PS5 specs revealed. Up to 10.2 Tflops.

PhoReal said:
Why is that?
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PS5 is at it's peak in design. I don't see it happening in 2-3yrs. It took them several years just to get to where they are now.

It might have 2 SKUs but I think this one is the top of the line. I don't see a cost advantage with adding more silicon for very little money.
 
Psykodad said:
Question for the tech-savvy:

XSX has better CPU and GPU
PS5 has 3D Audio and 2x faster SSD

And RAM equals out?


Have to hand it to MS, they have strong hand going into next-gen and they're smart for not doing a Series S.
I still stand by what I said, that MS will have an issue selling Xbox if they release both a Series X and S and PS5 is sitting in the middle (all priced accordingly), but rn it's gonna be a competitive race again. Lol
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ram wins in MS
 
Real_Agent_K said:
Jesus Cerny Christ, thats even worse then... GG Xbox.
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You need to compare them in %, raw TF gives you shit results, 1.8TF PS4 was ~40% faster than 1.3TF Xbox 1, XSX is ~20% (or more with "nonboost" speeds) faster than PS5 in GPU space.

GymWolf said:
wait even the ram is slower? not even on par?
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10GB of Xbox GDDR6 is faster than RAM speed in PS5 and this is a chunk that will be used by GPU and some CPU tasks probably while 6GB that are slower will be for OS and other CPU tasks. Xbox has split RAM pool in some sense.

Xbox is clearly better in almost all fronts, it looks like Sony was struggling to cool this device and came up with some power saver feratures that will slow down the console for more demanding games while MS just said "fuck it" and put some big ass heatsink with large fan and called it a day :messenger_sunglasses:
 
Bladed Thesis said:
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How is it shifting goal posts? Reasons to buy consoles: GAMES. It's not like I was even one of those naysayers who were saying the specs would be better than xbox. Sony won with less specs last gen as well?
 
I hereby apologize to everyone I mocked. The PS5 is indeed a piece of trash. A true generational leap would have required 12.88TF. A 10.3TF PS5 is a total joke. It's not even twice the TF of the XBox One X. There is no reason whatsoever to purchase a PS5. I thought that the PS5 would be a true generational leap with at least 7 times the TFLOPS of the previous console. But it turns out that Sony no longer cares about generational leaps. I was an idiot for belittling individuals who believed in GitHub. You were right. Repeatedly, I stated that people were morons for believing that Sony would launch a console that wasn't at least 12 TF or at least twice the power of the XBox One X. But I am the moron. As a lifelong fan of Sony, I owe everyone a huge apology. I now will be leaving gaming all together. The PS5 is not a true generational leap and the new XBox will likely require it to be connected to the internet at least once.
 
icerock said:
I took the quote that specific person on face value, didn't realize it was completely manufactured. My apologies.

And indeed, you're right. Series X clocks are locked, but PS5 has variable clocks, where they haven't revealed the base clocks. Very muddy presentation, will be interesting to see the response from here on.
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I believe the base clocks are 9.2, son.
 
Psykodad said:
Question for the tech-savvy:

XSX has better CPU and GPU
PS5 has 3D Audio and 2x faster SSD

And RAM equals out?


Have to hand it to MS, they have strong hand going into next-gen and they're smart for not doing a Series S.
I still stand by what I said, that MS will have an issue selling Xbox if they release both a Series X and S and PS5 is sitting in the middle (all priced accordingly), but rn it's gonna be a competitive race again. Lol
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Memory goes to Series X too, they have more bandwidth.

Sony are cheaper on basically every hardware part except cooling and SSD.
 
VFXVeteran said:
PS5 is at it's peak in design. I don't see it happening in 2-3yrs. It took them several years just to get to where they are now.

It might have 2 SKUs but I think this one is the top of the line. I don't see a cost advantage with adding more silicon for very little money.
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Changed your tune...
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leo-j said:
Mhm, it will have faster loading than Xbox. By a lot actually. Microsoft went for raw TFLOP power. Sony went for performance efficiency. Very android vs Apple imo.
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From what I see- Xbox gpu die- 25 percent more raw power, CPU slightly better in the Xbox, and Xbox memory clocked at higher frequency for games.

