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[ScrabbleBanshee]

good god gamers are impatient...:lol

Yes. And no... see, I work in IT. I'm a software developer. If something like this happened in our business and we had even one customer that was getting stuck the red alert would be sounding continuously, the shit would be hitting the fan, and I wouldn't get to rest until things got fixed.

I guess that's why it's bothering me so much. Who knows, maybe some poor soul like me has been feverishly trying to fix it for the last 16 hours but somehow I doubt it.

 

[Revolutionary]

good god gamers are impatient...:lol

Well, personally, I've received a grand total of 0 games from PS+ that I didn't already own, up until this one.

...and guess what? It won't even fucking download. I have every reason and right to be impatient and pissed off with PS+ at this point, when they said yesterday that a solution would be provided "shortly". 18 hours+ does not fall under "shortly" by any stretch of the imagination.

I think I'm more angry at the fact that they're maintaining complete silence about it, and haven't given us any updates to their progress aside from what they wrote yesterday (which wasn't any progress at all, really - just that they were aware of the issue).

 

[distrbnce]

Yes. And no... see, I work in IT. I'm a software developer. If something like this happened in our business and we had even one customer that was getting stuck the red alert would be sounding continuously, the shit would be hitting the fan, and I wouldn't get to rest until things got fixed.
I guess that's why it's bothering me so much. Who knows, maybe some poor soul like me has been feverishly trying to fix it for the last 16 hours but somehow I doubt it.

I'm a business analyst, so I know sometimes things don't go as smoothly as they should. I guess we're just looking on from different ends of shit river.

Well, personally, I've received a grand total of 0 games from PS+ that I didn't already own, up until this one.
...and guess what? It won't even fucking download. I have every reason and right to be impatient and pissed off with PS+ at this point, when they said yesterday that a solution would be provided "shortly". 18 hours+ does not fall under "shortly" by any stretch of the imagination.
I think I'm more angry at the fact that they're maintaining complete silence about it, and haven't given us any updates to their progress aside from what they wrote yesterday (which wasn't any progress at all, really - just that they were aware of the issue).

You kind of lost the right to be pissed off when you agreed to the terms of service, and the gamble that Plus is anyway. Sometimes it takes longer to provide an explanation than to keep working on it. Especially when you don't have any new information to give. Shit happens, and jeeze, this is pretty petty. I think you guys should listen to the Beatles while you wait.

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

Well, personally, I've received a grand total of 0 games from PS+ that I didn't already own, up until this one.

...and guess what? It won't even fucking download. I have every reason and right to be impatient and pissed off with PS+ at this point, when they said yesterday that a solution would be provided "shortly". 18 hours+ does not fall under "shortly" by any stretch of the imagination.

I think I'm more angry at the fact that they're maintaining complete silence about it, and haven't given us any updates to their progress aside from what they wrote yesterday (which wasn't any progress at all, really - just that they were aware of the issue).

Don't worry the raging on the blog will boil over to typical epic proportions soon. I'm not really sure what the problem is with the blog, they are so non responsive. It's extra bad when people are raging for some kind of simple feedback on there and they ignore it and continue to put up new posts about dumb inconsequential shit.

I think all it would take to keep people placated is to post simple updates that they are still working on the problem, even if there is nothing new to tell you. A simple tap on the shoulder to say we haven't forgotten about you and we're sorry for the wait would go a long way instead of going into deep six mode.

 

[jvm]

Re: the blog, I see it simply:

SCEA: The blog is a direct-to-consumer advertising platform.

SCEE: The blog is a direct-to-consumer communication platform.

Does the SCEE blog even have a discussion thread every Friday or something? AFAIK, nothing like that happens on SCEA's blog. Of course there is that whole "share your ideas with us" crap.

 

[Carl]

Does the SCEE blog even have a discussion thread every Friday or something? AFAIK, nothing like that happens on SCEA's blog. Of course there is that whole "share your ideas with us" crap.

