Darryl M R
Member
Caught a Dragonite that is 97% IV
Level 2 though
How bad will the stardust grind be if I want to keep it?
Level 2 though
How bad will the stardust grind be if I want to keep it?
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120.000 to bring it from level 2 to 30.
Darryl M R
Member
Welp and all I have is 101,000 stardust at the moment.
Bedameister
Member
Plus you'll need a lot of dratini candy.
I'd keep that one but not level it up yet.
Darryl M R
Member
Do you know how much candy? I currently have 40 and my work is located by a body of water so I expect to get a few Dratinis a day.
I tried using online calculator online but can someone help out with my IV check?
My Dragonite has 32 HP, requires 1 candy and 200 stardust to power up, cp is 158, weight 207kg, height 1.96m.
Pokemon Upgrade Costs
Going from Level 2 to Level 20 is 47,500 dust and 58 candy
Going from 20 to 30 will require 70,000 more dust and 70 more candies.
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Going from Level 2 to Level 20 is 47,500 dust and 58 candy
Going from 20 to 30 will require 70,000 more dust and 70 more candies.
Pokemon GO IV Calculator -- need to enter appraisal information for best results
Bedameister
Member
120 candy
I'd also recommend the calcy IV app. It's great. Especially for DPS values
Damn, I don't even have anything better then a 95% Dragonite. Still looking for a 100% Dratini.
Def keep that one. Do you already have a good Dragonite? That will require a LOT of stardust and candy, as previously mentioned. But if you don't have an already good one, you should consider powering it up.
Def keep that one. Do you already have a good Dragonite? That will require a LOT of stardust and candy, as previously mentioned. But if you don't have an already good one, you should consider powering it up.
Darryl M R
Member
It's my only Dragonite, yea I'm expecting the Stardust grind to destroy my spirits
To anyone near Philly, Niantic just added an event that will run on October 28 in Philly, along with Akron (why) and San Jose being events.
https://pokemongolive.com/events/
https://pokemongolive.com/events/
Vanillalite
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Pic of my dex since some of you are following my pathetic progress. Bonus pic of my current egg situation.
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I went after my first Dragonite spawn in a couple months. Surprise, level 30 although terrible IV.
It's surprising how easy it was to catch with a golden razz, especially relative to the legendaries. I keep all my dragonites no matter how bad the IV and CP because I'm still fond of the times when Dragonite represented the mystical pinnacle of the game
Raid fatigue has definitely set in locally. Raid groups splinter easily now because some people only want to catch certain legendaries, and others will refuse to battle if it's a gym they've done before.
It's surprising how easy it was to catch with a golden razz, especially relative to the legendaries. I keep all my dragonites no matter how bad the IV and CP because I'm still fond of the times when Dragonite represented the mystical pinnacle of the game
Raid fatigue has definitely set in locally. Raid groups splinter easily now because some people only want to catch certain legendaries, and others will refuse to battle if it's a gym they've done before.
Vanillalite
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Mewtew fuckin with the setup cause people want to do gyms they haven't done before.
This game really needs a way to see if people are waiting to battle the raid boss without using a pass. Ran across a couple people who wasted passes because not enough people showed up in time.
DTLA is definitely not a great place to raid apparently. So far 0 for every attempt at a legendary. Yikes!
DTLA is definitely not a great place to raid apparently. So far 0 for every attempt at a legendary. Yikes!
I lost my 1st Dragonite the other day. Low cp too, like 500.. Ran after like 3 balls. My perfect Dragonite record is now tarnished. 4/5 on caught (10/11 overall)
Coordinating via Discord / Facebook really the best way currently.
Is there a way to track raids anywhere? Pretty sure disneyland is the best spot down here in OC for having guaranteed amount of people doing raids
Coordinating via Discord / Facebook really the best way currently.
Dracula's Nether Region
Member
If you fail as a group, you can enter again without using an additional pass. Couldn't others then join in when they enter the lobby the second time?
