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Protein products typically contain between 15 and 25 grams of protein per serving (although some do contain more). By comparison, a 5-ounce container of plain, nonfat Greek yogurt has around 17 grams of protein, and 3.5 ounces of chicken breast has 31 grams.

This was mentioned in the Consumer Reports article on this. So for anyone that's going to switch off of protein powders, this is a way to get your protein.

What's semen taste like?

Is the taste going to be more off putting or the work load? (heh)
Semen has about 252 mg of protein per 5ml serving (which is the average amount of per ejaculation). So to replace protein powder you are going to need to suck a whole lot of dicks every day.

 

[TacosNSalsa]

I'm actually a bit surprised at the top 5 . When I was body building I remember Body Fortress being kinda made fun of for being a crap brand , not the worst mind you but definitely low tier. Optimum not being there is a bit of shock to , they were the exact opposite.

Edit: Ah now I remember what it was , they were accused of amino spiking ,..think there was even a lawsuit

 

[Roufianos]

Eesh, always wondered about the side effects. Think I'll cut them out from now on.

 

[poppabk]

It's coming from the plants and milk used to make the powder. So eating the foods to get the same amount of protein would result in consuming more of the harmful chemicals and heavy metals etc. Seems like a non story.

 

[poppabk]

The issue is the heavy metals. The way most food is processed doesn't result in heavy metal contamination, but it does with the production of protein powders.

It's not coming from the processing it's coming from the ingredients. If you are getting the same amount of protein from meat or milk or plants you are consuming the same or more heavy metals.

 

[triplestation]

It's coming from the plants and milk used to make the powder. So eating the foods to get the same amount of protein would result in consuming more of the harmful chemicals and heavy metals etc. Seems like a non story.

I feel like someone would tell you there's more to it than that. But it does seem to be what's happening as far as I can tell.

 

[bati]

Breakfast takes 10 minutes (500g of Quark an three slices of crispbread. Dinner takes 30-40 minutes (800g of low-fat meat, potentially sauce / vegetables / pasta / whatever, depending on the specific meal) to eat.

Jesus. How the fuck do you gobble down 800g of meat in one sitting? And not get sick of it, day in day out? I'm fortunate enough to be able to eat the same food for months at the time but the thought of eating 800g in one sitting every fucking day makes me want to throw up. And why are you eating 250g per day at your weight? Are you on PEDs?

 

[gatti-man]

Buy protein powders that are actually lab tested and verified like Optimum nutrition and not the cheap shit or trendy shit. It’s not just protein powders either, tons of preworkout sand vitamins have junk in them too.

 

[Later Alligator]

Jesus. How the fuck do you gobble down 800g of meat in one sitting? And not get sick of it, day in day out? I'm fortunate enough to be able to eat the same food for months at the time but the thought of eating 800g in one sitting every fucking day makes me want to throw up. And why are you eating 250g per day at your weight? Are you on PEDs?

he weighs less than 150 lbs, if he's on PEDs he should get a refund lol

most people over estimate the amount of protein they are actually consuming

 

[bati]

he weighs less than 150 lbs, if he's on PEDs he should get a refund lol

most people over estimate the amount of protein they are actually consuming

I think he's straight up trolling with these numbers to be honest. 15 years of training, 66kg, 250g of brotein per day, 800g of meat at once, lmao. On the off chance that he's not, I'm guessing he's like 5 feet tall and trains for 6 to 8 hours every day.

 

[bati]

As for the topic itself, I will continue to wash down cans of tuna with brotein shakes every day. Gotta die of something, might as well be mercury and lead poisoning.

 

[AnotherOne]

Get outa my whey!.

 

[Constant Flux]

No protein powders for me, so I'm off the hook. Just dodged a bullet. Whew!

 

[Tesseract]

i just chugged two monster glasses of dark chocolate plant protein

fuck it

 

[Constant Flux]

i just chugged two monster glasses of dark chocolate plant protein

fuck it

You're such a rebel.

 

[Tesseract]

You're such a rebel.

 

[Constant Flux]

 

[Yoshi]

Jesus. How the fuck do you gobble down 800g of meat in one sitting? And not get sick of it, day in day out?

I am pretty hungry and I like meat. Also, there are a lot of different dishes you can make with meat.

And why are you eating 250g per day at your weight?

Because if I eat less food I lose weight and am still hungry.

Are you on PEDs?

