OldJadedGamer
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You cannot be charged $4 a month, that is impossible. You pay $17 or $50 to access the service.
PlayStation Plus Thread: Plus What? PLUS EVERYTHING!
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You cannot be charged $4 a month, that is impossible. You pay $17 or $50 to access the service.
If that's how you look at it then, yeah, I can understand your issues with assessing value.
On a personal level, I don't care if other people bought it. All I know is that of the games released so far I already own Lara Croft, Outland, Darksiders, Space Marine, Virtua Fighter, Deus Ex and Dead Space 2.
It's great value for those who don't own this stuff, but man, it really sucks for me.
They could start by giving us Uncharted 1 for free sometime. It's 5 years old and cheap and still much better than cheapy PSN titles I'll never bother downloading.
Damn that's some bad luck. But you'll be getting 2 new retail games in 2 days time and at least there was Motostorm, Infamous2, LBP2 and SR2 for you to enjoy. (I actually sell the games I own and are on plus cause I know I'll be subscribing to the service for at least the next 2-3 years)
corrosivefrost
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Even if I've already played and beaten a game, a digital version of a retail game I own(ed) is of more value to me than a free copy of a digital game I already own.
In this vein, I'm extremely jealous of EU PS+ people.
Add in the Vita and PSP sales they get? Makes me wonder if I should have just created an EU account and bought everything there instead.
In this vein, I'm extremely jealous of EU PS+ people.
Add in the Vita and PSP sales they get? Makes me wonder if I should have just created an EU account and bought everything there instead.
Yeah, that's all it is. I think PS Plus as a concept is terrific, and much more worthwhile than the absolute nothing that XBL Gold offers (Beyond the Live service. Which should absolutely not be £40).
Unfortunately, if the next games are Just Cause and Borderlands, I own those too.
It's bizarre, because I only own 30 - 40 games. The odds of them choosing this many that I have is incredibly slim, yet here we are.
EDIT: As a side-note, I tweeted Ross from Sony about it (Politely, obviously), and he said he's aware that it's an issue. So I'm wondering if down the line there'll be a selection of games that we can pick from. That would be nice.
I think day one pen games are on the table. Also I think the reason why you own so many of the titles offered is because they're going on a strict 80+ meta critic ranking so that narrows the title selection.
AgentChris
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I just upgraded my HDD and when I check my Cloud Saves they wouldn't show up. Just says 159kb / 150mb with none of my saves... What can I do?
Indeed, those retail games can also be gotten really cheap while the PSN games are still full price. You're getting more value for your money with PSN games.
blackMamba1187
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This happened to me. I think I just installed a random game (simpsons arcade), saved quickly. Exited, and then tried to upload my save. I think this will resync it. I used simpsons because I didn't care if the save was ruined.
AgentChris
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll try this very soon <3
graywolf323
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some of us would rather have a digital copy than retail
Per month or per year, I don't think that you in particular have much to complain about in any value breakdowns, chief.
saveweyard
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I've been wanting to buy the new BloodRayne game for a long time now. Glad I held off til now.
Canis lupus
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You got 1 year sub for less than 15 bucks, how?
1 Gig Cloud storage, Red Dead, and Vita content just got announced.
Plus keeps getting better.
Juuust beat me.
Plus keeps getting better.
Juuust beat me.
Speedymanic
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I already own RDR for PSN. Don't release it for US please.
I've already played it, but hell at least it's a retail game that's pretty well received.
Speedymanic
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I understand the frustration, but don't give up hope, SCEA will surely have something better lined up for September.
Speedymanic
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Aren't you worried about these rentals not crossing over to PS4? Selling your physical copy in favor of a rental makes no sense to me, especially as there's no guarantee if they'll be accessible on PS4.
There's not a guarantee that the PS4 will be backwards compatible either.
Speedymanic
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Why wouldn't it be? PS2 had BC, PS3 had BC (at least the first models did), so why wouldn't the first gen model PS4 not be BC?
The_Hitcher89
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Would anyone else prefer it if Sony put up more games with good reputations and low sales? More Motorstorms, less RDRs
I'm guessing that a large percentage of the people who have enough interest to bother with PS+ are the same people who have already played the games they're putting up, in the EU at least.
Don't wanna sound like I'm whinging about the fact taht we're getting bigger games, but the more RDRs and Dead Spaces we get, the lower value I'm getting from the service
I'm guessing that a large percentage of the people who have enough interest to bother with PS+ are the same people who have already played the games they're putting up, in the EU at least.
Don't wanna sound like I'm whinging about the fact taht we're getting bigger games, but the more RDRs and Dead Spaces we get, the lower value I'm getting from the service
DigitalDevil
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Is the 1g cloud storage eu only? If so, fuck scea...
What I paid has nothing to do with his logic. Also I can whine about anything I want
isn't it pretty much a forgone conclusion that ps4 won't play ps3 games period?
All I'm saying is that there is no guarantee it will have BC. PS3 got it removed very quickly (Europe never got BC). Vita has really half-assed BC (no transfer program for UMD -> digital in the west). For Sony, it might be just another unnecessary cost.
Because now Sony most likely will use X86 instead of powerPC.
A-Dark-Injection
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Actually, the PS3 phat in Europe also had BC
Ravensmash
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I have RDR on the 360, but I never finished it or got that far in it (and a friend ruined the fucking ending I think).
I'll give it another go on PS3 :>
Wasn't EU meant to be getting two new games this week? Or is that tomorrow?
I'll give it another go on PS3 :>
Wasn't EU meant to be getting two new games this week? Or is that tomorrow?
I was under the impression that the PS3 phat that Europe got had very limited BC. Could it play all games?
Well, the Vita Plus isn't already on top of your existing subscription, from my understanding. You have to buy the Vita Plus separately, for the same price as the PS+, which I don't think makes sense.
As much I defend Plus, and the Vita against ridiculous claims of how weak the console is in terms of content, I'm not sure the Vita has been around long enough to have enough back-content to offer people via Plus. And for the future, the Vita is seeming to be more and more poised as an addition to the PS3 experience, and not its own.
That being said, as soon as I see a month for Vita that seems worth it to me, I'll hop on board, because Plus has been so good thus far.
Ein Bear
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I don't think it was ALL games, but compatability was very high. I never found anything mine couldn't run.
Z_Y
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I see, I never had one of the early models.
Considering I just sold the disc version of Red Dead, I wasn't really concerned about playing it on PS4.
I can only look at potentially getting the game on Plus as a beneficial thing. It's probably as likely for the blu ray version and downloadable versions to not carry over, but considering how Sony is attacking used sales... I bet the digital one is more likely.
Source? I already have bought Vita games at a Plus discount and currently have several free* Plus minis on my Vita, so I question the Vita specific premium.
I don't believe that at all, Why wouldn't the Vita Plus be on the same subscription as regular PS+? Do you have any links or anything talking about that?
Alright, now I'm starting to get a little peeved.
Ravensmash
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It's clear that SCEA have a different strategy compared to SCEE - I think the EU guy said that himself.
Best way to vote is with your wallets guys, if they see a massive drop off after the initial 3 months is up (which I presume will happen in NA) then surely Sony will pay more attention to what's happening with the NA +
No source, guys, it was just my understanding from listening to the conference. Hope I'm wrong, but I kinda doubt it...
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