How in the hell is she the one that needs to move on?
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Politico: Democrats dread Hillary's book tour
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CrocMother
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I can't even imagine the psychological burden she lives with.
More like throwing her staffers the Dems and Bernie under the bus some more.
She still wouldn't have won?
I don't understand the point you're trying to make, unless you think each visit to a state swings it ~1%. And if you actually do think that... lol? She went to MI, spent a ton of time and money in PA and Florida, and her WI event was cancelled due to the Pulse shooting (and not rescheduled because it didn't look like the state was in play until after the Comey letter knocked off ~3%).
The democratic ranks genuinely suck if what you said is at all true. Also can't help but see the irony in her having opinions about her primary opponent that Are her own is a problem after a movie was released last year with the sole intention of shitting on her.
Dash_Riprock
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I mean, she lost to Donald fucking Trump...
ErasureAcer
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But the big money was calling in Cali.
Yeah, I notice the same 3-4 posters always start these threads and then disappear immediately. And mostly the same ones who will be in OTHER Hillary threads like "ugh bitch go away"
It's so transparent
Lol, the big problem that people have with Bernie in the primary isn't even Bernie "tarnishing" Hillary's name. It's the fact that he stayed in the primary long after it was clear he lost, became more extreme in his rhetoric, and helped to cause a major schism in the party.
Cow Mengde
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Delivering the Democratic party's biggest lost in history might have a thing to do with it.
RumblingRosco
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I mean, she's still calling out Bernie in her book. The last thing we need is one Democrat calling out another Dem-leaning politician. There's no way that benefits Democrats come the next election.
Unknown Soldier
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/trump-public-opinion-better-than-hillary-clinton-242398
I guess I should be impressed that Trump is able to have an approval rating higher than Hillary after what he's done so far during his Presidency. It's clear that some Trump supporters will literally support him no matter what he does, forever.
So much vitriol hahaha.
Shes not allowed to sell abook of her perspective of what happened? Is her opinion and side of the events the one thats not valid?
Hahaha. Campaign season all tactics are fair game, but after the fact "how dare she selfishly sell this book?! It's tearing us apart. She should shut up and go away".
I'll read it. Seems like it at least has some candid words.
Hahaha where was this defense post primary?
Shes not allowed to sell abook of her perspective of what happened? Is her opinion and side of the events the one thats not valid?
Hahaha. Campaign season all tactics are fair game, but after the fact "how dare she selfishly sell this book?! It's tearing us apart. She should shut up and go away".
I'll read it. Seems like it at least has some candid words.
Hahaha where was this defense post primary?
Yes visiting one of the most liberal cities in Michigan would have helped
You do you girlfriend, make that paper!
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In all seriousness, Hillary Clinton doesn't owe the Democratic party a goddamn thing. She gave 30 years of her life in public service to that party, raised hundreds of millions of dollars and compiled a list of legislative and executive accomplishments that puts her in the pantheon of progressive politicians. She can do whatever the fuck she wants as a private citizen.
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In all seriousness, Hillary Clinton doesn't owe the Democratic party a goddamn thing. She gave 30 years of her life in public service to that party, raised hundreds of millions of dollars and compiled a list of legislative and executive accomplishments that puts her in the pantheon of progressive politicians. She can do whatever the fuck she wants as a private citizen.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Country before party! No wait, um...personal before party!
lol
lol
Lord_Byron28
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Why do so many people care about a book tour? She isn't in politics. It seems after every major event someone has to have their tell all book to market and sell. This time it's Hillary. I'm personally not interested cause it seems like a cash grab and I'm tired of talking about Hillary Clinton(and Bernie Sanders). If it bothers people so much can't they just ignore it? Save your vitriol for those who are trying to repeal healthcare, DACA, supporting Nazis, etc. Let the damn women go in peace and try to sell a book. She isn't hurting, bothering or harming anyone.
Maybe some liberal voters should have actually educated themselves and voted for her to beat Trump rather than voting for spoiler candidates (IE, third party candidates) or outright being idiots and putting troll names like "Harambe" on the ballot!
