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Pokémon Go |OT 3| "No Officer, I'm a Passenger"
- Thread starter spyroflame0487
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As a show of goodwill they really ought to just let people have one final, "free" gym collection over the next 12-24 hours. That way nobody feels like the shutdown cheated them out of a collection.
Have ya'll already seen this gym rework synopsis video? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB_JAiAv2DI
Other notes:
Daily Coin/Dust Collection is over. You earn coins based on how long your Defenders stay in their gym. When your Defenders get knocked out, they come back to you with coins. So getting booted out of a gym will actually be somewhat bittersweet. I guess it will take away the sting of getting booted by a Raid event.
My most important question -- will the new Gym or Raid system yield Stardust?
Daily Coin/Dust Collection is over. You earn coins based on how long your Defenders stay in their gym. When your Defenders get knocked out, they come back to you with coins. So getting booted out of a gym will actually be somewhat bittersweet. I guess it will take away the sting of getting booted by a Raid event.
My most important question -- will the new Gym or Raid system yield Stardust?
LucidMomentum
Member
Oh for sure. I'll go out of my way to tackle a gym or two now on a trip so I can say "check these badges"
You get Stardust for feeding Berries to Pokemon in a gym.
Also Raids aren't going to boot the Pokemon out of the gyms, according to the Niantic support pages.
Icyflamez96
Member
This series is a good one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig_jHL18NWs
Which is before the first balance update so it's referencing that specifically, but the points are still valid there.
There's no one forcing them to use the exact PoGO stats. They could change things how they want to work well for their own game. Something like Butterfree could be made useful in this game with a buff, because right now Pokemon that were only good for prestiging will be more useless than ever. And I'm not saying they should all be Dragonite range, but it would be nice it it was a lot more viable to get them about the 2200 ish range so that we can see more variety up there.
The balance in this game isn't even entirely comparable to the mainline games despite the fact that they use mainline stats, because of how special and normal stats are combined into one stat, how pogo stats are converted into CP, and the ways in which it weights things. The way PoGO stats are converted goes like -- Mainline game base stats - conversion formula - pogo base stats -conversion formula - CP. In some cases CP isn't even a good indicator of how powerful a pokemon actual is because of the way the formula is...
...But I just realized actual CP values don't matter much anymore since things aren't sorted by CP. Though, if they're still planning on using it in the game as they are, they should better representative.
I'll give you the main problem with both formulas.
PoGO base stats are what determines how strong a Pokemon actually is in this game. The problem with the conversion there is it favors Pokemon who excel in either a special or normal stat. To be more clear, if a Pokemon has an abysmal special defense, but a super high defense, it will get nearly all the benefit from just excelling in that one stat, and the low stat will only account for 1/8th of influence on the base PoGO defense stat. Which means that Pokemon that are traditionally more balanced in both stats get shafted hard, and of course, Pokemon that excel in both stats are good to go. Same for attack. In the mainline games, Pokemon with a more balanced defense stat in the moderate ranges worked much better than they do in PoGO.
The issue with the CP conversion formula is that it, for whatever reason, heavily priorities attack over defense. Not to mention pretty much shafts speed too. Steelix is a good candidate for a Pokemon that is shafted by BOTH formulas, especially when compared to Rhydon, who has a notably lower stat score in the mainline games. And then see their max CP in PoGO: 2439 vs 3300
Bedameister
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Icyflamez96
Member
Awesome! I was just reading a thread on theSilphRoad suggesting that there should be more gyms now.
There's already a gym a few blocks down from me on the end of some neighborhood, but it would be so awesome if one at my local park (as I don't like sitting on the side of the road). Pls rng
Yeah, I saw on Twitter that was happening and decide to force quite the app and see if any near me had changed. Sure enough!
So everyone, restart your app and see if any near you have changed over.
You redeem your PokéCoins only after your Pokémon returns from the Gym. You can redeem a maximum bonus of 100 PokéCoins per day. If you have more than one Pokémon return from Gyms in a single day, the maximum bonus for the day is still limited to 100 PokéCoins.