No, I avoid supplements, why would I take PEDs then? Sports is just a hobby, I have no interest in wrecking my health with it.

On the off chance that he's not, I'm guessing he's like 5 feet tall and trains for 6 to 8 hours every day.

1.7m, 2 hours three times a week. As I said it is a hobby, nothing more.

 

[Tesseract]

i eat about 1 to 1.5xg / pound / day and i train like a demon from hell

but i also inject steroids into my eyeballs

 

[GymWolf]

Can i just use some of these high metal protein and then get 27 milions like yoel romero for tainted supplements??

 

[SidViscous]

Everything has plastic in it, it rains plastic at the north fucking pole, I need to be big and swole so I can be the alpha male when the plastics destroy our ecosystem.

 

[Cunth]

I saw the research where it was you would get close to daily recommended limits of those metals if you have 3 protein shakes a day. Who has that many

 

[Tesseract]

Everything has plastic in it, it rains plastic at the north fucking pole, I need to be big and swole so I can be the alpha male when the plastics destroy our ecosystem.

agreed

I saw the research where it was you would get close to daily recommended limits of those metals if you have 3 protein shakes a day. Who has that many

 

[triplestation]

i eat about 1 to 1.5xg / pound / day and i train like a demon from hell

but i also inject steroids into my eyeballs

 

[triplestation]

I saw the research where it was you would get close to daily recommended limits of those metals if you have 3 protein shakes a day. Who has that many

 

[O-N-E]

You'll be walking like this soon, Tess.

What a glorious site.

 

[womfalcs3]

In addition to what was said: eat nuts, eat nut butters.

 

[Cunth]

In addition to what was said: eat nuts, eat nut butters.

hehe nut butter

 

[Tesseract]

nuts are kinda garbo tbh, you'll never get shredded out of your mind to the point where the pentagon hires (captures) you for ultra violence experiments that way

 

[Cunth]

I eat nuts quite a bit as a healthy snack, but not especially for their protein content

 

[Skyr]

Ye a lot of foods contain traces of metals and toxins. Doesn’t mean that these amounts are gonna damage your health in any significant way.

And lol at eating 220+ grams of protein at 66kg of bodyweight. That’s ridiculous. You don’t have anywhere near the amount of muscle mass that would require this amount to hold or gain more.
Half of that is sufficient to make gains. Your body is just gonna use this over abundance of protein to convert it back into glucose, which is inefficient. You are better off spending these calories for fats and carbohydrates.

 

[seanoff]

Ask yourself why you need to take protein powders. Look up what you actually need. Unless you are an super elite power athlete 1.5g/kg/day is plenty. Even then that maybe enough. If you eat a sensible balanced diet you are getting that number easily. A normal human not in heavy training needs a bit less tha 1g/kg/day.

Above that number, well. You dont store protein. So if you dont use it, you lose it.

A friend of mine, professor of medicine and a urologist when is asked him what high does protein powders did given the body rids itself of the excess.

“You get really expensive piss”

He is also firmly of the opinion that the powders are good for his business. Lots of people under 30 presenting with kidney problems.

If you are using them to bulk up. Eat more. Its probably cheaper.

 

[Skyr]

Ask yourself why you need to take protein powders. Look up what you actually need. Unless you are an super elite power athlete 1.5g/kg/day is plenty. Even then that maybe enough. If you eat a sensible balanced diet you are getting that number easily. A normal human not in heavy training needs a bit less tha 1g/kg/day.

Above that number, well. You dont store protein. So if you dont use it, you lose it.

A friend of mine, professor of medicine and a urologist when is asked him what high does protein powders did given the body rids itself of the excess.

“You get really expensive piss”

He is also firmly of the opinion that the powders are good for his business. Lots of people under 30 presenting with kidney problems.

If you are using them to bulk up. Eat more. Its probably cheaper.

You don’t really piss it out but your body is just utilizing it as an energy source by converting it into glucose.
That is an inefficient process tho and will impact your performance in a negative way, opposed to just consuming fats or carbohydrates instead.

 

[bati]

Ye a lot of foods contain traces of metals and toxins. Doesn’t mean that these amounts are gonna damage your health in any significant way.

And lol at eating 220+ grams of protein at 66kg of bodyweight. That’s ridiculous. You don’t have anywhere near the amount of muscle mass that would require this amount to hold or gain more.
Half of that is sufficient to make gains. Your body is just gonna use this over abundance of protein to convert it back into glucose, which is inefficient. You are better off spending these calories for fats and carbohydrates.