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
So who should I power up for Mewtwo? I've already got Tyranatar with Dark/Dark to lvl 30 and Dragonite with Dragon/Dragon to lvl 30. I have some Gengars and Houndoom with 80+ IVs but stardust is so limited I'm not sure what's going to be best
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People didn't show up for a 2nd time.
That's the problem. People get antsy and don't want to wait around. So they pressure people to go raid even if you don't have enough people. Then if more people don't show up, and you can't actually win then it's a waste.
Hmm. Can you take a screenshot of your top Pokémon? This could help us determine if you should go ahead and power up that Dragonite or not. Or at least tell us your top 6 with their respective CP.
I would hit as many Tyranitar raids as you can until Mewtwo actually shows up and asses then. Maybe hit up a houndour nest for candy.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
If I can I will but I'm not really in a position to be hittin up specific 4 star raids. If one spawns in a good area though I'll give it a shot. I might be able to find a best around though. That's a good idea
Find level 25-30 Eevees and do the trick to evolve them into Umbreon. Then power them up to 30.
Umbreon is probably not the strongest choice for Mewtwo, but you can raise an army of them without spending a lot of dust. I don't see the point in sinking 70,000 dust into a Gengar or Houndoom, to be honest.
Also check the Silph Road Atlas to see if there are any local Houndour nests. See if you can get some high level ones from there.
Welp, my interest in Raiding is at an all time low now that Niantic has pretty much nerfed the rewards. Just had a TTAR raid where all I got was potions and revives along with the TTAR running away.
I mean really? Instead of adding potions to the revive pool Niantic decides to add it to the ENTIRE loot pool along with reducing the amount of Golden Razz and Rare Candy.
No way I"m spending money on Raid passes until this gets fixed.
It feels like I'm playing Destiny TTK when it first came out where it was possible to get nothing from the Raids.
I mean really? Instead of adding potions to the revive pool Niantic decides to add it to the ENTIRE loot pool along with reducing the amount of Golden Razz and Rare Candy.
No way I"m spending money on Raid passes until this gets fixed.
It feels like I'm playing Destiny TTK when it first came out where it was possible to get nothing from the Raids.
Yup, But we never got anywhere near enough people show up at all in the 2hrs. The other couple we showed up and the group that was there had just timed out got discouraged and walked to another raid, Wouldn't help us when asked.
Darryl M R
Member
How many people are needed for each raid?
I tried taking on Charizard with one other person and we got crushed.
Sorry can't screenshot and upload at the moment. My top 2 mons are Vaporeon (CP1531) and Aerodactyl (CP1414) both with "Overall is decent" CP messages. I'm level 22. I'm pretty sure this Dragonite is the best mon I have at the moment despite it being at level 2.
I tried taking on Charizard with one other person and we got crushed.
Sorry can't screenshot and upload at the moment. My top 2 mons are Vaporeon (CP1531) and Aerodactyl (CP1414) both with "Overall is decent" CP messages. I'm level 22. I'm pretty sure this Dragonite is the best mon I have at the moment despite it being at level 2.
HammerOfThor
Member
I'm lvl 33 and I can to a lvl 1 or 2 raid on my own no problem. I can almost do a lvl 3 but time usually expires.
Anything 4 and above you'll need a handful of high level people, or a lot of low level people.
dreamlongdead
Member
Same here. Had 2 Zapdos, 1 Lugia, 1 Moltres, and 1 Tyranitar flee from me back to back. From my latest Zapdos raid, I only got Super Potions, Hyper Potions, and Revives. I'm down to just 22 Golden Razz Berries, so maybe I should just be just stop trying to get a second Zapdos. If I keep trying, I won't even have any more of those Berries.
Niantic killed raids.
Level 1-2 : You need one person.
Level 3 : Expert players can do it alone, but you probably want at least 2-3 people.
Level 4: 4-5 people
Level 5: 10+ players. Can be done with less, but only if those people are experts.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Hmmmm I do have some good Eevees I could use
not a lot of dust... but don't you have to walk each eevee you want to become umbreon after the first (aka you can use the name trick) at least 10km?
