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[DeafTourette]

Given that the Holocaust was nearly 80 years ago, it stands to reason that Magneto, and therefore Charles Xavier, can't be their main 616 counterparts (remember, the MCU isn't 616 and is mostly based on the Ultimates universe but is its own universe designate), how would you frame their stories? Who would you cast? What is their trauma? How old would they be?

 

[DKehoe]

I've wondered this about Magneto's origin story for a while. In the comics is he still a holocaust survivor? At some point it's going to make no sense for that to be the case.

 

[-Arcadia-]

What is their trauma?

This time, Magneto is the survivor of a Twitter thread where someone told him he was wrong.

 

[Tesseract]

magneto is external and deluded, shocked and torn by hitler's occupation and concentration camps

he's dark, murderous, resolute, pessimistic, charismatic; sees things through lenses of power and oppression

charles is internal and somewhat disillusioned, physically and psychologically wracked with injury and trauma; keen insights into motivations, struggles, strengths and gifts of others

if i was to make a movie now, i'd probably obsess over the ending of the first movie and first class

 

[Goro Majima]

Time travel, de-aging, or some sort of suspended animation will probably be the answer.

I don't think they want to erase a prominent Jewish character and Holocaust survivor. That's too big of a hook.

 

[kunonabi]

Time travel, de-aging, or some sort of suspended animation will probably be the answer.

I don't think they want to erase a prominent Jewish character and Holocaust survivor. That's too big of a hook.

Nah, the woke types are more obsessed with Magneto being black to actually have an issue with that. Jewish representation isnt much of a priority these days anyway.

 

[Mihos]

They can always have an in universe conflict or war that isn't necessarily WW2.

Make it a Laveria vs Kahndaq, to set up Doom and Black Adam.

I heard some rumor about Magneto and Dooms stories being paralleled in some way already in the mcu

 

[DeafTourette]

They can always have an in universe conflict or war that isn't necessarily WW2.

Make it a Laveria vs Kahndaq, to set up Doom and Black Adam.

I heard some rumor about Magneto and Dooms stories being paralleled in some way already in the mcu

You're mixing universes but I get what you're saying

 

[Mihos]

You're mixing universes but I get what you're saying

My brain is overheating....

 

[Ornlu]

Replace Magneto with Colossus, use the character in the same way, just using the horrors of the Sowjet Union instead of Nazi Germany, maybe? Could even make Colossus an Armenian Jew for extra oppression.

Or make a new character who survived the current day Communist China Uighur concentration camps? Or Communist China Falun Gong prison camps? Or a sole survivor of a Communist China organ harvesting slaughterhouse? You could really keep the same character with a different ethnic background.

Xavier wouldn't necessarily need to change, unless there's some part of his character that is tied to the time period? (there might be, I'm no expert)

Spoiler

YOLO X-Men 2099 Xavier all the way baby

 

[Robot Carnival]

just say that they age differently than normal human due to their mutant genes. then you can keep the original back story.

 

[Sub_Level]

This time, Magneto is the survivor of a Twitter thread where someone told him he was wrong.

 

[infinitys_7th]

EM powers are linked to time travel in a lot of fiction. You could have the stress of a young Magneto's situation in the Holocaust (e.g. he watches his family get killed after being held in a camp) trigger some sort of overload of his powers to kill the guards while also sending him 20+ years forward in time as a safety mechanism. Let him mature in the civil rights/Vietnam War era to give him even more exposure to the injustice and the failures of nonmutants.

You could even have him initially trying to figure out how to boost his power to that level again to try to move backwards in time to save his family (perhaps why he goes to university and meets Xavier), and that motivation gradually gets superseded by revenge against nonmutants.

 

[DeafTourette]

just say that they age differently than normal human due to their mutant genes. then you can keep the original back story.

But what about the fact that no one has seen mutants yet?

 

[Robot Carnival]

But what about the fact that no one has seen mutants yet?

some of them didn't know they're mutant, some are just hiding. you can kinda change "Quicksilver" and Scarlet Witch back to mutant now too. you can even say that before it was only a handful of them so they've been staying low. but after the snap, some of the people (not all of them) that came back went through some sort of change and are now mutant. so the mutant population suddenly expanded, thus causing issues in society.

 

[triplestation]

get this motherfucker out of retirement and force him to play magneto

 

[Tesseract]

get this motherfucker out of retirement and force him to play magneto

this is why trip is the best of us

 

[triplestation]

what a fucking dream it would be to see day-lewis magneto have a mental square off with ben kingsley professor X

 

[triplestation]

closest we'll ever get to the dream

 

[O-N-E]

How about he dies? How about Xavier dies? How about there being a point to Marvel comics? An actual, real conclusion for characters and stories? Not a universe, not a "timeline", just a meaningful end.

Move on.

You can remake the movies again in a decade or two. That's where the big money is anyways.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

Nah, the woke types are more obsessed with Magneto being black to actually have an issue with that. Jewish representation isnt much of a priority these days anyway.

Lol oh man that ERA post where magneto is now black and his family was killed by police.

 

[TheSadRanger]

magneto is external and deluded, shocked and torn by hitler's occupation and concentration camps

he's dark, murderous, resolute, pessimistic, charismatic; sees things through lenses of power and oppression

charles is internal and somewhat disillusioned, physically and psychologically wracked with injury and trauma; keen insights into motivations, struggles, strengths and gifts of others

if i was to make a movie now, i'd probably obsess over the ending of the first movie and first class

We didn't deserve the greatness of Fessbender Magneto and outside of First Class the McAvoy X-Men films sucked.

The McAvoy films gave Magneto a GOAT tier theme though.

 

[jason10mm]

Lol oh man that ERA post where magneto is now black and his family was killed by police.

Heh heh, they want to apply that origin to EVERY hero and villain!

I'm not sure why there needs to be a tragic backstory to comic book characters. I'd like to see them start to migrate away from "my powers are ONLY to fight crime or cause it" to "here is how these powers can change the world or benefit/hurt me". But I guess violent conflict is the base narrative of most every superhero comic so this is inevitable. I think it is a reflection of the writers though, they see themselves as either nobly suffering for the good cause or subconsciously recognizing how they would lash out towards society if they had just a smidge of actual power.

 

[Azurro]

Well, given that the MCU is going to pander to the woke crowd in the next phase, I'd say Magneto will be a black, muslim trans man that leads a rogue Antifa terrorist cell.

 

[DeafTourette]

I just don't see how they make Magneto an octogenarian Holocaust survivor for multiple movies over a number of years into his 90s without changing the character and his backstory. Same thing for Professor X since his story is a polar opposite parallel to Magneto.

They should stay the same race but the story has to be different to how they formed their views: militant pro-mutant vs integration with humans.