Sort of. James puts up a topic of debate like "Violence in games" or "the effect a demo has on your purchasing decision" for people to talk about.

SCEE's blog is brilliant in the amount of replies it gets

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

dang sam & max still won't dl

not a big deal, i have a bunch of games i haven't played, i just hope they fix it before the deadline is up because i'm actually very interested in playing the games!

 

[SolidusDave]

SolidusDave, et al. I got another email from SCEA today, that I want to share with you:
That's precisely the SCEA policy, as far as I can tell. And it appears contrary to what SCEE support has told y'all.

It would be helpful if folks who've lost stuff could try ONE MORE TIME. Perhaps SCEE changed something (and that's why Cigol had a different experience).

Nope, nothing's changed for me.

 

[StealthGoblin]

The SCEE blog is better in almost every single way.

The people posting the article/news almost always reply to comments.

The colour scheme is much more appealing.

There is a greater sense of personality.

The only thing the SCEA team has over the SCEE team is their twitter presence.

 

[Clipper]

Wow, Sam and Max is still causing issues? After reading the stuff here before going home last night, I was worried. However, I didn't have any trouble downloading any of the episodes, so I assumed they must have fixed the problem. This was about 12 hours ago now.

I wonder why it is only messing up for certain people, though. I'm in Australia, so it can't be something based on server load or anything as I usually get hit by that even worse due to the added latency.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

It's hard to tell if you hate shmups or not from the previous post. Yeah, about half are shumps, the rest are puzzle games or fighting game (okay, one fighting game iirc). Monkeypaw games has pretty good descriptions and surprisingly honest reviews. But for what I know:

Gaiaseed: A shmup made for normal people. Not bullet-hell like new ones, not a vicious memorization game like R-Type, just kinda easy thanks to the recharging shields (and rather short). Famous for the soundtrack. Oddly rare though, even after it came out on the PSN in Japan physical copies were still worth $150.

Cho Aniki: Hit youtube. It can't be sufficiently described. Seriously. This version is notable for using digitized photos for a lot of the in-game graphics.

Money Idol Exchanger: Apparently plays a lot like Critter Crunch, even though nobody at Capybara had heard of it. Supposed to be a knockoff of Magical Drop F, which is also available on the import store.

But go to http://monkeypawgames.com/, they have really good descriptions of every game, complete with directions on how to play them. If you buy any of these games, you're probably going to want to go there anyway.

I wasn't sure when it ended and no one was answering me plus they were cheap so I bought them all. :lol And yes I like shmups which swayed me greatly. Only one I've played the one that starts with an S so far and it was good. Thanks for the help. One thing I hate though is it goes from english name to full japanese once installed. :/

 

[Keldor]

I have a question. A couple weeks ago I bought a 2nd PS3 for my Kids and called Sony to ask if it was ok to download some of the PSN games I purchased to it. I was told that you could on up to 5 machines that YOU own. My question is can I download the DC Universe beta onto my kid's machine and will he be able to play since he is not a Plus subscriber?

 

[Fuzzy]

I have a question. A couple weeks ago I bought a 2nd PS3 for my Kids and called Sony to ask if it was ok to download some of the PSN games I purchased to it. I was told that you could on up to 5 machines that YOU own. My question is can I download the DC Universe beta onto my kid's machine and will he be able to play since he is not a Plus subscriber?

Try it and let us know. You'll have no trouble downloading the beta onto the other PS3 once you have your PS+ account on that machine but I have no idea whether the beta makes sure that only PS+ accounts can actually play.

 

[jvm]

Nope, nothing's changed for me.

Ok. Are you up for hitting support again?

 

[Fuzzy]

Saw this on Twitter:

"PlayStation Plus members: Sam & Max not downloading properly? Check your PS3 message box at midnight or so tonight, Pacific Time."

 

[yencid]

going to attatch it?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

going to attatch it?

Sounds like it.

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

Saw this on Twitter:

"PlayStation Plus members: Sam & Max not downloading properly? Check your PS3 message box at midnight or so tonight, Pacific Time."

