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[Croatoan]

Bought a Xbox One on Black Friday and the first game I downloaded was SMITE. I played the PC beta years back and remembered liking it but have gotten away from keyboard and mouse gaming. Jumping back in I can't believe how well it works with a controller. I mean, its not perfect (controls are too floaty which is due to it being a port) but its the best MOBA effort on console I have seen yet.

I have a feeling that a third person style moba designed from the ground up for a console would be way better than SMITE though. I am not talking about LoL or DOTA style games here. I am talking a third person shooter/action game moba with a crap ton of characters.

The only other console moba like this is Gigantic right? Which is also a Xbox one exclusive. Sony really needs to attract more f2p efforts IMO. Particularly a big moba (kill strain doesn't look like it is going to be this).

ps. Overwatch isn't a moba (more like tf2).

 

[Trace]

MOBAs on console are in general a bad idea, you're never really going to move past what Smite is doing.

 

[Croatoan]

MOBAs on console are in general a bad idea, you're never really going to move past what Smite is doing.

Care to explain why?

To me you could make a moba with a character controller similar to Saints Row 3 and 4. That would feel a ton better than SMITE.

 

[Footos22]

Killstrains coming.

 

[viHuGi]

Smite on Ps4 would be awesome.

 

[Arion]

Would be nice. But not Smite specifically. Something like that but with a better art style.

 

[sixteen-bit]

PSASBR2?

 

[STEaMkb]

SMITE for PS4?

I noticed that Harris let slip the plural of console providers--did that mean we could see Smite on PS4 sometime soon?

"So at this point we've announced that Smite is coming first to Xbox One, but certainly after that we'll be considering other consoles," Harris answered.

Source

 

[Gaz_RB]

Care to explain why?

To me you could make a moba with a character controller similar to Saints Row 3 and 4. That would feel a ton better than SMITE.

Pour one out for Monday Night Combat, everyone.

 

[Croatoan]

SMITE for PS4?



Source

Haha nice find.

Pour one out for Monday Night Combat, everyone.

Heh, the maps were too small and the melee combat was worse than SMITE . Plus most of the character art sucked.

PSASBR2?

Would be a perfect fit. Too logical to actually happen though.

 

[delSai]

King of Wushu is coming, isnt it? That looked similar.

 

[KarmaCow]

Pour one out for Monday Night Combat, everyone.

Super Monday Night Combat was even more MOBA like but also failed pretty hard.

 

[alienator]

the ps4 does not need something like SMITE.. at all.

I could play it on a pc if it interrested me. but no single mobo does that.

 

[Hexa]

King of Wushu is coming to PS4 in the west in the near future. It looks pretty cool.

 

[reKon]

Bought a Xbox One on Black Friday and the first game I downloaded was SMITE. I played the PC beta years back and remembered liking it but have gotten away from keyboard and mouse gaming. Jumping back in I can't believe how well it works with a controller. I mean, its not perfect (controls are too floaty which is due to it being a port) but its the best MOBA effort on console I have seen yet.

I have a feeling that a third person style moba designed from the ground up for a console would be way better than SMITE though. I am not talking about LoL or DOTA style games here. I am talking a third person shooter/action game moba with a crap ton of characters.

The only other console moba like this is Gigantic right? Which is also a Xbox one exclusive. Sony really needs to attract more f2p efforts IMO. Particularly a big moba (kill strain doesn't look like it is going to be this).

ps. Overwatch isn't a moba (more like tf2).

well it already has quite a few big f2p games, unless you're talking MOBA only..

 

[OdysseusVA]

Smite for PS4 would be dope.

 

[Slixshot]

I just want Overwatch and I want it now.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

OP, are you in the beta for Gigantic? I'm enjoying that on the Xbox more than the time I put into Smite.

 

[Azzurri]

Gigantic is also coming to X1 which is a fun game.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Smite on Xbone is awesome. I would certainly play it a lot on PS4 as well.

 

[notaskwid]

the ps4 does not need something like SMITE.. at all.

I could play it on a pc if it interrested me. but no single mobo does that.

"Because I don't want it nobody needs it".

 

[Generalpsyduck]

Care to explain why?

To me you could make a moba with a character controller similar to Saints Row 3 and 4. That would feel a ton better than SMITE.

Lack of chat is a major limitation

 

[Gowans]

I'm sure it will come.

