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I've never seen the thread you speak of.Sasimirobot said:Funny. The "ask my japanese girlfriend all your stupid and perverted questions" thread that I posted barely got a [meh..].
Dan said:I've never seen the thread you speak of.
But c'mon, this can't be misconstrued as anything BUT showing off. You didn't pop in and talk about her and neither did anyone else. You didn't say "hey, I totally dig this girl, we have a great time together, blah blah blah, and hey, here's pic of us or her." You came in, posted a pic, and asked others to do the same. Not of people they care about or girlfriends, but "Asian girlfriends." What, some girlfriends aren't worth seeing or speaking of? It's just sly objectification made obvious by the fact that you don't speak of what she means to you until you're challenged about the thread's merits.
I've dated a number of Asian and Indian girls, but I would never just put up a picture of them on the Internet like this. There's no purpose except for others to ogle and comment on. None whatsoever. And beyond that, I never sat around referring to them as my "Asian girlfriend." They were girlfriends, simple as that. No add-ons, no classifications, nothing else.
And another level that this thread is beyond screwed up, is how Oli jumps in and posts some pic of his girlfriend "pretending" to be Japanese. I mean, c'mon. Not only is it off-topic and more of his attention seeking crap, but it's also stereotypical. Besides which, one definitely has to question why Oli would ever take some of these pics in the first place. "Hey darling, let me get a shot of you face down on a bed of your ass so I can post it repeatedly online." His rep speaks for itself and his responses are pretty indicative of what this thread was obviously going for. Playboy gives more personal information about strange naked women, you guys are just posting pics and giving name and age and claiming them as your "Asian girlfriends." Oh, let's not forget great comments like "I win."
Sorry, this thread is pretty revealing, and I stand by saying it's wrong on a variety of levels.
That's my piece.
I have a Chinese gf, and am in love with her, there's certianly no envy from me and I agree with Dan's post. He got it spot on.naz said:cho dasai
let the man show his pride... I smell envy
Dan said:I've never seen the thread you speak of.
But c'mon, this can't be misconstrued as anything BUT showing off....You came in, posted a pic, and asked others to do the same. Not of people they care about or girlfriends, but "Asian girlfriends." What, some girlfriends aren't worth seeing or speaking of? .
It's just sly objectification made obvious by the fact that you don't speak of what she means to you until you're challenged about the thread's merits.
Sorry, this thread is pretty revealing, and I stand by saying it's wrong on a variety of levels.
That's my piece.
Dan said:You only smell envy because it's easier than trying to prove me wrong.
naz said:dude it maybe wrong for you but he should be free to post his girlfriend's photo on here
and I am happy for Olimario it is cute that he care for her so much that he can't stop posting about her... It is nice to have someone you are so proud to have as part of your life... and since most of us spend so much time on GAF... GAF becomes a place where we share things in our lives. Baby photos of new borns, new pets... so why not Girlfriends?
I didn't say he wasn't free to post it. I'm just not going to respect it. If he wants to talk about what she means to him and share in that way, then there's something to that. Just posting a pic of her rear, and by request to boot, is simply not something I'm going to respect.naz said:dude it maybe wrong for you but he should be free to post his girlfriend's photo on here
And this thread provides nothing else than an indication of Oli having an attractive girlfriend, and that he wants to show off her physical attributes, and is perfectly willing to comply to requests of even more objectifying pics.and I am happy for Olimario it is cute that he care for her so much that he can't stop posting about her... It is nice to have someone you are so proud to have as part of your life... and since most of us spend so much time on GAF... GAF becomes a place where we share things in our lives.
Baby photos are almost always attached with actual text speaking to how much having a child means to them and how it's such an amazing event in their lives. There is almost always actual substance alongside that. Pets? Well, pets are also emotional attachments and people on this board tend to talk about those quite a bit, and even when they don't, pets aren't going to be offended at being objectified. Fact is, people were just posting pics of "Asian girlfriends" here. There was no discussion of how proud they are to have them in their lives or what they mean to them. Just pictures and some names and ages.Baby photos of new borns, new pets... so why not Girlfriends?
And maybe they do. But this is a thread designed to have people objectify girlfriends of a certain ethnicity without any other personal information or context. I'm not saying you're all not free to do it, but maybe, just maybe you should think about it before you do. All I know is that if I were an Asian woman and my boyfriend were posting me up like meat for others to ogle, well, I wouldn't feel particularly good about it or him.Mugen and Koshiro both have playful avatars that degrade and disrespect women on some level if you take this moral BS far enough
Because I didn't notice them? Or because their thread titles didn't telegraph that they were designed to objectify a certain ethnicity of women?naz said:We have had a post girlfriend photo threads on GAF a few times before and none of this BS came up? What gives?
Both of our avatars aren't real people who, you know, deserve respect.naz said:Mugen and Koshiro both have playful avatars that degrade and disrespect women on some level if you take this moral BS far enough
ScientificNinja said:I'm with Dan - this thread is absurd. As far as I'm concerned, if you're cruel or stupid enough to post a pic of your girlfriend on GAF, then you don't deserve her. This Asian fetish thing is just SAD.