They had the 2000 election to learn from but instead they fell for the repuplican propaganda about Hillary!
Gore, Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale nor Carter neither wrote nor published electoral books immediately after their defeats.
jack_package_200
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Can we wait til the full book is out before we throw it totally under the bus? 4 pages out of a likely 250-300 page book isn't enough to get an entire grasp of the book. At worst I wanna see who else she has any beef with.
Yelling about the primary being rigged did not help. It also does not help when surrogates of his, Nina Turner, still peddle this.
Yelling about the primary being rigged did not help. It also does not help when surrogates of his, Nina Turner, still peddle this.
Well yeah, it fuels your agenda, makes you happy as fuck
UltimaPooh
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Pretty sure the votes from 3rd parties didn't cost her the election.
It was a multitude of things that ultimately did her in but I think on one of the major ones is the Dems no longer doing the 50 state local level strategy and gerrymandering.
Tinfoilhatsron
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God damn sir.
Was this supposed to go against Borgnine's post? I mean she had time to do the solid red 'No we swear it's going purple' states.
I always the love "the candidate is never to blame, ever" posts. Come on man. Those people were always going to be dumb. You lose elections based on how you run your own campaign. In Hillary's case - poorly.
toadsworth
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The fact that she is visiting Wisconsin now is absolutely hysterical.
Battlezone
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I hope the book tour is just 90 minutes of her on stage eating crackers.
Tal Shiar Agent
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What did her in was direct manipulation of the election systems by the Russians.
Big Baybee
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Are we really going to blame Hillary for white America's awful decision making? Why are 70% of white men and 50% of white women voting for an openly racist candidate? Is Hillary really the biggest factor here? Trump sold these people what they wanted. She didn't deliver anything.
Lmao
20+ years PR campaign against you will do that
Deuce Deuce
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It's her right to do whatever she pleases, but she's still completely tone deaf.
jack_package_200
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Do people still think she is gonna run in 2020?
She lost to someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women and tax evasion. She ain't a threat to anyone in that primary.
She lost to someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women and tax evasion. She ain't a threat to anyone in that primary.
Or McCain, or Romney, etc.
It does come off as rather selfish, and is entirely money motivated. She could just do press interviews if she wanted to get out "what happened."
What happened is you didn't campaign where you needed to (and a multitude of other things), but she's already put a lot of the blame on her own campaign for not being where they needed to be).
UltimaPooh
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Again another factor but I think the Russians wouldn't have been as effective if the Republicans didn't have a majority in most state houses as well as in the House.
Father_Brain
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I don't actually think her book will particularly hurt Democrats in 2018, let alone 2020. It will, however, do a lot to erode her base of support within the institutional Democratic Party if she was hoping to be a kingmaker going forward.
There were enough 3rd party and throwaway votes in Florida that would have flipped Florida to Hillary!
With that logic Trump should have lost as his was literally a clown show! Voters need to accept their responsibility aswell as they knew or were warned about the risks of protest votes!
Trigonometrize.
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Why does HRC have an approval rating? She's not in any public office.
Even if they did, HRC represents so much more than just a lost election. She's an unfortunate reminder of the total failing of the Democratic Party to nominate someone remotely electable. I personally am not too critical of her tour and was a Clinton supporter in the primaries, but I wouldn't call this a normal situation.
Even if they did, HRC represents so much more than just a lost election. She's an unfortunate reminder of the total failing of the Democratic Party to nominate someone remotely electable. I personally am not too critical of her tour and was a Clinton supporter in the primaries, but I wouldn't call this a normal situation.
She is a private citizen, she wanted to serve but people didn't want her. She can do whatever she wants. She owes nothing to no one
The arrogance of selling a book? I don't know what is parody anymore. The degree of hate and dead horse beating is comical. I truly can't stop laughing.
People acting like she's running for president again. It's a book hahahaha. How dare she share her side hahaha.
Earthbound64
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When would be a non-selfish time to do it?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Who knows.
Money + connections ain't nothing to sneeze at.
Last year.
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