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Finally did another Tyranitar raid today, after not doing one since before the legendaries dropped. Got like 15 people with 3 that juuuuust missed us. Nice to be able to do these again, people needing their Mewtwo teams.
Yes, certainly. If you want an Umbreon, you will have to walk each Eevee at least 10KM. I still think that's a better situation than having to sink 70,000 dust into every Tyranitar you got from a raid.
Acerac
Banned
How much more DPS does a level 30 Umbreon do than a level 20 Tyranitar?
Does it do more damage? A casual glance at numbers seems to indicate a freshly caught Ttar outclasses Umbreon without any investment.
Bedameister
Member
Got a shitty IV lvl 30 Umbreon that has a DPS of 35. My lvl 20 TTar from a raid has 25 DPS
Umbreon is a DPS beast just like Alakazam and Gengar
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
The only thing about Umbreon is the first time I did it I walked 11km, got 2 candy, evolved while my buddy and still ended up with Jolteon still. The next one I did worked out but I'm still wary on using my high IV Eevees. I'll try and do a couple though. It's a good idea
That's not the real DPS. DPS should account for a prolonged battle with average weave damage and received damage because of the charge attack cooldowns and charge meter mechanics.
dreamlongdead
Member
I didn't get the whole WORLDS set, but I have two decent Kangaskhans.
I went to the event on Sunday, and had about 5 hours. I regret not immediately heading back to the Convention Center after I took a break. I'm missing just the letter D, but I'll wait for that to come back during some event in the future. I have a few decent Kangashkan at least.
I didn't quite make the most of my visit, but it wasn't expensive to go. I paid $10 for a whole day train pass to get to and from Anaheim.
I'm honestly kind of losing interest in the game. I won't make any more serious attempts to catch extra Legendaries because of the Golden Razz scarcities. Once I get Mewtwo, I'm really not going to mess with this much until Gen 3 comes out.
I went to the event on Sunday, and had about 5 hours. I regret not immediately heading back to the Convention Center after I took a break. I'm missing just the letter D, but I'll wait for that to come back during some event in the future. I have a few decent Kangashkan at least.
I didn't quite make the most of my visit, but it wasn't expensive to go. I paid $10 for a whole day train pass to get to and from Anaheim.
I'm honestly kind of losing interest in the game. I won't make any more serious attempts to catch extra Legendaries because of the Golden Razz scarcities. Once I get Mewtwo, I'm really not going to mess with this much until Gen 3 comes out.
Bedameister
Member
I'm taking the values from the Calcy IV. I don't know what it takes into account but I'm pretty sure they do calculate attack cooldowns and charge meter into it.
But still, Espeon is known to deal a lot of damage, certainly more than Tyranitar. Tyranitar is more bulky though.
Anyways: What do you guys think about Scyther with Air Slash/Aerial Ace. It should be a good Machamp counter right. Also good against grass types. Worth leveling up? So far I evolved all my good Scythers but I'd actually would want to keep one since there aren't that many good flying type Pokemon other than that.
Ok, yeah. Go ahead and use all your stardust on that Dragonite and power it up. It will completely destroy your candy and stardust, but will become your top Pokemon by far. Will be a really good attacker to use in general.
Bedameister
Member
Oh lol, sorry I tend to mix up Pokemon since I'm not so familiar with the english names.
Umbreon sucks as. Espeon is the good one.
why is DPS depending on the opposing Pokemon moves? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, the true DPS value should consider your attack stat, defense stat, quick move, charge move, type matchup, your opposing Pokemon's attack and defense stat, its quick/charge move and type matchup, since you build up your charge meter depending on how much damage you receive (and how much you dodge). Then HP comes into play how many cycles you can complete before you faint. If you can't even complete one full cycle, it would significantly affect DPS since your built up charge meter goes to waste.
