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Poptopic: IGN and Kotaku Reviews Aren’t Influencing Game Sales Anymore
JohnnyPhats
Member
So, the Wukong people told Sweet Baby to get fucked? $7,000,000 lol. Pay us to tell you your wrong think won’t work. WE WILL DECIDE FOR YOU WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE. And promptly ruin your game. We will rewrite it for the people that don’t buy games.
If that’s what happened I’ll buy the game today.
If that’s what happened I’ll buy the game today.
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Honestly don't care about any gaming outlets, or any kind of "journalism", of any kind, as it's all been tainted. All of it, no matter the medium.
I just read peoples own experience with the game/book/movie/incident, and do some research, and then make a decision. Hell, now that I think about it, im doing what traditional journalists used to do, and I suspect many, many people do it now as well, without realizing it.
I dont think I've visited a gaming website in at least 5 years, and I buy a ton of games. No clicks from me, so I can read about bullshit that has nothing to do with the actual game.
I just read peoples own experience with the game/book/movie/incident, and do some research, and then make a decision. Hell, now that I think about it, im doing what traditional journalists used to do, and I suspect many, many people do it now as well, without realizing it.
I dont think I've visited a gaming website in at least 5 years, and I buy a ton of games. No clicks from me, so I can read about bullshit that has nothing to do with the actual game.
yurinka
Member
The article is totally wrong about Star Wars Outlaws supposedly performing bad in sales.
I just checked PSN store's "top 10 in your country" ranking (so thetop grossing ranking) and is:
- USA: top 5 (CoD, Wukong, Fortnite, Madden before it)
- Germany: top 3 (CoD, Wukong above it)
- UK: top 4 (CoD, Wukong, Fortnite)
- France: top 4 (Cod, Wukong, Fortnite)
- Spain: top 5 (Wukong, Fortnite, CoD, EAFC 25)
- Italy: top 6 (Wukong, Fortnite, CoD, EAFC 25, EAFC 24)
Amazon.com (USA) : top 2
Amazon.de (Germany): top 1
Amazon.co.uk: top 2
Amazon.fr (France): top 2
Amazon.es (Spain): top 3
Amazon.it (Italy): top 6
P.S.: PSN's average user rating -from those who bought it- of SW Outlaws was back then 4.05/5 stars (so 81/100)
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Dr.Morris79
Member
That's so weird. They're highly reputable too 
JohnnyPhats
Member
I don’t care what blue haired “girls” named Zoey thing about anything
Nonehxc
Member
Ryan McCurdface did. Whom we all know as an horrible reviewer and worse 'journalist'.
That said, he's a superb zealot.
semiconscious
Member
yeah, i'm pretty sure that an article labelling a game a 'failure' that was written it'd appear the day after the game released deserves a certain amount of distrust. re-arranging reality to support a premise? never a good look...
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Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
IGN died after Chobot left. And nobody ever gave a fuck about Kotaku lol.
PeteBull
Member
There is tons of DEI hires in current day "professional" journalism, so ofc they promote woke agenda super hard, and on top very often give negative points for games that just want to be games, like in the older times, players got deceived many times, and many will still keep getting deceived but more and more slowly realise that review scores mean shit unfortunately, even user score on metacritic is more reliable, just look at concord, terrible game with currently 99 concurent players on steam, 1 week after launch, it has 62 review score and 1.8/10 user score.
www.metacritic.com
Just to give u quotes from 3 reviews that gave the game 75 or more:
Concord
Announced during today's PlayStation Showcase, Concord is our new PvP multiplayer first-person shooter coming to PS5 and PC in 2024. Concord is a bringing together of peoples. It's the power of games to build connection and inspire social play. The Firewalk team is driven by the type of...
www.metacritic.com
Just to give u quotes from 3 reviews that gave the game 75 or more:
vaibhavpisal
Member
Concord etc cannot be a proof of this.
Gamers have to get informed from somewhere.
Personally I like gamepass best. Play and see if you like it. Delete otherwise.
Gamers have to get informed from somewhere.
Personally I like gamepass best. Play and see if you like it. Delete otherwise.
Plague Doctor
Member
There is a fundamental lack of connection and trust with the audience with established press sites.
Their traffic cow is walkthroughs now if recent reports where they are shifting their focus is to be believed. And google might fuck that up with ai meant to keep people on the google page.
The only solution is smaller outlets (be it a site, streamer, youtuber) that has an audience that follows and enjoys the personalities and trusts their reporting and opinions.
Their traffic cow is walkthroughs now if recent reports where they are shifting their focus is to be believed. And google might fuck that up with ai meant to keep people on the google page.
The only solution is smaller outlets (be it a site, streamer, youtuber) that has an audience that follows and enjoys the personalities and trusts their reporting and opinions.
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Cert.in.Death
Member
We live in the post-PewDiePie era
If it’s softcore pornographic, it sells. Or if it has any tangential connection to Miyazaki-San.
If it’s softcore pornographic, it sells. Or if it has any tangential connection to Miyazaki-San.