Yeah I saw that too last night. But, I still haven't gotten anything in my box... and neither has anybody else according to the blog comments. Come on... really, what are they doing over there. Why say 12 AM pacific if they really meant ... who knows when? It's like 5 hours overdue already.

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

My PS3 just shut itself down for automatic download. I've never actually seen this happen... it actually turns OFF for automatic download? I don't get it.

Maybe Sam is coming on automatic.... well, it appears not.

 

[Keldor]

Try it and let us know. You'll have no trouble downloading the beta onto the other PS3 once you have your PS+ account on that machine but I have no idea whether the beta makes sure that only PS+ accounts can actually play.

Doesnt work. When another profile tries to log in, it asks them to enter a code.

 

[jvm]

US PS Blog just did a "PSN Questions Answered" post with some PS+ questions:

PlayStation Plus

Q: Field Runners was in the July 6 and the upcoming December 14 publish. Will content continue to be recycled? – ExPresident (December 1, 2010 post)

A: PlayStation Plus has circulated a lot of great content since the service was launched in June and based on what we think our users want, we’ll look to bring back some of those popular items. This will not affect our goals to bring new experiences and discount options to PlayStation Plus subscribers.

Q: Are there any plans to add a digital rental service to PlayStation Plus? – JacobeAbam (December 1, 2010 post)

A: While we don’t have any news to announce around a digital rental service for PlayStation Plus, our goal is to include a full game trial each month when possible, which allows gamers to try out PS3 titles for up to one full hour. Recently, we’ve launched full game trials for Red Faction Guerrilla, Warhawk, inFamous, God of War I, ll and Prototype, and we’re looking forward to upcoming releases, like Borderlands. And, don’t forget your PlayStation Plus includes access to PSP minis and PSone games as part of your subscription.

Q: Europe received the Fallout 3 DLC and Sam & Max season for free when we receive older titles. When can we expect newer discounted or free content? – Vengeance88 (October 20, 2010 post)

A: Content for PlayStation Plus subscribers differ for each region and that is dependant on a lot of different variables that aren’t always determined by us. Sometimes it’s our publishers that make decisions on how many or where to share certain content and sometimes it’s simply a case of where it makes the most sense for a particular game or feature. Having said that, we’re always looking for ways to extend the content we offer across different regions and hopefully you’ve seen that in some of the recent content that we’ve released, like the December 14th publish that included the upcoming featured download of the Sam & Max: The Devil’s Playhouse season.

Q: When does the free three month promotion end for PlayStation Plus? – eatthemall (PS+ FAQ post)

A: The promotion that currently adds three months to your 12-month subscription is ongoing and users who subscribe to the promotion will now get 15 months of PlayStation Plus for the 12-month cost. If you’re not yet a subscriber, what other promotional offers would help you make the decision to subscribe?

Q: Can we have a progress update on cross game chat and any other features that will be available for PlayStation Plus subscribers? – xKOROSHIYAx (PS+ FAQ post)

A: I don’t have any progress updates to share at this time, but I can tell you that we’re listening to the things you want and whether or not we can release them now, we take all of the features you’ve been asking for seriously.

Further along:

NHL GameCenter

Q: Will the free NHL GameCenter app go away after the PlayStation Plus subscription has ended? – Dagger_32 (November 11, 2010)

A: The app itself won’t disappear from your XMB, but the free access to the app will discontinue once your PlayStation Plus subscription has ended and you will need to purchase it. As with all of the other content offered through PlayStation Plus, only subscribers will have access to the exclusive, free or discounted offers within PlayStation Plus, which includes the NHL GameCenter app being free to subscribers.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

i still can't download sam & max. what the fuck?

 

[Snuggles]

I downloaded Sam and Max, and maybe I'm weird, but I don't really like any thing about it. It's nice that I got them for free, but it's not like I'm gonna play them.

