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Professor Layton and The Miracle Mask |OT| This Is Another Layton Game (But In 3D)
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axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Genius! It just shows that many people find the 3DS puzzling.
haha, you got a few laughs over here!
it could be, but so then games like NSMB2 shoulda gotten the same bad reviews, and there are none. My guess is that a lot of adults bought this, either for them or their children, and had a tragic surprise
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
To counteract the one star reviews, I just gave it a 5 star.
reggieandTFE
Member
The presentation on this game is really amazing. The backgrounds and 3d models look great and the depth comes across well.
Exterminieren
Banned
Profiteering = making new products, apparently.
you're a good man. I'm going to review it as well once I play and finish it
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I'm now dreading the reviews of Wii U games.
Should have been released on PS3 instead. Greedy Nintendo making us buy their console.
wait, why does this sound familiar...
I'm really excited to finally start my digital copy of Layton once I get a moment where I feel like I can relax enough to enjoy it. 
I've been chipping away at NSMB2 in spare moments -- I'm really surprised how great that game is, given I never particularly liked the "NEW!" series, and I'm glad I got it as a companion title to Layton. Their tabs are sitting all cozy-like together on my 3DS Home Menu.
I've been chipping away at NSMB2 in spare moments -- I'm really surprised how great that game is, given I never particularly liked the "NEW!" series, and I'm glad I got it as a companion title to Layton. Their tabs are sitting all cozy-like together on my 3DS Home Menu. My favorite part. Nice to see a series introduce some fresh, innovative, and well-suited gameplay to the mix.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Insane Amazon Review update:
There's now 7 one-star reviews. Seven!
Also, if you want to see how deep the 3DS-only disgust goes, look at this thread.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Will-this-g...d_dp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B004JHY40C
Yeah...
There's now 7 one-star reviews. Seven!
Also, if you want to see how deep the 3DS-only disgust goes, look at this thread.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Will-this-g...d_dp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B004JHY40C
Yeah...
Tangled-shit puzzles always get me. Maybe it's because I have bad eyes or something, or because my clear vision range without glasses is stupid, but I have a hard time getting my eyes to focus on the mess properly to decipher them.
BassForever
Member
Thus far I've dumb lucked three puzzles by complete accident, the first one was the sharing the load 1 where I managed to guess the correction solution on my first attempt (it's a trial and error puzzle). The second and third puzzles I dumb lucked were both slot machine puzzles. Both times I entered a random number, spun it twice mostly looking for the pattern, both times my random number ended up being a correct answer.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were an actual "Professor Leighton" game on iOS
BassForever
Member
Just completed the main game, will have to sleep on it before I figure out how I rank it compare to the others in the series, but I really enjoyed it.
I'm like eight puzzles in on this, my first Layton game, and it's GREAT! I really like the professor's personality, how he's all about elegant gentlemanly solutions, lol. I spend a lot of time scouring each area for Hint Coins, but I've only used one for the puzzle with the
. So far I've got all the picarats, save for a few I lost on one failed attempt... I like how there are also 3D objects to find and add to your collection, and how the game tracks the mysteries and story developments in the journal. The game is very user-friendly, and has a cool progression between cutscenes, investigating the environment, solving puzzles, and playing the occasional minigame. Charming world with charming characters, a really smart script, great voice acting, gorgeous music, slick cel-shaded graphics, great 3D effects... The game has it all. Going back and forth between this and NSMB2 with the occasional Raid session in Revelations = gaming bliss!
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Mega Man's Electric Sheep
Member
Going into the end of the game, I would have given the story a 5/10. The obvious twist happened, it all seemed so boring and blah. But then! They kept explaining past the obvious twist and my man tears flowed and I now consider the story a 10/10, second only to unwound future in layton stories. Seriously people, don't judge the story by the obvious twist we all identified by chapter 2. It has so much more to offer *sniff*
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Bravo, sir!
I feel the same way about Layton. It does make my 3ds a complete bundle of joy that I always carry around with me. For me though, that bundle includes platformers and puzzlers - Mutant Mudds, VVVVVV, ML3D, Pushmo, Layton and a myriad of eShop titles.
I cried too at the end of unwound future, it'll be very interesting.
slaughterking
Member
Robot minigame music is still the best.
BassForever
Member
That 3rd puzzle was ridiculous, eventually I found the best way to solve it was to start with the upper left corner. Once it was correct the rest of the puzzle was easy to fill in. Personally I'd take 1 million more title stacking puzzles over one more sliding block one <_<
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
The sliding blocks one in the Museum has been the highest-rated one I've seen yet, and for a good reason too - took me a darn couple of hours to solve! It was a brilliant puzzle, though.
There was nothing remotely inspired by Zelda in the ruins. In fact, out of the 5 Layton games I've played, the ruins chapter is the worst thing ever. It was long, repetitive, boring, and mostly just bad. The only good parts where the puzzles, and I don't mean the crappy rooms where you push rocks or trap mummies. Garbage imo. I'm glad I cleared that chapter and I hope I never have to play anything like it again in the Layton series.
Umm.. okay. I liked the puzzles (got stumped a couple of times), and it was a nice change of pace, I thought.
Inspired by Zelda? Well the perspective, the shovel (digging and refilling holes), the floors (B1, B2 etc), the switches, the puzzles (Ocarina ice-block pushing, etc), the mummies, the boss arena, the ambiance... I'd say it was a clear intentional lift.
Nocturnowl
Member
Any variety gained through the ruins section is swiftly squandered by repetition, one can only perform so many tedious and basic block pushing puzzles before just wanting it to end already.
If they intended for it to be a copy of Zelda, they did a piss poor job of it. I guess that's par for the course with Level 5 though.