SSD better in the PS5, but storage capacity lot less at 800gb with MS at 1 terabyte.
 
Zefros said:
I think people are very much into the TF thing. They have a console that has much better SSD capabilites and people need to see this aspect more clearly. the TF alone isn't what makes the console best. it's everything around it. This console will probably land on 399- 449 USD.
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Do you even understand what Sony presented here ? They are basically giving theoretical peak clock speeds that will never be reached just to not look completely inferior to the XSX and still , with the unachievable (IMO) clock speeds, the ps5 has a slower cpu, a 2 TF weaker gpu, worse ram speed, basically everything but the ssd speed substantially worse EVEN WHEN AKNOWLEDGING JUST THE THEORETICAL PEAK CLOCK SPEEDS. In real life applications the difference between the two consoles is huge.
 
I just hope we get a PS5 Pro at launch, because this was awful! Microsoft have produced something that is powerful and won't overheat.
 
icerock said:
Memory goes to Series X too, they have more bandwidth.

Sony are cheaper on basically every hardware part except cooling and SSD.
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Don't forget though:

Series X:

But up until now at least, the focus has been on the GPU, where Microsoft has delivered 12 teraflops of compute performance via 3328 shaders allocated to 52 compute units (from 56 in total on silicon, four disabled to increase production yield) running at a sustained, locked 1825MHz. Once again, Microsoft stresses the point that frequencies are consistent on all machines, in all environments. There are no boost clocks with Xbox Series X.
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PS5:

It's really important to clarify the PlayStation 5's use of variable frequencies. An internal monitor analyses workloads on both CPU and GPU and adjusts frequencies to match.
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So, yeah , depending on that. the difference can be MUCH bigger - in reality.
 
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KiriKiri said:
How is it shifting goal posts? Reasons to buy consoles: GAMES. It's not like I was even one of those naysayers who were saying the specs would be better than xbox. Sony won with less specs last gen as well?
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I only care about photorealism. If someone just cares about games, there is no reason to buy either one of these consoles. The PS4 and XBox One S are both great systems if you don't care about cutting edge graphics. But for those of us who want photorealism, there are no options. The PS5 is a gimped console and the XBox Series X, while likely a generational leap, will likely require being connected to the internet.
 
Why are people still trying to justify their original 9tf predictions?

Goodness, I'm not excited for the system but the console warring is getting too obvious. It's 10.2 flops. It's RDNA 2. So-called insiders were wrong about half of it and right about the other half.
 
The thing I care about most: storage.

I have an 8tb external HDD for my PS4. I assume external drives will be an issue with the PS5 since so much of the benefits some from the internal SSD, no?

How would all that work for people who want expanded storage, but not sacrifice loading times?
 
Yep I will be doing the exact opposite I did this gen. I'll be picking up an X Series at launch and then 2-3 years down the road I will get the PS5 for the exclusives
 
Majority went in expecting 13TF. As noted by our recent poll.

Instead they got 9-10TF boost clock (theoretical boost peak of 10.28tf @ 2.23ghz) .
Up to 3.5ghz CPU (if able to use full boost)
16GB of ram (10GB of it slower than Series X)
Inept BC
Faster SSD

I think the worst part about it was all the hype leading up to the presentation the past day or so, especially that hype train. Instead we got those specs & 30 min of SSD talk.

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First impression is it seems like they really fumbled on the whole design. The extreme high clocks was obviously done to try and keep up with XSX. Will have to see the DF comparos to see the full damage.
 
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The only thing I couldn't manage to explain myself was the Focus on Audio being so big...and then I told myself I would have to Test it myself, only before Cerny started "relativizing" how much of a different Experience it would be by showing that this is perceived differently and is really Not 100% researched and it is a ongoing process even after release

I am Just asking myself: are you really going to invest so much time in something that is Like really very perception based?

Blows my mind how it came to this decision making and the relentless Focus. They reallly Seem to believe in something there.
 
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