We have had a post girlfriend photo threads on GAF a few times before and none of this BS came up? What gives?
Dan said:I didn't say he wasn't free to post it. I'm just not going to respect it. If he wants to talk about what she means to him and share in that way, then there's something to that. Just posting a pic of her rear, and by request to boot, is simply not something I'm going to respect.
And this thread provides nothing else than an indication of Oli having an attractive girlfriend, and that he wants to show off her physical attributes, and is perfectly willing to comply to requests of even more objectifying pics.
Baby photos are almost always attached with actual text speaking to how much having a child means to them and how it's such an amazing event in their lives. There is almost always actual substance alongside that. Pets? Well, pets are also emotional attachments and people on this board tend to talk about those quite a bit, and even when they don't, pets aren't going to be offended at being objectified. Fact is, people were just posting pics of "Asian girlfriends" here. There was no discussion of how proud they are to have them in their lives or what they mean to them. Just pictures and some names and ages.
And maybe they do. But this is a thread designed to have people objectify girlfriends of a certain ethnicity without any other personal information or context. I'm not saying you're all not free to do it, but maybe, just maybe you should think about it before you do. All I know is that if I were an Asian woman and my boyfriend were posting me up like meat for others to ogle, well, I wouldn't feel particularly good about it or him.
And I'll go ahead and agree with ScientificNinja's post as well.
Well, just to try and explain, I think the very usage of "Asian girlfriend" starts by turning them more into objects than real people with feelings and personalities. Following that with simple posts of pictures with no text seems to indicate an inherent "This/she is mine" comment, and of course the "I win [because I have the best one]" line. There's just no attachment of humanity to these pictures, and it's almost actively avoided. They're not displayed as people, but rather things that they have the power to show off. That's sorta my take.-jinx- said:Finally, I don't quite understand why you are vehemently pushing the "objectification" angle. The definition of objectification is in the intent, and I'm not sure you can prove a case here.
Bob White said:Plus this thread adds to the completely RAGE INDUCING japanophile/love everything Asian type mentality of most of the posters here on GA.
-jinx- said:you should not be posting someone else's picture without their permission, PERIOD.
That's fair enough -- good point.Dan said:Well, just to try and explain, I think the very usage of "Asian girlfriend" starts by turning them more into objects than real people with feelings and personalities. Following that with simple posts of pictures with no text seems to indicate an inherent "This/she is mine" comment, and of course the "I win [because I have the best one]" line. There's just no attachment of humanity to these pictures, and it's almost actively avoided. They're not displayed as people, but rather things that they have the power to show off. That's sorta my take.
Zaptruder said:Dan, you've made this thread VERY disappointing.
2 pages... with the second page filled with NOTHING BUT WORDS?!!
And if Oli's g/f isn't asian, he needs a punch in the face.
What I dont understand is why any poster's love of Japanese culture "rage inducing" to you?
COCKLES said:Blinx approves of GAF Asian Girlfriends. With apologies to whoever GF it was getting a 'portion' of fastforward & rewind from Blink. :lol
Bob White said:Plus this thread adds to the completely RAGE INDUCING japanophile/love everything Asian type mentality of most of the posters here on GA.
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I don't think that's fair. The guy expressed his point of view clearly -- nothing "pseudo" about it -- and provided evidence, which isn't trolling in my book.XS+ said:Dan's posting history of pooing on every thread with pseudo -intellectual or -moral trolls don't play a factor in this topic?
COCKLES said:Blinx approves of GAF Asian Girlfriends. With apologies to whoever GF it was getting a 'portion' of fastforward & rewind from Blink. :lol
Your book needs revising. A well-written troll is still a troll (comments --whether it's right or wrong-- made in hopes and aims of calling attention to himself and making certain people feel small in one way of another)-jinx- said:I don't think that's fair. The guy expressed his point of view clearly -- nothing "pseudo" about it -- and provided evidence, which isn't trolling in my book.
Your comment about "smug moralizing asses" isn't a troll itself? And I suppose you have proof of Dan's "intentions?"XS+ said:Your book needs revising. A well-written troll is still a troll (comments --whether it's right or wrong-- made in hopes and aims of making certain people feel small in one way of another)
Lonestar for example makes good points too from time to time but you have to factor in his intentions.
One inflammatory comment deserves another?-jinx- said:Your comment about "smug moralizing asses" isn't a troll itself? And I suppose you have proof of Dan's "intentions?"
His posts in movie threads lead me to question how sincere he is. No smoking guns or anything.And I suppose you have proof of Dan's "intentions?"
Teh Hamburglar said:This is Makuna. We've been together for 6 blissful months. Shes a beast in the sack too. Rawwr.
This doesn't strike you as unusual?Miburou said:I'm looking through this thread, but I fail to see this supposed "over-the-top worship of Asian women". Care to point it out?
Bogdan said:And jesus christ you guys act like just because a man has an Asian girlfriend he must worship everything that is Asian. This is basically my first Asian girlfriend, before her was a black girl and before that was a white chick so come on down off of your high horses. She is Cambodian anyway, pretty low on the "Asian totem pole." I have always found that the people railing so hard against the japanophiles are the closeted hardcore ones, maybe this thread hits too close to home.