Yes, I think if they had 2-3 floors, it would be a fun mini-game distraction. But it just went on.... and on.... and on.... and it was all the SAME thing. I was actually jumping for joy whenever I dug a puzzle up, because at least it's a REAL change of pace.
big black woman
Member
Is there a way to transfer the save data to my sd card? I rented this but want to come back to it eventually.
nope, savegames are tied to the card.
kobashi100
Banned
WTF @ Mummy chamber 6!
It seems like there is no space to trap them. I have no idea how to clear this.
It seems like there is no space to trap them. I have no idea how to clear this.
Nocturnowl
Member
If that's one with spike mummies and the switch in the top left then you can trap one and then just lure the others out to follow you in a conga line, when you hit the switch they vanish anyway.
I think some people really are THAT stupid. Three one star reviews on amazon.de alone, because the reviewers thought they could play the game on their DS. m(
slaughterking
Member
Finished the game. Some quick thoughts:
Good:
- The transition to 3D is great. It's not perfect, the characters are not quite there, but the backgrounds look amazing. Very detailed, full of personality and it gives the series a fresh look. I think the diorama look in particular is just super nice to look at.
- Some of the best music the series has to offer. Robot minigame music, anyone?
- Sweet ending. Yes, it's predictable, but the way it plays out is enjoyable and pretty cute.
- The teaser for the next game was neat. Throwing a tiny bit of the family-friendliness out of the window.
Bad:
- The ruins were boooring. I appreciate the idea, but there was just way too much hand-holding, dialog and repetition. It also controlled badly. The pacing was just off in every way.
- The story had a couple of lows that were just not very interesting. The game is also very long, so it felt like a drag at times. You could probably remove about three to four hours to make the plot tighter without losing anything of significance.
- The formula is getting a little bit old maybe? Yeah, I dunno. I don't feel very negative about the existing formula, but I do feel like some changes would have been nice.
Overall, it's a totally solid Layton game. I rank it below The Unwound Future and The Curious Village and above the other two.
Good:
- The transition to 3D is great. It's not perfect, the characters are not quite there, but the backgrounds look amazing. Very detailed, full of personality and it gives the series a fresh look. I think the diorama look in particular is just super nice to look at.
- Some of the best music the series has to offer. Robot minigame music, anyone?
- Sweet ending. Yes, it's predictable, but the way it plays out is enjoyable and pretty cute.
- The teaser for the next game was neat. Throwing a tiny bit of the family-friendliness out of the window.
Bad:
- The ruins were boooring. I appreciate the idea, but there was just way too much hand-holding, dialog and repetition. It also controlled badly. The pacing was just off in every way.
- The story had a couple of lows that were just not very interesting. The game is also very long, so it felt like a drag at times. You could probably remove about three to four hours to make the plot tighter without losing anything of significance.
- The formula is getting a little bit old maybe? Yeah, I dunno. I don't feel very negative about the existing formula, but I do feel like some changes would have been nice.
Overall, it's a totally solid Layton game. I rank it below The Unwound Future and The Curious Village and above the other two.
Cleared all the puzzles in the game, finished all the main minigames, unlocked all the Top Secret content.
Things left to do:
- Working through the unlocked bonus levels for the robot game.
- Getting perfect scores on the horseriding minigame.
- Daily puzzles!
I have to say, in terms of quality of content, the bonus stuff in Miracle Mask is MUCH better than the previous games imo. The Daily Puzzles are really nice, and I like themed puzzles. The robot minigame was less interesting initially, but the bonus levels are REALLY fun. Horseriding is kinda garbage though. It would be better if you could just use the d-pad instead of stupid sliding controls.
Things left to do:
- Working through the unlocked bonus levels for the robot game.
- Getting perfect scores on the horseriding minigame.
- Daily puzzles!
I have to say, in terms of quality of content, the bonus stuff in Miracle Mask is MUCH better than the previous games imo. The Daily Puzzles are really nice, and I like themed puzzles. The robot minigame was less interesting initially, but the bonus levels are REALLY fun. Horseriding is kinda garbage though. It would be better if you could just use the d-pad instead of stupid sliding controls.
I just started Ch. 2 on this, my first Layton game. Great stuff so far. I'm about 13 picarats short of what I could've had if I'd done every puzzle so far perfectly. If at the end of the game I come up short in picarats, is there like a way to grind for more or something? I'd like to ultimately unlock all the Top Secret stuff.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that it's designed such that you can still unlock everything if you complete every single puzzle with the bare minimum. Doing better just means that you should have more stuff unlocked when you beat the game, before you go looking for all the remaining puzzles.
That sounds great -- can someone confirm this? I wouldn't be surprised, given how thoughtfully designed the game is so far, but I'd still like to confirm. Also, what's with the bonus content you can only access with the password from another game? What kind of bonus content is it?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Seeing the fallout on Amazon.co.uk and now Amazon.com too (people are actually attempting to saw off the 3DS cartridge tab to get it to play on the DS!) makes me think that Nintendo missed a trick by not releasing a Layton 3DS bundle. Many people have become aware that the 3DS is a new console because of this game.
Judging from previous games in the series, you should have no problem. The bonus content usually turns out to be
Neiteio said:
Judging from previous games in the series, you should have no problem. The bonus content usually turns out to be
a sliding square puzzle featuring an image from the previous game and/or prototype sketches of characters
Just goes to show how much Nintendo reached into non-gamers with the 3DS. The notion of games being made for newer hardware which cannot run in older hardware is alien to them. I vaguely remember some people being shocked by the fact that the games for different CD-based platforms weren't compatible with other platforms back in the early 32-bit era.
I just lost it