Smite has been amazing on Xbox, community is always there and I've even managed to get my squad playing it thanks to it being free. Once they got over the jump they were in.

Loving the monthly updates too.

 

[bounchfx]

MOBAs on console are in general a bad idea, you're never really going to move past what Smite is doing.

in what way?

sorry but all I see here is 'I have no ideas on how that style of game could evolve to fit console more'

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

OP, are you in the beta for Gigantic? I'm enjoying that on the Xbox more than the time I put into Smite.

Consigning

 

[Sumio Mondo]

Read that as "SMT" and was nodding thinking "Yes, SMT games". Then realised it was about a MOBA... Oh well.

 

[onQ123]

Trans-Galactic Tournament - Gameplay Trailer | PS4 ??

 

[gogosox82]

Why isn't Smite on ps4? I always wanted to play smite with a controller but it always feels weird and unresponsive and obviously you can't turn as fast as you can with a mouse so I always felt that I was at a disadvantage. If it was on the ps4, it would be great since I wouldn't feel like I'm hamstringing myself by playing with a controller.

 

[delSai]

Trans-Galactic Tournament - Gameplay Trailer | PS4 ??

That one's pretty fun actually

 

[RobNBanks]

in what way?

sorry but all I see here is 'I have no ideas on how that style of game could evolve to fit console more'

pc too primitive

 

[sh1fty]

Sony really needs to attract more f2p efforts IMO.

Pretty sure Sony has actually offered a lot in terms of F2P options (DC Universe Online, Blacklight Retribution, Planetside 2, War Thunder etc.)

 

[Croatoan]

well it already has quite a few big f2p games, unless you're talking MOBA only..

What would you qualify as big?

Xbone's big ones are SMITE, Warframe, Killer Instinct, Neverwinter, Gigantic(in beta), and World of Tanks

PS4's are DC Universe, Warframe, Blacklight, Planetside 2, Loadout and War Thunder

PS4 does have two mobas but they are both really shameless League of Legend clones with horrible art styles and unimaginative combat.

The actual numbers are similar but the quality goes to Xbone on this one.

I am not trying to turn this into a pissing contest by the way. Just an observation by someone who owns both consoles.

OP, are you in the beta for Gigantic? I'm enjoying that on the Xbox more than the time I put into Smite.

No How does one get into that beta?

Lack of chat is a major limitation

Voice chat is better and the way Smite handles callouts is actually really nice (faster than typing MIA right lane even).

That one's pretty fun actually

I can play HotS, LoL or DOTA 2 if I want to go isometric

 

[gogosox82]

the ps4 does not need something like SMITE.. at all.

I could play it on a pc if it interrested me. but no single mobo does that.

So because you don't want it, no one else should get it? That's an...interesting opinion.

MOBAs on console are in general a bad idea, you're never really going to move past what Smite is doing.

Care to explain why? No one even thought something like smite was possible until Hi-Rez made smite. Some dev team could come up with something works on a console. Not saying it would happen in this generation but it could in future generations.

Lack of chat is a major limitation

Well no one really talks in smite anyway. Most people just use the vgs system and I'm assuming you can use that on the consoles. If you have a vgs system like smite has, you don't really need a chat.

 

[Croatoan]

So because you don't want it, no one else should get it? That's an...interesting opinion.



Care to explain why? No one even thought something like smite was possible until Hi-Rez made smite. Some dev team could come up with something works on a console. Not saying it would happen in this generation but it could in future generations.



Well no one really talks in smite anyway. Most people just use the vgs system and I'm assuming you can use that on the consoles. If you have a vgs system like smite has, you don't really need a chat.

I agree the VGS system is pretty excellent.

I still think a moba with a character controller like saints row would work well. Then again I absolutely adore the controller in those games and feel it should be used in others (red faction also used a similar character controller).

Basically, melee characters get the traditional action game orbit camera and ranged characters get limited to a locked camera when attacking or aiming (would have orbit when not attacking or aiming though).

 

[mcz117chief]

Well...we have Invokers Tournament and in my opinion it is terrible, so I am very sceptical we will actually get a decent moba on PS4. The Lord of the Rings one on PS3 wasn't too bad, maybe the Trans Galactic tournament won't be terrible as well.