I just want to mention that Skyr is currently my favourite food. So good. The best.

 

[V4skunk]

People abuse protein powder, use it to substitute real food.

 

[Mrfudface]

Stick to real food at any given time. I have do admit, there were many times that I made myself a shake/smoothie, just because I hadn't really the time for it or the nerves to make my kitchen "dirty" after a shift in the kitchen (no pun needed). Sometimes you can't cover the needage, so you stick to supplements. Just don't be totally dependend on them.

 

[EverydayBeast]

I trust protien powder, it's just in a really bad spot where in the last few years everything is getting second-guessed. I'll take protien powder, building muscle, repair tissue etc. over whatever else is out there.

 

[V4skunk]

I trust protien powder, it's just in a really bad spot where in the last few years everything is getting second-guessed. I'll take protien powder, building muscle, repair tissue etc. over whatever else is out there.

I guarantee that some one who eats fish, chicken and red meats with lots of vegetables and fruits has more raw stamina than some one that takes the powder with a poor diet.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

Back to the eggy farts all day long then. Sorry Mrs Dave!

 

[Tesseract]

Back to the eggy farts all day long then. Sorry Mrs Dave!

oh hell yeah fart those eggs but don't forget to work out them legs

 

[mcjmetroid]

Fuck it. I have trouble eating the suggested amount of protein Lord knows I've tried.

I have 2 shakes a day and now I'm about 66k as well I was way way less only about 6 months ago.

I'm in the best shape of my life because of it. Don't get me wrong there's room for improvement but from a really skinny guy to a toned lad is a nice change.

 

[triplestation]

came back from the gym and ate a turkey sandwich with a skim milkshake (2 cups) with a banana in it (normally i'd drop a scoop of way into this)

eggs in the morning, chicken dinner still awaits

feels funny not taking advantage of that quick scoop but i'm looking to see how this will go

 

[EverydayBeast]

I guarantee that some one who eats fish, chicken and red meats with lots of vegetables and fruits has more raw stamina than some one that takes the powder with a poor diet.

Of course. I got a feeling most people, athletes, body builders whomever who drink protien also have other sources of protien, like the few you mentioned, fish, chicken, red meats, vegetables, fruits.

 

[triplestation]

I got my two sons, both identical twins, and carried out a study over a year. Both did starting strength from beginners and trained on exactly the same days and with the the exact same intensity. However, one of my sons took regular whey protein shakes (1.5 gram of protein per lb lean mass daily) and creatine, whereas the other son didn't monitor protein at all and didn't take any supplements.

At the end of the year both of my twin sons weighed exactly the same, and we're the exact same size. They were also equal in strength. The only thing the whey protein gave my son was a bad stomach and wind.

Once obtaining these results I shouted in the gym on a busy Thursday evening that whey protein and creatine was a scam. The owner got angry at me and ordered me to leave. However, I was outraged at at his scamming ways so I threw a 20k dumbell at the treadmill, smashing the panel and damaging the belt then kicked supplement stand over scattering the placebo powder all over the place, before escaping through the fire exit.

So there you have it. Yes, I only used a sample of two, but I am convinced my results are accurate. I now need to find a way of making the gym owner refund me for all that useless protein powder and creatine.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170483991&page=1

 

[poppabk]

I guarantee that some one who eats fish, chicken and red meats with lots of vegetables and fruits has more raw stamina than some one that takes the powder with a poor diet.

I also guarantee that they are getting at least as much heavy metal contamination as someone drinking whey protein.
For example

Human exposure to lead, cadmium and mercury through fish and seafood product consumption in Italy: a pilot evaluation - PubMed

The presence of selected toxic heavy metals, such as cadmium (Cd), lead (Pb) and mercury (Hg), was investigated in fish and seafood products, namely, blue mussel, carpet shell clam, European squid, veined squid, deep-water rose shrimp, red mullet, European seabass, gilthead seabream, Atlantic...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'll repeat what I said earlier in the thread - the contamination is coming mainly from the original food source - milk, eggs or plant. You get likely a higher amount from eating the actual food as it is less purified. I don't drink whey protein much anymore, but the obsession with it being something bad, worthless or somehow 'cheating' to get protein in your diet is weird.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Nutrient absorption is getting more and more attention as we learn more about human digestion, and I think protein powders fall into that topic too.

