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"Plane passenger almost lost leg after flesh-eating spider bite"

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lmost-lost-leg-after-flesh-eating-spider-bite

A barrister on the trip of a lifetime almost lost his leg after being bitten by a spider.


Doctors told Jonathon Hogg he could have died after he was believed to have been bitten by a poisonous brown recluse spider on a flight from Qatar to South Africa.

Within hours, the 40-year-old’s leg had ballooned and turned black; by the time he reached hospital it was “bursting open”.

Hogg, from Camden, north London, said: “The pain was like nothing I’ve been through in my life. By the time I got to hospital my leg was bursting open, there was pus, it was black.

“It was a right mess. They told me if I had been any later I would have lost my leg or even died. It was terrifying.”

Doctors rushed him into surgery and cut away a large part of his leg where the venom had eaten the flesh, but what was left “resembled something from a horror film”.

Hogg spent a month in hospital in South Africa, undergoing three operations and a skin graft, but three months on is still receiving medical treatment.

The keen footballer and kickboxer is now terrified of flying and fears he will never play sport again.

Hogg had taken five months off work and worked at an orangutan sanctuary in Borneo before travelling to South Africa in June to dive with sharks when his ordeal began.

Six hours into a flight from Doha to Cape Town he felt a pain in his leg before spotting a spider running across the floor. He said: “I was struggling to get comfortable during the journey and crossed my legs to get into a better position when I felt a small, sharp pain radiating in my left leg.

“I turned on the light and clearly saw a spider running across the floor before hearing two stewardesses screaming ‘Spider’, but I wasn’t sure if I had been bitten as it really wasn’t very painful.”

But his leg swelled up and became bruised so he took painkillers as he thought it might be deep-vein thrombosis. The next day it was worse – and he was surprised when colleagues said it looked like a spider bite and he needed urgent medical attention.

Doctors diagnosed a bite from a brown recluse spider, which is venomous and potentially fatal, and warned him he could have lost his leg or even died if he had not been treated.

After an operation to remove the dead flesh, Hogg was horrified to see the damage to his leg.

He said: “I knew something was wrong but I had no idea how bad it was until I spoke with the surgeon. When he told me how close I had come to losing my leg I was stunned.

“It really hit home when they removed the bandages and I saw what was left of my leg – it resembled something from a horror film. They had been forced to cut away so much, I was devastated.

“However, when I realised the extent of my injuries I realised I was just lucky to still have my leg – even if the sight of my leg shocked me when I finally saw it.”

Hogg has been told he may need another operation after learning that the skin graft has not taken. He is contemplating legal action against the airline, Qatar Airways, which he says has refused to accept responsibility.

He said: “They have made no attempt to resolve the issue and have basically said it was nothing to do with them. All this has left me very traumatised but determined to seek justice. No one should have to go through what I have and if the airline has made a mistake it should take responsibility.”

Richard Duxbury, from law firm Slater and Gordon, representing Hogg, said: “Mr Hogg has suffered a harrowing experience after he was bitten by a very venomous spider. This situation could have been far worse, with Mr Hogg narrowly avoiding losing his leg and perhaps even his life.

“Airlines have a responsibility to protect passengers from dangerous potential pests by properly fumigating all planes. We will now be investigating Mr Hogg’s claim to determine if there has been any wrongdoing by the airline.”

Qatar Airways said it was not aware of any legal action over the incident.

A spokeswoman said: “The only known interaction between the airline and Mr Hogg regarding this incident, which he claims happened on a Qatar Airways aircraft in June, was via our website a week after his travel was complete. No report was filed with any staff on board regarding this incident.

“We have also not been advised of any legal proceedings regarding this incident. In the circumstances we cannot comment further but will, of course, investigate any further information which is brought to our attention formally. Qatar Airways takes the safety and security of our customers very seriously.”

I'm tired of these mother fucking spiders on this mother fucking plane!
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
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Guevara

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English George Constanza: takes off 5 months, ends up spending them recovering from a spider bite. Summer of George!
 
My dad got but by a brown recluse. They had to remove a "cylinder" of ass cheek material he told me over breakfast. The spider was in some old painter's pants he had stored away.
 
Brown recluse is like the spider of Florida. Right where I live.

Fuck.

I live in Florida, and thankfully I haven't seen any BR spiders yet. The biggest spider I saw may have been a HUGE wolf spider hovering outside the corner of my APT door. I was SCARED. I eventually had to take my dog out, so I grabbed my airsoft gun, slowly opened the door while going all Jack Bauer pose. didn't see it again. Unfortunately the airsoft gun probably wouldn't have done any damage to the demon.
 

ponpo

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Qatar to South Africa? Doesn't it only live in the US?

Anyway poor guy but this seems rare. I know Brown Recluses are an internet meme with regards to the damage they do, but like every other medical issue you look up online, where you can only seem to find the worst cases, I'm convinced that only a limited number of bites turn into full blown body dissolving necrosis.
 

