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Please help me out of my Smartphone dilemma

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I thought long about making this thread and ultimately decided to do it because my current contract will run out in two months and I'm seriously conflicted about what to do from there. Smartphones obviously cost alot of money and I don't want to throw it in the wind like I stupidly did so often before so I would like some honest advice about it.

First of all, I currently own a iPhone 4 with iOS 4.3.3 and I don't want this to become a iOS vs Android thread so I will explain what drove me to iOS in the first place as I used both OSs quite frequently. My "smartphone experience" actually started with a 1st gen iPod Touch which I really liked though later on when I bought my first actual smartphone I decided against a iPhone but rather went with a Telekom G1 with Android 1.5 and honestly I hated everything about it which made me sour about the whole OS. So much actually that I sold the G1 and bought a second hand iPhone 3G which I was happy with in the end.

Now before I go on I feel like I should mention that I'm aware of myself being a really irrational person when it comes to technology. For me GUIs and the visual look of a OS are really important and I love to customize the heck out of my devices and if I can't stand the look of technology I will end up unhappy with it no matter how amazing it is otherwise.

After a while Android matured in that regard and I tried it again with a HTC Desire running a MIUI ROM but even that, something felt off to me and I went back to my iPhone 3G which I eventually exchanged for a iPhone 4 once I could renew my contract which I'm happy with. Well now the obvious answer to me would be "buy a iPhone 5 and be happy!" If it only were that easy for me.

Compared to the iPhone 4 the prices for a 5 are really ridiculous here however I could afford one if I really wanted though my issue lies elsewhere. If I compare iOS with Android for myself in a pure condition I would pick Android in a heartbeat because honestly Android by now does everything I want and but the iPhone has one thing that gets me back, Jailbreaking! Without a Jailbreak I wouldn't even think about a iPhone as the default GUI, while nice, is not my taste though luckily I can easily play around with it thanks to Winterboard, have a polished GUI as a base and don't get overwhelmed with options.

Android on the other hand, I have all the freedom of the world with it and honestly as crazy as it sounds, it drives me nuts the same way Linux drove me nuts on my PC. Yes I can change everything to whatever I want on it but between decompiling APKs and crawling myself through flies, SDKs and whatnot it simply overwhelms me. To put it short I don't like the GUIs on either iOS or the various Android lines, the difference is, with the iPhone I can simply edit a bunch of .png files over Winterboard and get what I want which is the ideal middle-ground between freedom and ease to me.

Soo to get back to my core problem as I feel this post gets long enough already, I currently see myself having three options and I don't know which I should go with.

1: Get a iPhone 5 under a great risk that it comes with iOS 6.1.3 or iOS 6.1.4 out of the box which I can't jailbreak till iOS7 is released which essentially makes it "meh" to me.

2: Take the risk again and try my luck with Android once more. I thought of importing a Xiaomi Mi2 Android phone which comes with MIUI v5 out of the box since I found MIUI to be the most desirable Android spin-off for me yet.

3: Let my contract expire, buy a pre-paid card and stick with my iPhone 4 till I see other options. This proposes a problem in itself as my mother said she would like to have a smartphone once but as she has a pretty hard time with technology she wouldn't like anyone to spend money for a smartphone for her. I really would like to go on from my iPhone 4 so I can gift it to her.

Well what else should I say, both platforms have additional ups and down for me, I see the future of technology in Android, for example whenever I see the Nexus 4 of a friend of mine and also my own Galaxy Tab 2 I'm in awe about the possibilities of Android. But my fickle nature when it comes GUIs really sours it for me as far as mobile-phones go :/ On the other hand iOS has some apps that I seriously would miss and couldn't even rebuy if I wanted like the Secret of Mana remake (yeah yeah I know, SNES emulators on Android :p) and the Cave SHUMPs etc. Then again there are also Android devices with hardware I actually want like the Xperia Z...

The TL:DR version: iOS somehow makes me feel at "home" and cozy when I have a jailbreak while I find Android absolutely amazing but the GUI feels so "cold" and "technological" to me :p From a objective point of view I like both equally.

But okay if anyone still has the nerve to read my craziness, thank you very much and I honestly would appreciate any opinion.
 

TUSR

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WWDC is next month for Apple and we could be seeing the new iOS 7.0 and whatever iPhone is next.

Major releases will get jailbroken, seeing how iOS 7 will be fresh, it could take a while for that to happen
 
Android.

Then download the Go Launcher and the iPhone theme

All set!



It sounds like you really want the flexibility so that's why I vote Android, if you're not into constantly tweaking things you can get iOS-like standardization and stability out of it.

Thanks for the reply though my point is exactly that I don't like the default iOS look either though I find it much more polished to customize it myself than Android in comparison :/

WWDC is next month for Apple and we could be seeing the new iOS 7.0 and whatever iPhone is next.

Oh thanks for reminding me I totally forgot that it's next month already so I guess waiting wouldn't be that bad although thinking of the prices to buy a iPhone at launch makes me sick... :p Then again if the 4S still gets iOS7 I might just pick that over the iPhone 5 as I can surely jailbreak that for now and wait for the iOS 7 jailbreak.
 

drspeedy

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Thanks for the reply though my point is exactly that I don't like the default iOS look either though I find it much more polished to customize it myself than Android in comparison :/

Ah. I read it as you didn't like the OS itself, thinking you were ok with the layout.


