matrix-cat
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Andrex said:
All.
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Pokemon Black & White (Thread #3) - Seasons, Infinite-use TMs, Deru Powah, and More
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All.
Over.
MY.
FACE.
TheOGB said:
I think GameFreak is finally testing the water. They add small things like "you have 2 best friends who go on their trainer quests at the same time as you!" and we are like "OMFGGG THIS IS HUGE", wich considering previous game story changes, it is. But one has to remember, this isnt a broken formula, these games will sale like pancakes even if they are the same red/blue with new pokemon and better graphics. I for one am glad they are doing this, they really didnt needed to, in a financial stand point, but at a very slow pace (like i think its needed, it is a delicate matter to change something that works so great) they are mixing things up, finally.
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perfectchaos007 said:
It's probably not that black and white.
Pureauthor
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Well this is shaping up to be an awesome generation.
perfectchaos007
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Andrex said:
well there is some gray area. Which will be released in 2012
Not sure how true this is or not, but PokeJungle is saying that the reason why there weren't lots of new Pokemon in this CoroCoro issue was because of a mistranslation. We thought it included the "Master Document", but it actually is called the "Origin Document". Apparently the next issue will have an "Advanced Document" that it comes with. Considering the games release next month in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised to see lots of new Pokemon in the next issue.
I just had two thoughts as to how the TM system could suck now that they're all repeated-use:
1) The TMs get reassigned to something that makes GSC's look good. Seriously, check out the Gen II set here. So many stinkers...
2) There's 92+ TMs in the game, but they're divided into the two games (and of course, Gray has all of them).
1) The TMs get reassigned to something that makes GSC's look good. Seriously, check out the Gen II set here. So many stinkers...
2) There's 92+ TMs in the game, but they're divided into the two games (and of course, Gray has all of them).
Pureauthor
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Ondore said:
Shut up and don't jinx it!
perfectchaos007
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Ondore said:
Oh man what if these new TM's cant be a pokemon held item
Oh no...I can't think about this.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
HOLY SHIT INFINITE TMS O____O
Now give me no HMs and I'll have an orgasm
Now give me no HMs and I'll have an orgasm
overthehill99
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Yes. Watch literally any video of the game.DR2K said:
perfectchaos007
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udivision said:
Blu_LED said:
I'll take the average and say no change from DPPt
Hero of Legend
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But wait, old Pokemon are obtainable pre-E4!
Breed Luvdisc's evolution!
Breed Luvdisc's evolution!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Platinum and HGSS were a lot faster than DP.perfectchaos007 said:
The TM news means practically nothing to me since I've got too many dupes to bother transferring anyway. And like a thousand BP to buy more. >_>
Little Green Yoda
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Sixfortyfive said:
No more GTS cloning Explosion/Grass Knot/Trick Room TMs for me!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Oh yeah, Explosion.
Man is that one a bitch to get.
Man is that one a bitch to get.
Hero of Legend said:But wait, old Pokemon are obtainable pre-E4!
Breed Luvdisc's evolution!
Yeah I don't get this. Are you telling me we won't be able to breed or trade over from Gen 4 until Elite 4 is finished?
Also, is there anywhere other than Play-Asia that I can import a copy of White? I'm not paying $64+ for a fucking Japanese Pokemon game.
perfectchaos007
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Anth0ny said:
maybe it's only new pokemon in the wild? And if you breed, it will just be given pokemon #000 like Viktini until you get the national dex
/theory
ColtraineGF
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Well, no one knows when you'll have access to the PokeShooter. Also, Pokemon pre-Isshu are obtainable through encounters in the Dream World (like Pikachu, or Hydration Vaporeon).Anth0ny said:
The Dream World is an online location you can send your Pokemon to (by getting an ingame item, Dream Smoke, from a Pokemon that emits it, Musharna). In this world, you can play minigames and 'encounter' new Pokemon, to take back to your game.Pappasman said:
ShockingAlberto
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I think it's mainly "caves won't be Zubats and Geodudes, they'll be Batzus and Dudgeos".
It's not that there won't be any pre-BW Pokemon allowed before the E4, just not in the wild or with trainers (maybe).
It's not that there won't be any pre-BW Pokemon allowed before the E4, just not in the wild or with trainers (maybe).
Black-Wind
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What do you mean?ShockingAlberto said:
You can't trade over old Pokemon until you beat the E4 so IDK how one is to see the old Pokemon if their not in the wild or with trainers.
Maybe with those dreams?
ShockingAlberto
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You can't trade old Pokemon, I assume you can still trade with other people.Black-Wind said:
perfectchaos007
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So if the dream world is just a...dream. does that mean the previous pokemon from other generations don't exist? Do I exist? Where's my acid
Black-Wind
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Anth0ny said:
Yeah, pretty much that. They seem to really want you getting the new Pokemon only this time.
kyo_daikun
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Cant beleive infinite TM's, very interesting, wonder if you can trade across TM's from the old games as hold items?
viciouskillersquirrel
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INFINITE TMs OH GOD I'M HAVING A MELTDOWN... YEP I'M HAVING A MELTDOWN!!!
OH MY F*CKING GOD INFINITE USE TMs NOW GET RID OF HMs PLX
Hey Andrex, could you spoiler tag new pokemon names and story details in future or at least mark them as spoilers? I won't be able to avoid thread titles, but I do want to go into these games without having already pored over every single detail prior
OH MY F*CKING GOD INFINITE USE TMs NOW GET RID OF HMs PLX
Metroid Killer
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:O
No more fucking grinding for stupid Battle Points to get those popular expensive TMs, and no more holding back when assigning moves to your pokemons!!!!
No more fucking grinding for stupid Battle Points to get those popular expensive TMs, and no more holding back when assigning moves to your pokemons!!!!
Holy Order Sol
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Infinite TMs?
YES
YES
THIS IS DELICIOUS
YES
YES
THIS IS DELICIOUS
ThatObviousUser
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viciouskillersquirrel said:
Err, the names are in Japanese anyways. And I don't think there's any plot stuff in the OP.
kyo_daikun
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Andrex said:
I think its a bit too much to ask to spoiler all the pokemon, the OP would just be a post with a load of black lines if he did.
I saw someone else mentioned they don't think they will let you transfer TM's from the old games, I really can't see them letting us transfer all the Tm's over, all the crappy one's will be available ingame and all the decent one's like ice beam we will have to get them from a move tutor of some kind so you can't rape the hell out of them.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
NO.Pappasman said:
kyo_daikun
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sprsk said:
Technical machine
Their disks that allow you to teach a pokemon a move they can't learn through levelling up, they used to be single use then you would have to find another but now they are changing each one to infinite use, but as always there has to be some kind of con in it.
As TMs are now infinite use, I can see these things happening:
- Brand new TM list.
- Only one of each TM can be obtained.
- TMs cannot be transferred from 4th gen games (when attempting to transfer a Pokémon holding a TM, it will tell you to remove it first).
- TMs cannot be held (and therefore cannot be traded), just like HMs.
- TMs (and HMs) can only be used at a PC in a Pokémon Centre (to avoid abusing them for PP restoration and Elite 4 runs).
- Brand new TM list.
- Only one of each TM can be obtained.
- TMs cannot be transferred from 4th gen games (when attempting to transfer a Pokémon holding a TM, it will tell you to remove it first).
- TMs cannot be held (and therefore cannot be traded), just like HMs.
- TMs (and HMs) can only be used at a PC in a Pokémon Centre (to avoid abusing them for PP restoration and Elite 4 runs).