While I despise these frail attempts of these outlets to push their agenda and try to force Black Myth dev's into submission, this here premise is already flawed. Mainstream gaming sites? While referring to IGN and Kutaku only? While IGN is certainly big you'd need more than that to make a case for "mainstream gaming sites aren't driving force".
Last Hearth
Member
Correlation does not equal causation.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I don't think this post is as smart or as insightful as you hoped it'd be.
joeygreco1985
Member
I haven't read an IGN review in at least 10 years. Every other game they score is a 7 and it's just very clear that they hold back critical commentary and scoring unless they get the green light. Games like Outlaws that are "too big to fail" get a 7. It's just predictable at this point.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I don't think Kotaku ever had review influence and IGN definitely has declined in that sense, but they're not the only outlets reviewing games.
Concord has a 62 on Metacritic. Dustborn a 68. In 2024, that translates to a solid 4/10. The critical response to both of these games have been bad.
Concord has a 62 on Metacritic. Dustborn a 68. In 2024, that translates to a solid 4/10. The critical response to both of these games have been bad.
bender
What time is it?
I bough Gungrave because this review made me laugh.
Gungrave Import Review - IGN
Frequently, I'm of two minds when it comes to my opinion on a game. Usually the split isn't so bad that I can't reconcile my feelings, with a little bit of effort, and present a reconciled point of view that presents both sides of the issue. However, that is not the case with Gungrave, the new...
IGN was a fun read at times in the the PS2 era with Dave Z and David Smith.
Zathalus
Member
What an absolutely shit article. Review scores have never had a major impact on how well a game has sold, there are games from the 90s or early 2000s that had amazing review scores but were commercial flops. Marketing and gamer hype has always played a far major role in a games success. The article then makes its real agenda clear by mentioning the debunked SBI nonsense with Game Science like it’s a fact. The next zinger, with zero supporting evidence mind you, is that Star Wars Outlaws is some sort of sales flop when nothing has been released on the numbers at all. Amazing work of investigative journalism, real top notch stuff.
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Destin just mentioned months ago anything between 7 & 10 worth your time, well, then why the mods in the comment section? why the messaging is so poor back then? 7 was literally the sites selling point for getting paid from these publishers and not pissing the average users, that's why mods existed in the first place.
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King Dazzar
Member
Since when were IGN trusted?
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Ah if it isn’t the “dude trust me bro” source of information.
Totally baseless and being lead go stoke flames for those who hate these sites.
IGN may be retarded but they put out decent content. They generally explain why or why not they like a game. However, they are bought out and rarely score below a 7, when a game may very well be a 3.
Totally baseless and being lead go stoke flames for those who hate these sites.
IGN may be retarded but they put out decent content. They generally explain why or why not they like a game. However, they are bought out and rarely score below a 7, when a game may very well be a 3.
Deerock71
Member
The GIF that keeps on giving.
Generic
Member
Wukong got better reviews overall than Dustborn, Concord and Outlaws. This article is just trying to push the "critics are always wrong" meme.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
People here make fun of IGN but when they do a review some if not most of you buy based on what they say or you're enraged if its your favorite franchise/game/universe and they have a lower score. If you're going to call IGN shit, how about you stop putting their reviews in your review threads and ignore them completely? Oh right, the double standards, aint gonna happen.
Fahdis
Member
Man alot of you following influencers for your gaming choices is weak sauce. Literally look at the marketing of the game and decide for yourselves. Why do you need someone else's permission? Wtf.
Also, fuck IGN and Kotaku. I stopped using any sites 15 years ago and just looked at forums in terms of user input. I still played what I liked.
Also, fuck IGN and Kotaku. I stopped using any sites 15 years ago and just looked at forums in terms of user input. I still played what I liked.
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Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
Kotaku is 'the early days of videogame journalism' is it?
Fucking idiot zoomers.
Fucking idiot zoomers.
JohnnyPhats
Member
I can only speak for myself. But I am extremely grateful that ign was there to protect me.
tomato shrub
Member
This. "Can't spell ignorant without IGN" didn't originate yesterday, I already heard that 20 years ago. Which is also when I stopped going there, because their reviews were so generic (ok, maybe more like 15 years ago). Which clearly was the right decision from the few tidbits I've seen from people like those Destin or Greg Miller guys, who apparently all spawned there. Terrible.
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Gambit2483
Member
Shittake...and now they toss out 7's like candy (to keep the lights on).Fuck IGN
Shameless.
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Deerock71
Member
sharp weiner
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Bonfires Down
Member
It’s complete bull. They knew they couldn’t base an article on just two games so they decided to throw Outlaws in there when most likely the game is selling like hotcakes.
March Climber
Member
If you think this was bad, this upcoming era of influence is due to be much worse.That's so weird. They're highly reputable too
ManaByte
Gold Member
#5 on US PSN. #2 physical game on Amazon after BLOPS6. Yea, it's selling well.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Aside Avatar saying "hi", Star Wars game will sell with or without media due to its IP. It is like Hogwarts Legacy game - no matter how triggered folks on Resetera are or media outlets, it will sell.
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