Still vote android.
 
for your scenario, android.

doesn't hurt to wait a month for apple's thing though.

and winterboard themes still mostly look like shit.

Hmm I guess maybe I just have to sit down for a week or two and try to get Android under my control properly as tedious it might be as I will come off way cheaper too :/

But for the Winterboard part, I personally can handle it better than what Android offers :p

My iPhone 4:

CHZYcEa.jpg

My ex HTC Desire:

 
How much do you have invested in the iOS ecosystem? Apps/content/etc... If not a lot, then switch to Android, you're going to have similar mickey mouse bullshit whether it's APKs or jailbreaking. Apple's never going to make it easy to give you the customizability you're looking for. If you do have a lot invested (however you define that) in the iOS ecosystem, stay. It's just a GUI, it's not that horrible.
 
I say option 3, so you don't get caught out and get the 5 right before the 5s or whatever. If it's a push, get an iPhone and jailbreak. I think you like the ecosystem better, so it'll suit your needs way better.
 
How much do you have invested in the iOS ecosystem? Apps/content/etc... If not a lot, then switch to Android, you're going to have similar mickey mouse bullshit whether it's APKs or jailbreaking. Apple's never going to make it easy to give you the customizability you're looking for. If you do have a lot invested (however you define that) in the iOS ecosystem, stay. It's just a GUI, it's not that horrible.

Hmm good point actually, I really don't have alot of paid apps on the iOS side that I would miss terribly, on the gaming side it's the Cave SHUMPs, Secret of Mana, Angry Birds and a few others. And I find the customization easy and extensible enough to be honest it's just that it's always unsure how the Jailbreak thing works out.

I say option 3, so you don't get caught out and get the 5 right before the 5s or whatever. If it's a push, get an iPhone and jailbreak. I think you like the ecosystem better, so it'll suit your needs way better.

Having a brand new iPhone at launch for once will make my wallet slap me but it sure is tempting, the thing is who knows how long it takes to Jailbreak the 5S/6, the 5 alone took it sweet time too :( And I assume you wouldn't happen to know if Apple regularly updates their iPhone shipments? If I can be sure that a new iPhone 5 comes with a jailbreakable firmware around July I would have no qualms buying one :p

steps:

1) buy a popular and powerful Android mobile handset that has a lot of XDA/Indie support and tools

2) root it and install Cydia Substrate and Winterboard

Holy mother of all Pikachus... what is this sorcery? o.o That might be exactly what I have been looking for, thank you very much I will give it a go on my Galaxy Tab 2 this weekend and see if I'm satisfied with it :D
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
OP,

You're clearly a tinkerer. The OS designed for you is an Android. Get a stock Nexus.

(My smartphone/tablet history: iPhone 3G, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad, iPad 3, iPad 4, Nexus 7, WP7 LG Quantum--my preference is iOS in general)
 
He didn't specify that on the TL;DR version. WP8 is not really customizable.

Yeah sorry that was my bad indeed, I wanted to write far too much and in the end forgot some things.

OP,

You're clearly a tinkerer. The OS designed for you is an Android. Get a stock Nexus.

(My smartphone/tablet history: iPhone 3G, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad, iPad 3, iPad 4, Nexus 7, WP7 LG Quantum--my preference is iOS in general)

Well that does sound convincing from someone with your device history, thanks for the opinion :D I do would like a Nexus 4 too after seeing my friends one though before burning myself with a Android Phone again I would love it I could test a Nexus 4 for a week thoroughly with modding and all...
 
Coming from a Windows Mobile background, the ULTIMATE self-tinkerer OS, I went to iOS to WP to Android, and Android is a tinkerer's dream.

It's almost Windows Mobile 7.0

I had a WinMo phone for about 3+ or so years before I was forced to iOS (Jailbroken day 1 of course). Nothing comes close to Android for openness
 
Coming from a Windows Mobile background, the ULTIMATE self-tinkerer OS, I went to iOS to WP to Android, and Android is a tinkerer's dream.

It's almost Windows Mobile 7.0

I had a WinMo phone for about 3+ or so years before I was forced to iOS (Jailbroken day 1 of course). Nothing comes close to Android for openness

indeed. i jumped from WinMo to Android because i couldn't stand to go backwards in functionality and modding.
 
Coming from a Windows Mobile background, the ULTIMATE self-tinkerer OS, I went to iOS to WP to Android, and Android is a tinkerer's dream.

It's almost Windows Mobile 7.0

I had a WinMo phone for about 3+ or so years before I was forced to iOS (Jailbroken day 1 of course). Nothing comes close to Android for openness

indeed. i jumped from WinMo to Android because i couldn't stand to go backwards in functionality and modding.

