I don't see how you can say that after claiming verbatim every time you launch a game on PC, it's a problem.
People don't buy consoles for ultimate performance because they don't have the option. Pro consoles exists to be closer to ultimate performance. And no one ever said PC gaming is perfect. It is just the closest to perfection by far.
www.eurogamer.net
PS5 Pro won't be getting FSR4 in its exact same form:
Mark Cerny: FSR 4 for PS5 Pro is the "next evolution of PSSR"
Last week, AMD released its new wave of graphics hardware, developed around the new RDNA 4 architecture. Machine learni…
Emphasis on the "very similar".
Edit: I think so long as it represents a big improvement over PSSR, most will be happy with this.
if it is exactly the same it could already be out already for some non RDNA4 GPUs and PS5 Pro.Sorry buddy, you are wrong. The algorythm is exactly the same
Check my post in the previous page...
This is the latest interview from July 1st, you are not up to date...
PS5 Pro is getting a big upgrade in 2026 — I asked Mark Cerny what’s coming, and why AMD’s future PC GPUs feel more 'PlayStation' than ever
Sony's Mark Cerny explains how AMD and Project Amethyst contributed to the PS5 Pro's impending 2026 upgradewww.tomsguide.com
"The algorithm they came up with could be implemented on current-generation hardware, so the co-developed algorithm has already been released by AMD as part of FSR 4 on PC. And we're in the process of implementing it on PS5 and it will release next year on PS5 Pro."
"It's not a cut-down [version] of the algorithm," he explained. "It's the full-fat version of the co-developed super...
For you. Not everybody is looking for the same things as you or values the same things as you so perfection is different for each person.
Nope. Perfect IQ, perfect performance, perfect controls, etc are not subjective things.
You are such an insufferable little clown.
Nice argument. /s
You mean a console is going to be using something custom made for it? I'm shocked! SHOCKED!PS5 Pro won't be getting FSR4 in its exact same form:
Mark Cerny: FSR 4 for PS5 Pro is the "next evolution of PSSR"
Last week, AMD released its new wave of graphics hardware, developed around the new RDNA 4 architecture. Machine learni…
Emphasis on the "very similar".
Edit: I think so long as it represents a big improvement over PSSR, most will be happy with this.
So when you said "PS5 Pro ray-tracing hardware is better than a RX 9070 Vanilla", you meant that if 9070 owners downclocked their cards to match the PS5 Pro's clocks, the Pro would be faster?
Sorry buddy, you are wrong. The algorythm is exactly the same
Check my post in the previous page...
This is the latest interview from July 1st, you are not up to date...
PS5 Pro is getting a big upgrade in 2026 — I asked Mark Cerny what’s coming, and why AMD’s future PC GPUs feel more 'PlayStation' than ever
Sony's Mark Cerny explains how AMD and Project Amethyst contributed to the PS5 Pro's impending 2026 upgrade
"The algorithm they came up with could be implemented on current-generation hardware, so the co-developed algorithm has already been released by AMD as part of FSR 4 on PC. And we're in the process of implementing it on PS5 and it will release next year on PS5 Pro."
"It's not a cut-down [version] of the algorithm," he explained. "It's the full-fat version of the co-developed super...
www.pcgamesn.com
That's meaningless with RDNA 4.0 CU's double texture capability and next-gen WMMA. AMD RT is reliant on the texture I/O path, and it's double the performance on RDNA 4.0.
Funny how he keeps dancing around that factually incorrect claim.
As has been pointed out, reported AMD (and Nvidia) clocks speeds are conservative. The 9070 operates between 2.7-2.8 GHz, which means 310-321 TOPs. It also has FP8 capability which the PS5 Pro lacks entirely.
This is completely irrelevant. The performance gap between the 9070 and the Pro is almost as large as the one between the Pro and base PS5, so I don't even know what you're arguing.
I thought it was 26?
How do we find out? The page on AMD says single but not sure if it's talking about the same thing.
Single precision refers to the 32 bit floating point operations (FP32). RDNA4 has the ability to use VOPD to run double FP32 per compute unit. So 13.1 TF becomes 26.2 TF, but it is still of limited use in games as far as I know. Hence the 13.1 TF is likely more accurate.
Does Nvidia do the double stuff as well or is it just AMD?
Nvidia is a bit different, the SM has the capability to issue two FP32 instructions at once, which it can actually execute as once. It works fine for games but the performance is not really double as not everything the GPU or SM is doubled as well. So the AMD approach requires specific workloads and compiler optimisations while Nvidia has consistent benefits and doesn't require games to change to take advantage of it.
Not exactly the same, but the logic is similar (in that the number doesn't tell the whole story) and Jensen tried to sell you the TFLOPs number as being relevant to gaming. That's why the 35 TFLOPs 3090 isn't almost 3x the performance of the 13 TFLOPs 2080 Ti.
Sparsity is a major feature with machine learning.
Who thrashed Cerny for this lol?Of course they do: bigger numbers sell better...
Remember the whole 33.5 TFlops about the PS5 Pro? Cerny never used it in official presentations and was trashed for it... LOL
It's the world reversed: when you say the truth, now you become a liar
NVIDIA didn't double texture sampling resources with their double FP32 resources. RDNA 4.0 doubled FP32 and doubled texture sampling. NVIDIA focused on FP4 and FP6 tensors.
PS5 Pro lacks sparsity and FP8. PS5 Pro is a generation behind NVIDIA's Ampere's tensor cores' sparsity and two generations behind ADA Love Lace's FP8 tensor core improvements. RDNA 4.0 introduces both sparsity and FP8 features for the Radeon family.
2080 Ti has 13 TIOPS and 13 TFLOPS. Ampere SM's integer cores gain FP32 support. No increase in texture resource on a per SM basis.
I'm a PC gamer since 1999, i would not describe PC gaming performance as "perfect", especially in the days of non-existant optimizations, shader/traversal stutters and UE5.
Too bad NV dropped SLI. I'm sure you could bruteforce UE5 titles with 4x5090 in SLI while pulling 4KW from the socket.
SLI would have made the stutters even worse.
It was a joke.
I know the 4x4090 in SLI was, but there's a legitimate discussion to be had about SLI powering through UE5 games Ultra settings/RT if it was still a thing.
Read all the discussion. No one said PC gaming has perfect anything.
