her. (He says he thought there was an intruder in the house but the reasoning held no water at all.)
So he took a deadly weapon and fired at a door to get to his girlfriend, who evidently locked herself in there for a reason.
He can rot in jail.
For a while.
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whenever i hear a strange noise in the house, I always crawl across the room and fire 20 rounds into the wall before saying 'honey do you hear something?!'
Maybe even just 2 years since he was locked up for one already more or less. Joke sentence.
What? He's going to be out in 3 at most. It's almost impossible to get less than that for murder, the judge is a fucking disgrace.
Just another example of a rich white famous guy dodging justice.
There is something odd about the sentence, and the judge handing it down.
For one thing, she already messed up the original trial - hence why it was reclassified as murder, and her verdict overruled.
Why was she then put in charge of sentencing given her original trial was shown to be wrong?
It seems like, for whatever reason, she is determined to give him the benefit of the doubt and the minimum sentence possible.
For one thing, she already messed up the original trial - hence why it was reclassified as murder, and her verdict overruled.
Why was she then put in charge of sentencing given her original trial was shown to be wrong?
It seems like, for whatever reason, she is determined to give him the benefit of the doubt and the minimum sentence possible.
Aztechnology
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coughlanio
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Seems like he's not going to appeal. Think that's a given seeing as he pretty much got the minimum sentence.
Even if he did, he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Even if he did, he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Sad Affleck
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6 years for murdering a human being? That's absurd.
Ragnar Blackmane
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In Germany that would have been 10+ years easily, up to 16 years. Murder is murder.
Not a fan of American style-"you gonna stay in prison till you die of old age" life long sentences (waste of prison space and a huge tax payer bill just for life support and IMO everyone besides the most extreme cases deserves a second chance... eventually), but this sentence is an utter joke.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Not to mention how much of a coward he was with her.
This scumbag should rot in jail
darkwing-buck
Member
6 years seems short for murdering another. Anyone know why he killed her?
Sad Affleck
Member
Yeah that's the worst part. It honestly makes my stomach turn that taking a life carries such a small actual sentence. It's just disgusting and an insult to both the dead person's memory and the surviving members of her family. Despicable.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
eh i think it's a bit too short. he'll be out by the time he's 35. i believe if you take someones life then you give up your own. should be locked up until you die.
WadiumArcadium
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So it's going to be less than six years for murder. What a joke.
Hurricane_Chris
DDK
I always find these threads curious. What purpose would a longer sentence serve? It won't bring her back. Prison shouldn't be about punishment, it should be for rehab.
I wonder what would happen if locking someone up wasn't the only option we had... What if:
1. If we had the technology to change a person to remove the ability to perform the act that was in violation of the law. A sort of mental castration that would remove one's ability to murder, rape, steal, etc. Would you guys be OK with forcing the procedure and removing a bit of free will with no jail time attached?
2. If we had the technology to alter a criminals state of mind so that the criminals perception of time is dialated, say to a maximum sentence of say 1000 years subjective time. And let's say that was actually an hour or so in real time. Would you be OK with that sort of sentence.
3. If we created a global and benign AI and gave it the ability to surveil us all at times and intervene just before the moment we break the law of our society, would you be OK with that?
4. If we discovered a way to predict people with an 85% chance of committing a felony of any sort, but not 100% and no idea when it would happen, would you be OK with preemptively removing them from the gene pool before they can do harm. If you do not approve of killing them for something they may or may not do, let's say he has Matrix-like technology. Would you be OK with imprisoning them I'm a VR simulation without their knowledge and letting them live subjectively free, but cordoned off from the real world for their whole lives?
I wonder what would happen if locking someone up wasn't the only option we had... What if:
1. If we had the technology to change a person to remove the ability to perform the act that was in violation of the law. A sort of mental castration that would remove one's ability to murder, rape, steal, etc. Would you guys be OK with forcing the procedure and removing a bit of free will with no jail time attached?
2. If we had the technology to alter a criminals state of mind so that the criminals perception of time is dialated, say to a maximum sentence of say 1000 years subjective time. And let's say that was actually an hour or so in real time. Would you be OK with that sort of sentence.
3. If we created a global and benign AI and gave it the ability to surveil us all at times and intervene just before the moment we break the law of our society, would you be OK with that?
4. If we discovered a way to predict people with an 85% chance of committing a felony of any sort, but not 100% and no idea when it would happen, would you be OK with preemptively removing them from the gene pool before they can do harm. If you do not approve of killing them for something they may or may not do, let's say he has Matrix-like technology. Would you be OK with imprisoning them I'm a VR simulation without their knowledge and letting them live subjectively free, but cordoned off from the real world for their whole lives?
Hes going to appeal and they will probably reduce it further
Maybe even just a few months/years of house arrest
The South African justice system is a joke
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Woah, what's going on here?
Pretty low sentence for quite the clear-cut murder case. His story is so dumb it's almost comical and even if it was true, it'd hardly be a case of self-defense.
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