What sites and apps usually do to calculate the DPS is they do a simple how much damage does this move literally do per second. Let's say your quick attack does 10 damage in 1 second and needs 3 seconds to build up your charge attack. Charge attack A does 50 damage over 1 second and Charge attack B does 80 damage over 2 seconds. Taken literally, charge attack A would have 50 DPS and B would have 40 DPS. Except when you take a full cycle (three quick attacks and a charge attack), you would do 80 damage in 4 seconds for charge attack A (20 DPS) and 110 damage in 5 seconds for charge attack B (22 DPS). Charge attack B would win out.
That's why DPS isn't very useful. What matters more is the full cycle DPS paired with survivability. It's probably why Blissey gets chosen by the auto selector during raids because she can dish out the most damage when given unlimited time lol.
What sites and apps usually do to calculate the DPS is they do a simple how much damage does this move literally do per second. Let's say your quick attack does 10 damage in 1 second and needs 3 seconds to build up your charge attack. Charge attack A does 50 damage over 1 second and Charge attack B does 80 damage over 2 seconds. Taken literally, charge attack A would have 50 DPS and B would have 40 DPS. Except when you take a full cycle (three quick attacks and a charge attack), you would do 80 damage in 4 seconds for charge attack A (20 DPS) and 110 damage in 5 seconds for charge attack B (22 DPS). Charge attack B would win out.
That's why DPS isn't very useful. What matters more is the full cycle DPS paired with survivability. It's probably why Blissey gets chosen by the auto selector during raids because she can dish out the most damage when given unlimited time lol.
Fright Zone
Member
Game is pissing me off hugely at the moment.
Almost every time I attempt a raid, I get an error message after the 'Go!' screen when the battle is starting, meaning I've wasted my raid pass and two minutes of my life.
Once I was persistent and restarted the raid over and over until about the 5th time I didn't get the error message, but no fucking way am I wasting ten minutes doing that every time.
Two minutes is bad enough.
You should have an option of skipping straight into the battle if you're the only person there and want to attempt a raid solo.
Also, the game seems super slow to load in all the gyms, stops etc when I go into it now.
Sometimes I have the app running in the background on my phone and when I'm passing where I know a gym is I'll open it and by the time the gym has loaded in it's out of reach. Very annoying.
Anyone else have these issues?
Almost every time I attempt a raid, I get an error message after the 'Go!' screen when the battle is starting, meaning I've wasted my raid pass and two minutes of my life.
Once I was persistent and restarted the raid over and over until about the 5th time I didn't get the error message, but no fucking way am I wasting ten minutes doing that every time.
Two minutes is bad enough.
You should have an option of skipping straight into the battle if you're the only person there and want to attempt a raid solo.
Also, the game seems super slow to load in all the gyms, stops etc when I go into it now.
Sometimes I have the app running in the background on my phone and when I'm passing where I know a gym is I'll open it and by the time the gym has loaded in it's out of reach. Very annoying.
Anyone else have these issues?
Damn, nice! I'm still at 274/300 with 1830 caught.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Super noob questions since I'm just now getting into IVs.
Does the current cp of the Mon affect the IV percentage? I'm afraid of wasting stardust to test this on a mon with a lower percentage that may not be affected by maxing out the cp.
Also, do the IV percentages carry over once a mon evolves? Can I invest my stardust on the first form of a kon with a great IV?
Last question: better to feed stardust to a mon before or after it evolves? Or does it not matter.
Thanks for any help y'all.
Live by an ocean?
Does the current cp of the Mon affect the IV percentage? I'm afraid of wasting stardust to test this on a mon with a lower percentage that may not be affected by maxing out the cp.
Also, do the IV percentages carry over once a mon evolves? Can I invest my stardust on the first form of a kon with a great IV?
Last question: better to feed stardust to a mon before or after it evolves? Or does it not matter.
Thanks for any help y'all.
Damn, I'm not sure I've even caught that many Pokemon, let alone Magikarp ;__;
Live by an ocean?
CP is a number that is reflective of a pokemon's IV, level and base stats. It's just a shorthand way of expressing the many intrinsic traits that a mon has. HP, Defense, Attack, and all that other good stuff is reflected in the CP.
IV always stays the same whether you evolve or give Stardust.
I don't think it particularly matters if you feed Stardust before or after an evolution.