Fishlake

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I live in Florida, and thankfully I haven't seen any BR spiders yet. The biggest spider I saw may have been a HUGE wolf spider hovering outside the corner of my APT door. I was SCARED. I eventually had to take my dog out, so I grabbed my airsoft gun, slowly opened the door while going all Jack Bauer pose. didn't see it again. Unfortunately the airsoft gun probably wouldn't have done any damage to the demon.

Brown Recluse do not grow larger than an inch. They are puny.

I'm tempted to post some pictures of what the bites look like but I think it may be too gross for here.
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
So... Did they find and kill the spider? I mean if it ran away it could bite any other passenger.
 
I live in Florida, and thankfully I haven't seen any BR spiders yet. The biggest spider I saw may have been a HUGE wolf spider hovering outside the corner of my APT door. I was SCARED. I eventually had to take my dog out, so I grabbed my airsoft gun, slowly opened the door while going all Jack Bauer pose. didn't see it again. Unfortunately the airsoft gun probably wouldn't have done any damage to the demon.
Yea depends on where you live. I live in Oviedo, lots of forest around, I've seen quite a few in my garage. My cats kill them instantly but it doesn't make me feel any better, especially with a ~2 year old :(

If it makes you feel better, this house is around the corner from us.
Hell that's fine if they're harmless, I'm not scared of spiders really, used to have a pet tarantula when I was a teen, but I got a family, shit like Brown Recluses make me nervous.
 

XenodudeX

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Brown Recluse spiders are nothing to be fucked with. Just google brown recluse spider bite and you'll see why.
 
im having trouble understanding how he didnt connect all these symptoms to the fucking spider earlier, i check for spider bites because of any weird pains i feel all the time
 

ponpo

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I actually want to see it

Google Image search "brown recluse bite" at your own peril.

Brown Recluse spiders are nothing to be fucked with. Just google brown recluse spider bite and you'll see why.

"According to The Integrated Pest Management Program at UC Berkeley, 90 percent of bites heal without medical attention or scarring."

Not every bite will be as gross as the photos #VenomDefenseForce
 

Memory

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It sucks but the Airline can't be held accountable as there is no way to prove the spider was not already on the guy before he boarded the plane. The airline could at least help him with some medical costs as a goodwill gesture though.

Hope he recovers and learns to live with the unfortunate condition of his leg, i'm sure he is happy it wasn't worse and he is still alive.
 

Toxi

Banned
Brown Recluse bites are horrifying. I think it is worse than being straight deadly. Your flesh "melts".
Just a note: This is not common to recluse bites. Only 1 in 10 cases turn necrotic.

But God, it really is ugly when that happens.
 

Toxi

Banned
Google Image search "brown recluse bite" at your own peril.

Brown Recluse spiders are nothing to be fucked with. Just google brown recluse spider bite and you'll see why.
A lot of those pictures are not actually proven to be spider bites, such as the famous one with the guy's hand. There are a lot of things that can cause necrosis similar to a brown recluse's venom to the point that misdiagnosis is common outside the spider's range, and unless you see the spider (as they did in this instance) it's unlikely the cause is a recluse.
 
For most people this won't happen. Its almost to those who have an allergic reaction to the bite in which necrosis happens.

If you live in areas where there are recluses, you probably got bit by one and mistook it for another spider bite.
 

Fishlake

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Just a note: This is not common to recluse bites. Only 1 in 10 cases turn necrotic.

But God, it really is ugly when that happens.

I didn't actually know that. I love insects and arachnids but got scared off at a picture from the Brown Recluse bite. I'm glad it only happens in you are allergic.
 

yuna55

Member
Hell that's fine if they're harmless, I'm not scared of spiders really, used to have a pet tarantula when I was a teen, but I got a family, shit like Brown Recluses make me nervous.

Just to be clear, the house had roughly 6,000 brown recluse spiders.

Most people never know they even have brown recluse spiders because they really are recluses. These were literally falling from the ceiling and pouring out the walls.
 
Here in Savannah Georgia we have those AND Black Widows. It's like a mini Australia.
Oh we got plenty of Black Widows in Florida. Almost got bit by one when I was a whippersnapper out in the boonies in Pensacola (FL). Georgia/Florida share similar wildlife.
Just to be clear, the house had roughly 6,000 brown recluse spiders.

Most people never know they even have brown recluse spiders because they really are recluses. These were literally falling from the ceiling and pouring out the walls.
Jesus Christ
 

Amentallica

Unconfirmed Member
Sorry about his leg and all, but if I read correctly, then he's an asshole if he thinks the airline is responsible for a fucking spider bite.
 
I know someone who got bit by a brown recluse and barely survived. Similar story to this too in the sense his leg was saved but it was literally melting away.
 

Wilsongt

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That's gotta be scary as hell, especially when other passengers on a plane can witness it.

Also, British?

I bet his bill cost less than a cup of starbucks coffee.
 
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