So if you have 2 Pokemon returned to you in the same day, and each one is supposed to bring back 75 coins......you're only going to get 100 coins in total. That's kinda bullshit, IMO. I don't mind the daily limit, but this system potentially fucks you out of coins. You should be able to defer your collection for a few days to so as to prevent this.
So if you have 2 Pokemon returned to you in the same day, and each one is supposed to bring back 75 coins......you're only going to get 100 coins in total. That's kinda bullshit, IMO. I don't mind the daily limit, but this system potentially fucks you out of coins. You should be able to defer your collection for a few days to so as to prevent this.
Bedameister
Member
I never even got close to getting 100 coins so I don't mind this a bit lol
Icyflamez96
Member
Until they add berry bots to feed their gyms 😏
The point being is that it's possible to get cheated out of coins you earned by the daily limit, assuming you have multiple Pokemon knocked off in a day. I think a Weekly Limit would make a little more sense......often times rival gyms will roll through a neighborhood and take everything down, meaning that long-defending pokemon could be coming home all at once.
Dark_3nergy
Member
I was wondering what it meant when a gym I clicked on said 'gym_under_construction'. This will be a really neat update. Looking forward to going out and meeting people for raids too.
I hope there's some kind of limit on how many times you can berry-feed a particular gym.
It's going to be really irritating if I spend 10 minutes trying to beat down a rival gym, only to have a spoof bot show up and top the whole thing off with a bunch of berries. A lot of this update relies on Berries being a relatively rare and valuable commodity.
It's going to be really irritating if I spend 10 minutes trying to beat down a rival gym, only to have a spoof bot show up and top the whole thing off with a bunch of berries. A lot of this update relies on Berries being a relatively rare and valuable commodity.
Endorphineforeverybody
Member
So many new Gyms, double ^_^
IXI FalcoN
Member
Scalpers are going nuts on ebay. Tons of tickets up for $200+
LucidMomentum
Member
Maybe I can get rid of Nanab Berries in a useful way now...
Taco_Human
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Nollemaster
Member
A Pokéstop right next to the only gym within a kilometer radius became a gym, nice algorithm you got there Niantic.
Finally a use for those things. I have like 60 of them that Ive never used.
perfectchaos007
Member
Gyms in my area are under construction. It must be going live soon
Icyflamez96
Member
Where in the world do some of you guys live
Bedameister
Member
I can't see any new ones around me bzt I will check out the city tomorrow.
Exciting times we live in
Exciting times we live in
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
none of the stops near me changed to gyms 
hope some of the ones on my walk home after work changed will have to check tomorrow
hope some of the ones on my walk home after work changed will have to check tomorrowYou bring a team of 6 Pokemon, just like when you battle a gym.
Excellent. All my months of collecting electric move sets will pay off greatly once I find a Dragonite raid.
Bedameister
Member
So how long is this event supposed to last? Running out of balls and berries
Love the xp boost though. Gonna hit 35 soon.
Love the xp boost though. Gonna hit 35 soon.
Niantic rep said expect it to take days, not hours.
I don't think the update has even hit the Play Store yet, let alone the App Store, which is always 24-48 hours behind.
Why? You can spin a Gym now for items, and get way more items in general from a Gym then Pokestop, so they are more important now. The only downside literally is that they can't be lured.
The construction zone is gated off and actually highly dangerous to trespass on so the only people that will be able to reap the rewards of it will be spoofers.
so what you are saying is construction workers are not people
.also... so what if spoofers are the only ones that can benefit from a location. it's not like them messing with some place you can't get to really effects you.
Beyond that aside from at the launch of the update the spoofing really shouldn't be a big deal. the game is still popular but there isn't any long term benefit to continually spoofing, they get bored and stop so it shouldn't be a huge deal, or just report them.
Shorty11857
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Tried logging in for first time in months and...failed to log in
Just like old times
Just like old times