Oh I know that Android is a tinkers dream but that can also be a drawback in a way because atleast from my experience, while you can do everything to the GUI you can't do it easily. For example I looked high and low to find out how to add a background picture to the normally black Android settings menu back in my HTC Desire days and I became so frustrated with it that I ultimately gave up. Though things seem to be better nowadays and I still have to try this Android Winterboard :)
 
Hmm I guess maybe I just have to sit down for a week or two and try to get Android under my control properly as tedious it might be as I will come off way cheaper too :/

But for the Winterboard part, I personally can handle it better than what Android offers :p

My iPhone 4:



My ex HTC Desire:


ahhhh too bright and cute for what i want on a phone lol (i'm a civilized adult! :3).


I like to keep things dark for OS's.
 
Dark and simple. I use go launcher to hide the notification bar and the rest of the crap. I use gestures for bringing up the hidden stuff.

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Edit: No offense, but I think if certain people saw the pre teen looking anime girls posted above as a wallpaper I'd have a lot of explaining to do.
 
ahhhh too bright and cute for what i want on a phone lol (i'm a civilized adult! :3).



I like to keep things dark for OS's.

Yet you do have a Tsukiko avatar... I'm kidding I'm kidding :D
It's alright I once had a liking for dark OS's too but at one point I thought "I like colors and anime and it's not like anyone in public can see my phone unless they deliberately peek on it :p" And honestly while I hid the fact that I like anime for a while in school nowadays as I'm a adult I don't care anymore what people think about this, I'm a adult and free to like what I do :3 And it's not like I am someone who "carries" this to the outside, if someone would meet me they would have no idea that I like anime until they catch a glimpse of my phone or room xD
 
Dark and simple. I use go launcher to hide the notification bar and the rest of the crap. I use gestures for bringing up the hidden stuff.

y8EpIbl.png



Edit: No offense, but I think if certain people saw the pre teen looking anime girls posted above as a wallpaper I'd have a lot of explaining to do.

None taken don't worry :) And no offense either but if my phone would look like that I would get depressed :p Also I understand your point and it may be a bit of a cultural difference but if anyone ever would point that out to me in public or at university I would reply with a simple? "Yeah and? o.o" I don't think there is anything remotely offensive about my wallpapers and if someone takes offense by a normal smiling, anime girl under a blue sky or a catgirl with headphones then I think they have a problem and not me :p

I already have seen woman running around university with artistic semi-nude shots of David Beckham as wallpapers on their laptops and it's not like I run around with hentai or ecchi wallpapers plus I already get stares for having a pretty visual disability so I am long past that point where I care. If someone at university or work would refuse to converse with me because I happen to have anime wallpapers I don't want to care about them anyway because in my opinion they are shallow and biased. Thankfully it's often the opposite for me actually where people start talking to me at random at University because they see I like anime, I often get asked if I can recommend any shows because they only know the mainstream like Dragonball heck people even asked me before if I can draw them images.

And I actually had one kind of these biased cases happen to me in my Gamestop where I would talk with a random guy while we both waited for the line to get smaller, at first we chatted about games but at one point he asked me "And, do you work in one of these workplaces for disabled people?" I politely replied "Umm no I finished my A-Levels with a 2.8 and am studying Business IT" followed by a slight chuckle :p
 
Dark and simple. I use go launcher to hide the notification bar and the rest of the crap. I use gestures for bringing up the hidden stuff.

y8EpIbl.png



Edit: No offense, but I think if certain people saw the pre teen looking anime girls posted above as a wallpaper I'd have a lot of explaining to do.

None taken don't worry :) And no offense either but if my phone would look like that I would get depressed :p Also I understand your point and it may be a bit of a cultural difference but if anyone ever would point that out to me in public or at university I would reply with a simple? "Yeah and? o.o" I don't think there is anything remotely offensive about my wallpapers and if someone takes offense by a normal smiling, anime girl under a blue sky or a catgirl with headphones then I think they have a problem and not me :p

I already have seen woman running around university with artistic semi-nude shots of David Beckham as wallpapers on their laptops and it's not like I run around with hentai or ecchi wallpapers plus I already get stares for having a pretty visual disability so I am long past that point where I care. If someone at university or work would refuse to converse with me because I happen to have anime wallpapers I don't want to care about them anyway because in my opinion they are shallow and biased. Thankfully it's often the opposite for me actually where people start talking to me at random at University because they see I like anime, I often get asked if I can recommend any shows because they only know the mainstream like Dragonball heck people even asked me before if I can draw them images.

And I actually had one kind of these biased cases happen to me in my Gamestop where I would talk with a random guy while we both waited for the line to get smaller, at first we chatted about games but at one point he asked me "And, do you work in one of these workplaces for disabled people?" I politely replied "Umm no I finished my A-Levels with a 2.8 and am studying Business IT" followed by a slight chuckle :p
 
If you already have an iPhone 4, why do you want another phone? It's still recent and powerful.

Well to be honest I would like to pass my iPhone 4 down to my mother though by now I don't know if it's a good idea :/ As of yesterday my phone falls into a kind of deep-sleep which makes anyone unable to call me after my iPhone lies idle for a hour or so :( I guess I should seek Apple GAF and ask what I should do, I still have 4.3.3
 
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