GHG
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Good point. Assassins Creed Unity was the same and the install size for that game was rather large as well from what I remember.
Project CARS 2 discussion thread (provisional release date: Septemberish 2017)
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Good point. Assassins Creed Unity was the same and the install size for that game was rather large as well from what I remember.
TylerDurden4321
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FM6 was ~80GB already with all dlc I think, FM7 is 200 more cars and more tracks.
AC Unity is also dynamic lighting with ToD during gameplay.
No, it requires 100GB of free HDD space to install
Wow, looks like someone is not friends with compression tools xD
I stand correctedNo, it requires 100GB of free HDD space to install
TylerDurden4321
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To calculate the prebaked lighting data Turn10 has an extra room full with computers linked together to make something like a supercomputer, the tracks with lighting data take up a lot of space. RaceRoom is also like 3 times the size of pCARS1 probably to some degree because of this.
Then again, FH3 has dynamic lighting and is also a huge install.
Super interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Ian Bell said recently on GTP that console versions of pcars 2 are 1080p/60 already with a few bits of slowdown in very stressful areas that are being worked on to optimise. And this is with an identical feature set to the PC version (LiveTrack 3.0, seasons etc). Performance surpasses Pcars 1 even though a lot more is going on.
There were no actual dynamic Time of Day transitions in ACU. There were different weather types that changed the look but Unity used a lot of baked lighting data which took up a lot of storage space, and is the reason why it looks better than AC:Syndicate
Notice the environment shadow cast never move when the sunlight is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVyXB1pSRdE
GHG
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Was just about to post this as I just finished watching it. Very, very high praise from Inside Sim Racing.
On a side note, the Thrustmaster Sparco stuff looks great as well.
For those interested in VR, yes, I can confirm there are supersampling options in the game.
High praise indeed.
TylerDurden4321
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Heh, John really flew out in that corner we were talking about (at 5:31).
TylerDurden4321
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Wow, I was just regurgitating what another gaffer said. Never played ACU, just Syndicate, which definitely was dynamic (as you said as well).
Yeah, I noticed as well. It's not an easy turn if you don't know what's coming.
From the YT comments:
soundscream
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You better don't bet an arm and a leg.
TylerDurden4321
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$650, pretty sure. The TS-PC is $500, minus the cheap rim, but plus the sparco rim (original width is 33cm, costs $250, Thrustmaster model is 31cm), plus a mass produced discount, plus wheel-eletronics and pedal shifters... $650.
But 31cm is larger than any other Thrustmaster wheel and it looks thicker and weightier too. Too much angular mass and a longer lever => its FFB is not gonna feel as good as the 599xx. That sparco add-on wheel needs a stronger wheelbase. Of course I could be wrong, maybe it's really lightweight and that 1cm mire is not much. Then again, my T500 would ideally should be stronger on the max force already(not comparing the fidelity, there my T500 doesn't stand a chance even against the TX just peak constant force at stall) and that has a 65W motor against the 45W motor of the TS-PC.
GHG
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Of course they are. More info on it here:
https://youtu.be/13kFgrSyQYQ
PC/Xbox compatible, Q4 release date, no pricing yet.
It's most likely I'll get the T300RS later this year so I hope they start selling Sparco rims that will be compatible with that.
mercenar1e
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i wonder how many people have a financial interest in this game being a commercial success. i know the first game was open to everyone and hundreds if not thousands of people shared profits but this time the entrance was bumped up to $50,000+
did the devs talk about it at all?
did the devs talk about it at all?
GHG
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You don't get any profits from being a backer for the second game.
For those of us who opted in to the second game it enabled us to have a say on features for the game and to be able to play the game as it develops while giving feedback.
If that's a concern of yours, don't preorder the game and only purchase it after the reviews are out.
mercenar1e
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GHG
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Have you seen where you're posting? In all seriousness, I don't think there are many people here with that kind of money laying around to invest in a bloody videogame.
Even outside of this forum, I can't imagine there would be more than a handful of people out there who would be willing to invest that sort of money into something like this. If I'm investing 50k into something a videogame is far down my list of priorities.
So on that basis, it's a bit of a silly concern to have.
TJP
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A good opening video from ISR andsome good praise for pCARS 2. Can only benefit the sim racing genre for SMS to produce something special.
soundscream
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If I was spending $500 (I am clubsport v2.5) I dont think I would be ok with all that plastic.
I wonder how big is the integrity of those with such concerns.
Nords with fog/rain in VR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6CRrupTAzo
MrFrankFontaine
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Oh man. Love hearing the good impressions from ISR. Getting excited now for the September release. Sounds like Slightly Mad has taken a lot of the feedback to heart and is going to make a hell of a game.
The hype has me ordering a few things to upgrade my racing rig. Right now, I'm rocking a G29, Playseat Challange and a Rift. Going to add the shifter and attach some tranducers to the seat for some rumble. Should be a fun project and I have plenty of time to get it done.
That generally looks great but I can't quite put my finger on it - something looks a little 'off' in that video.
It might be the perfectly consistent density of the fog perhaps? I'm sure I've seen pCARS 2 footage with variable volumetrics (pockets of mist with different densities, misty squally rain blowing across the track etc) so maybe that is it. I know it's not the case here but my initial impressions from this video was that the fog was there as the age-old trick to hide pop-in on the horizon, a permanent 'cloud' that remains a set distance from your view at all times. I never got the impression that I was travelling *through* the fog. It felt more like I was chasing after it (but never catching it) if that makes sense?
Maybe it would look more convincing if there were pockets where the fog clears (or thins out, at least) and there were brief glimpses of blue skies before being plunged back into denser murk (eg at higher points on the track before dropping back into low-lying areas where mist and fog generally accumulates). It's all a bit uniform, a bit consistent at the moment. Variable fog density and the subsequent changing light levels would help this footage burst into life, I think.
Yeah I know - WIP and all that. But the clock is ticking. pCARS 2 is a beautiful game so maybe I'm nitpicking here.
The feedback I've been hearing about pCARS 2 gives me really high hopes for the game. I was skeptical after pCARS 1 (even though I'm in early access for pCARS 2, go figure), but the amount of positive stuff coming out of E3 is great.
Now I just wish my PC could actually run the early access builds...
Now I just wish my PC could actually run the early access builds...
TJP
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Another video (posted in the R3E forum): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVW3o38-NsM
Damn you, Gods of Gaming! Don't make me buy another fucking FFB wheel!
*shakes fist at sky*
soundscream
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Good. This along with the positive ISR force feedback video is renewing some confidence in this again.
Oh fuck yes. I re-mounted my Driving Force GT last night. This year is amazing.
From the interview said:
If anything, I take the statement as encouraging, because I think it would be easy enough for the sake of PR to just say the Pro version will have [whatever], but this indicates there's still efforts behind the scenes to decide how it should scale for target performance.
Colbert
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resolution on ps4 pro will depend on how high they can go without sacrifice the frame rate.
whispers xbox one x still have some head room, do not know if true
I really, really hope SMS are prioritising Turn 10 levels of unflinching performance with the frame rate. Dips and stutters in racing games are like little people standing on your nose and kicking your eyes in the balls.
Buy a gaming PC already.
Sounds like I don't need to now..!
You'll regret when you join WMD3, lol.Sounds like I don't need to now..!
Have SMS announced it yet, or is that next week..?
No announcement, nor I know whether there'll be a WMD3. But if there is, you'll regret not having a gaming PC xDHave SMS announced it yet, or is that next week..?
I'm still giving it serious thought (and research) but probably won't make a decision until September /October.
Looks like I'll be buying a x1x