You can take 2,000mg of magnesium, for instance, but how much will you absorb versus how much will you piss out? If it's magesium oxide, you'll piss out a lot of it. If it's magnesium citrate or malate, you'll piss out less and absorb more. Vitamin C is similar: as ascorbic acid, it's modestly digestible, but as sodium ascorbate, it is highly digestible.

Proteins separated from their source food are going to suffer from similar absorption issues, especially if the source is a waste byproduct (whey) from chemical separation. The protein has to be stabilized in a form that prevents decomposition, yet has to retain the beneficial properties of the molecule/compound.

To put it another way, if ambient microbes aren't interested in eating the powder because the proteins have been denatured, how well will the microbes in your gut digest the proteins? Oh, you get gassy from regular consumption of protein powder? Well of course. You're pumping your intestines full of material that can only be broken down inefficiently, producing a ton of waste gas.

Realistic amounts of food-based digestible protein > high amounts of artificially-derived protein.

 

[mckmas8808]

I also guarantee that they are getting at least as much heavy metal contamination as someone drinking whey protein.
For example

Human exposure to lead, cadmium and mercury through fish and seafood product consumption in Italy: a pilot evaluation - PubMed

The presence of selected toxic heavy metals, such as cadmium (Cd), lead (Pb) and mercury (Hg), was investigated in fish and seafood products, namely, blue mussel, carpet shell clam, European squid, veined squid, deep-water rose shrimp, red mullet, European seabass, gilthead seabream, Atlantic...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'll repeat what I said earlier in the thread - the contamination is coming mainly from the original food source - milk, eggs or plant. You get likely a higher amount from eating the actual food as it is less purified. I don't drink whey protein much anymore, but the obsession with it being something bad, worthless or somehow 'cheating' to get protein in your diet is weird.

Whoa! See you seem smart by not allowing the headlines scare you. How often are headlines created comparing your average food at your every day supermarket's lead level to other supermarkets? We should be asking ourselves, what's an acceptable amount of lead or mercury that we can eat or drink per day.

Nutrient absorption is getting more and more attention as we learn more about human digestion, and I think protein powders fall into that topic too.

You can take 2,000mg of magnesium, for instance, but how much will you absorb versus how much will you piss out? If it's magesium oxide, you'll piss out a lot of it. If it's magnesium citrate or malate, you'll piss out less and absorb more. Vitamin C is similar: as ascorbic acid, it's modestly digestible, but as sodium ascorbate, it is highly digestible.

Proteins separated from their source food are going to suffer from similar absorption issues, especially if the source is a waste byproduct (whey) from chemical separation. The protein has to be stabilized in a form that prevents decomposition, yet has to retain the beneficial properties of the molecule/compound.

To put it another way, if ambient microbes aren't interested in eating the powder because the proteins have been denatured, how well will the microbes in your gut digest the proteins? Oh, you get gassy from regular consumption of protein powder? Well of course. You're pumping your intestines full of material that can only be broken down inefficiently, producing a ton of waste gas.

Realistic amounts of food-based digestible protein > high amounts of artificially-derived protein.

Of course the bolded is true, but it's also more expensive too. And it takes longer to make and consume. That's the problem most of us run into. Plus you become less gassy if you drink protein powders with water or non-lactose milk.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Of course the bolded is true, but it's also more expensive too. And it takes longer to make and consume. That's the problem most of us run into. Plus you become less gassy if you drink protein powders with water or non-lactose milk.

I don't know if it's more expensive or less expensive. I'd have to look deeper into that. The logic is that a smaller total amount of highly-available protein (or [insert desired nutrient here] since the concept seems to be universal) will have the same or better effect as a high total amount of cheap, less-digestible protein.

 

[eddie4]

forget that protein powder, i just eat a whole lamb

 

[mckmas8808]

I don't know if it's more expensive or less expensive. I'd have to look deeper into that. The logic is that a smaller total amount of highly-available protein (or [insert desired nutrient here] since the concept seems to be universal) will have the same or better effect as a high total amount of cheap, less-digestible protein.

I think the bolded has been proven true. So, you are right there. But less convenience due to taking more time to cook and prepare it kinda hurts. Plus it really matters how much food cost in your area and each person's access to lean chicken, turkey and other meat proteins.

Sometimes the cost comes in needing to travel to the market more often, when just buying a tub of protein once a month is more cost-effective (transportation wise).