Anyways, Plus seems to have some value. Getting discounts on games like Dead Nation was the best thing about it, since it was new and something I wanted AND I don't lose it. Still, I gave it a shot with a 3 month sub and I don't think I'm going to renew. I've got quite a few games from it, mostly minis, but it's mostly stuff that I don't have the time or desire to play. It doesn't do enough to improve my 'Playstation Experience', so I'll probably let it run out while I don't have much content to lose.

 

[expy]

i still can't download sam & max. what the fuck?

Same.

 

[androvsky]

Well, according to SCEA's twitter it looks like they're going to try the midnight message on PSN thing again.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Anyways, Plus seems to have some value. Getting discounts on games like Dead Nation was the best thing about it, since it was new and something I wanted AND I don't lose it. Still, I gave it a shot with a 3 month sub and I don't think I'm going to renew. I've got quite a few games from it, mostly minis, but it's mostly stuff that I don't have the time or desire to play. It doesn't do enough to improve my 'Playstation Experience', so I'll probably let it run out while I don't have much content to lose.

I've fallen for the trap. I have far too much stuff I wouldn't want to lose now.

I'm on the hook.

 

[jvm]

I had no trouble downloading Sam & Max. All episodes downloaded, installed themselves (by setting console to power off after downloads).

 

[Mrbob]

I can't download Sam and Max either.

 

[AndyD]

I can't download Sam and Max either.

Me neither. Maybe tonight.

 

[Lothars]

I had no trouble downloading Sam & Max. All episodes downloaded, installed themselves (by setting console to power off after downloads).

same here I downloaded and installed them on two seperate PS3's with no issue.

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

If you've been following the mess on the blogs... they are sending out redemption codes to people who have downloaded, at some point, episode 1 (demo, or bought). Apparently this is what's causing the issue. If you never downloaded it, you're fine, otherwise you're screwed.

Apparently the word yesterday was that the codes were going out last night, but then most people never got them. Now the word is that the rest are going out tonight between 10PM - 12 AM PST.

The upshot to it is that if you were effected by the problem, apparently the code going out is for a download that is not plus-linked with no expiry, so it's the same as buying it, but free. This is good news for people that may have wanted to purchase the series or are on short plus terms that don't intend to renew.

Hopefully mine comes soon so I can play this game after all of this BS.

 

[expy]

If you've been following the mess on the blogs... they are sending out redemption codes to people who have downloaded, at some point, episode 1 (demo, or bought). Apparently this is what's causing the issue. If you never downloaded it, you're fine, otherwise you're screwed.

Apparently the word yesterday was that the codes were going out last night, but then most people never got them. Now the word is that the rest are going out tonight between 10PM - 12 AM PST.

The upshot to it is that if you were effected by the problem, apparently the code going out is for a download that is not plus-linked with no expiry, so it's the same as buying it, but free. This is good news for people that may have wanted to purchase the series or are on short plus terms that don't intend to renew.

Hopefully mine comes soon so I can play this game after all of this BS.

Ahhh, yea I downloaded the demo. :\

 

[Fuzzy]

If you've been following the mess on the blogs... they are sending out redemption codes to people who have downloaded, at some point, episode 1 (demo, or bought). Apparently this is what's causing the issue. If you never downloaded it, you're fine, otherwise you're screwed.

Apparently the word yesterday was that the codes were going out last night, but then most people never got them. Now the word is that the rest are going out tonight between 10PM - 12 AM PST.

The upshot to it is that if you were effected by the problem, apparently the code going out is for a download that is not plus-linked with no expiry, so it's the same as buying it, but free. This is good news for people that may have wanted to purchase the series or are on short plus terms that don't intend to renew.

Hopefully mine comes soon so I can play this game after all of this BS.

What's funny about the 5 episodes that I downloaded is that all of them have expiry dates except for the first episode.

 

[expy]

Still got nothing here.

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

Got mine at 1 AM EST last night. Downloaded everything fine using the attachment on the PSN message. None of the episodes have an expiry date so it looks like this one turned into a real freebee.