King of Wushu is coming, isnt it? That looked similar.

oh yeah, this one actually looks pretty decent

 

[Kalavaras]

How does xbone Smite handle the picks and bans? Do people just quietly pick what they want? If thats the case, no thanks.

Voice chat is trash compared to text chat. FFXIV and MH3U did amazing job with text chat and Ive hard time understanding why we cant get the option of having a text based chat.

 

[klaushm]

What would you qualify as big?

Xbone's big ones are SMITE, Warframe, Killer Instinct, Neverwinter, Gigantic(in beta), and World of Tanks

PS4's are DC Universe, Warframe, Blacklight, Planetside 2, Loadout and War Thunder

PS4 does have two mobas but they are both really shameless League of Legend clones with horrible art styles and unimaginative combat.

The actual numbers are similar but the quality goes to Xbone on this one.

I am not trying to turn this into a pissing contest by the way. Just an observation by someone who owns both consoles.

(...)

I can play HotS, LoL or DOTA 2 if I want to go isometric

So, in the end

Spoiler

it doesn't even matter

you just want Smite on PS4? I think and hope it will get it.

Both have big f2p, with a huge number of players, but PS4 lacks a non-isometric moba. Hope it gets what you want.

Until then... there is killstrain which is IMO an awesome fast-paced moba. But there is always the problem with players been afk... Nothing can be done here.

 

[Cyber Caesar]

We need King of Wushu on American PSN.

 

[Iorv3th]

What about battleborn? It's a FPS MOBA I thought.

 

[Croatoan]

What about battleborn? It's a FPS MOBA I thought.

I wish I could explain what Battleborn is or isn't but unfortunately I signed an NDA.

 

[BananasWithGuns]

What about battleborn? It's a FPS MOBA I thought.

Yeah, it is.

In my opinion it's worth looking into for people that really want a MOBA experience on their PS4.

 

[jon bones]

word, i'd love a casual console moba for ps4

What about battleborn? It's a FPS MOBA I thought.

yeah but that looks booty

 

[Hyperfludd]

Mannnn. I wish Super Monday Night Combat was more successful. Would have loved to see that 3D Moba-type on consoles today.

For PS4 though, if you're willing to change the 3D plane to a 2D one..I have an easy recommendation for you.

 

[Croatoan]

So, in the end

Spoiler

it doesn't even matter

you just want Smite on PS4? I think and hope it will get it.

Both have big f2p, with a huge number of players, but PS4 lacks a non-isometric moba. Hope it gets what you want.

Until then... there is killstrain which is IMO an awesome fast-paced moba. But there is always the problem with players been afk... Nothing can be done here.

Hah, I mean sure but I would rather have a game tailored to a console that is similar to SMITE. SMITE itself has issues because it was never originally designed for consoles (if that makes sense).

I have already talked about the controls and how they could be improved but some other improvements would be:

3 skills and a passive (not 4 and a passive, not enough buttons on the controller really, LB, RB, LB+RB are all that are needed for skills) .
Team experience (like HotS) and not individual experience.
Multiple 2/3 Lane Maps with Objectives (like HotS Maps).
Better character controller (like I have mentioned).
More interesting setting and art style (Modern Super Heroes? Sci-Fi? Mascot Mashup?).
Possibly go to a HotS style level system instead of items (this is debatable and would be fine either way).

Looking at that list what I really want is SMITE/HotS with a costumed Super Hero theme and a great tps/ag controller.

 

[Psychoward]

Monday Night Combat and Awesomenauts are both great

 

[HamPster PamPster]

Orcs Must Die: Unchained is a MOBA (or moba-ish anyway) coming to PS4/consoles. I'm looking forward to it even if I'm sad to see the series leave the tower defense genre. Anyone play it on PC? I think its in some form of preorder beta.

 

[Freeman]

PSASBR2?

Third person moba game where you unlock characters using NFC figurines or platinuing games.

 

[STEaMkb]

Xbone's big ones are SMITE, Warframe, Killer Instinct, Neverwinter, Gigantic(in beta), and World of Tanks

PS4's are DC Universe, Warframe, Blacklight, Planetside 2, Loadout and War Thunder

World of Tanks is in beta on PS4 this month.

And there is more on the way...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games#Free-to-play

 

[onQ123]

Guess Epic heard your cry

Paragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gw9fJGKvcc

 

[Slixshot]

Guess Epic heard your cry

Paragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gw9fJGKvcc

And it looks so sick