 

[expy]

Got mine at 1 AM EST last night. Downloaded everything fine using the attachment on the PSN message. None of the episodes have an expiry date so it looks like this one turned into a real freebee.

Oh it's a PSN message!?

Edit: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Clipper]

What's funny about the 5 episodes that I downloaded is that all of them have expiry dates except for the first episode.

It's possible the first episode unlock key will expire without the first episode expiring... However, maybe it will stick around.

It's interesting, as I think the non-demo episodes actually survived expiry on the EU PS+. That's because they have a DLC won't expire clause or something (which the US one doesn't have)

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

still can't download sam & max -_-

 

[Clipper]

still can't download sam & max -_-

Did you read the thread? You should have received a message on your PS3 with an unlock code for the full version of the game (i.e., it won't expire, lucky you).

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Did you read the thread? You should have received a message on your PS3 with an unlock code for the full version of the game (i.e., it won't expire, lucky you).

yeah i read it and i checked my inbox on the ps3 and i have no messages from sony. i've been reading some stuff on other forums and there are a lot of people who haven't received this message. lame!

 

[Jinfash]

How was the second season of Sam & Max received? worth the bandwidth?

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

finally i was able to dl sam & max! i didn't get any message, just downloaded it like normal so i guess they fixed the problem in the PSN store

 

[Konosuke]

Can I stack up subscriptions? I want those extra 3 months.

 

[Baron]

Can someone clear this Plus tomfoolery up for me? Okay, the free games you get every month or every whatever period of time - once you download them, do I understand this right, they aren't like buying the game off PSN? They expire? I am thinking of getting Plus, and the big draw for me is the free games and game discounts, of course. If these aren't permanent downloads, I won't even bother.

Also, how long is the current free game up for download, Sam and Max? I'm away from home now and won't be able to buy Plus and get my freebie until I get back on December 29, a Wednesday. Will Sam and Max still be up for free then?

 

[torontoml]

as long as you are a plus member the free stuff remains yours and usable

 

[AndyD]

Can someone clear this Plus tomfoolery up for me? Okay, the free games you get every month or every whatever period of time - once you download them, do I understand this right, they aren't like buying the game off PSN? They expire? I am thinking of getting Plus, and the big draw for me is the free games and game discounts, of course. If these aren't permanent downloads, I won't even bother.

Also, how long is the current free game up for download, Sam and Max? I'm away from home now and won't be able to buy Plus and get my freebie until I get back on December 29, a Wednesday. Will Sam and Max still be up for free then?

Games that come free will be free as long as you are a Plus member. So if you get the 15 month plan, then you will get Sam and Max for 15 months and if in 15 months you renew, then even longer.

Games you buy at a discount as a Plus member (like Dead Nation's $12 vs. 15) will stay yours forever regardless of subscription.

Also, games are free on there for a month, so Sam and Max will be up until roughly the first or second week of January. Considering the download snafu they had for the first few days, I think its safe to say it will be up for a few good weeks more.

 

[Clipper]

And if you do end up letting your Plus subscription lapse, while you can't play any of the free games you loaded in the meantime, you can renew at a later date and at that point regain access to all the content you downloaded while subscribed the first time.

Note that this may or may not apply to the European Plus, but is definitely the case for the US one.

 

[Baron]

Thanks for all the info guys. Unfortunate the free games disable if you lapse, but understandable. How does that work anyhow? I wonder if your Plus lapses but you refrain from signing in to PSN - how does the game know to disable itself? Are you required to sign in to PSN to play any free Plus games?

 

[Massa]

Thanks for all the info guys. Unfortunate the free games disable if you lapse, but understandable. How does that work anyhow? I wonder if your Plus lapses but you refrain from signing in to PSN - how does the game know to disable itself? Are you required to sign in to PSN to play any free Plus games?

When you download a game it's activated for your console. The activation process will automatically set the game to expire when your PS+ subscription lapses.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Has there been any word on when the sale on Dead Nation will expire?