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PSP primarily multimedia device games machine second?
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PhoncipleBone
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Ponn01 said:
I have tried Battefront II(have the console one, same price, better game), XMEN Legends II, Burnout(I have trouble adjusting to that analog honestly), The Con(the ripoff is more like it), Grand Theft Auto(not a fan of the series but thought I would give it a shot), Legenday Heroes(meh), Kingdom of Paradise(again, meh) Rengoku sucked. MG Acid was mediocre, not my cup of tea. Death Junior was alright.
Sports bores me, as does most racing(except Burnout at home.) Wipeout and Ridge Racer were both great, but not enough for me to keep them. Virtua Tennis is loads of fun, but my friends couldnt get it so no multiplayer love for me.
The only thing that is making me want to keep it is Katamari coming soon. If I sell my system I am going to keep my copies of Lumines and Hot Shots for when I rebuy it, but really my bills are needing paying and this looks like the best solution, as there isnt anything for a while coming to it that I am really excited about. My DS is getting all the love lately though.
The main problem with the PSP right now is the PRICE. The games are coming in slowly but surely, but the price is what is keeping most people from buying the thing. $250 for the value pack, plus another 50 for a game you want and you're looking at $300. That's quite a bit of money considering that 300 could buy you an Xbox 360.
Once Sony manages to lower the price, we'll see a lot more PSPs being bought.
Once Sony manages to lower the price, we'll see a lot more PSPs being bought.
PhoncipleBone said:
Ah well then you seem to have your heart and mind made up to sell it then do it. You listed off a couple of my favorite games right now. The only thing I could suggest is Socom and Tokobot but I doubt you would like them because you seem to have your mind made up.
michael000
Banned
Slightly off topic but any news on a new revision PSP in the near future? My PSP experience came to an end last week but would definitely buy another one if the gaming list ever meets my tastes. A slightly revised version would be even better heh. Possibly a different d-pad, maybe adjust the nub some, pressure sensitive buttons, etc.
Andy787 said:
Alright, so I did a search for "PSP has no games" and the first occurance was from a sony bot. Second one was Olimario announcing that he is going to sell his DS for a PSP and the 3rd one was Wario posting PSP/DS software sales.
Exactly why is it worthy of being a phrase used to defame nintards in a sarcastic way in every other thread?
Mook1e
Member
Probably because it's just a phrase used in place of the many ways that nintards say that general statement when asked why they don't have/like PSP.elostyle said:
"The games don't appeal to me"
"There's nothing to play on PSP"
"There are no games worth playing on PSP"
"I don't like PSP games"
Etc... are all linked to
"PSP has no games"
radioheadrule83
Banned
Step 1) Sony/Nintendo fans parse thread title and message body for certain keywords that are of interest
Step 2) Said fans interpret mention of PSP or DS as a good enough reason to post what they've posted countless times before, yet again
Step 3) Thread magically transforms into ABSOLUTELY SHIT PSP/DS THREAD #1,203,234,645,548,389,000
Step 2) Said fans interpret mention of PSP or DS as a good enough reason to post what they've posted countless times before, yet again
Step 3) Thread magically transforms into ABSOLUTELY SHIT PSP/DS THREAD #1,203,234,645,548,389,000
dot-Nick said:
I just got a bigger memory stick for christmas, and I've been using PSP Movie Creator to great effect. I've got a couple episodes of the simpsons on there that look perfect, and I've got Boondock Saints on there at a lower quality, but it's still good. When I was toying with it, I could pretty easily notice the difference between 15 and 29 fps even on the Simpsons. With a 1gig stick though you can fit a full quality movie on there. It does take a while though, about 40 minutes for the movie, 6-10 minutes for the episodes.
There may be an even better conversion to get DVD's onto the PSP, but this is the easiest I think.
As far as the main discussion, I'm happy with the games I've played so far, and there are more out there I want to buy when I get the money to spare. I'll probably pick up X-men legends for it very soon.
Point is that such a generalization is bad, especially when used repeatedly and even when not appropriate. There was a time when the DS lineup sucked for months and a lot of similar threads were made about it and it was justified - just like in the psp's case. Just this beating of dead and burried horses can get very annoying.Mook1e said:
Shogmaster
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Fusebox said:
OH. My. GOD. You must be fucking joking.....
Fixed.
Mook1e
Member
Yeah, on both ends of course.elostyle said:
I don't really see how it's justified on either side, though.
It's as if people forget about the dead zone after a system launch with most systems.
We'll see how the Xbox360, PS3, and Revolution do with regards to software releases after launch.
So many X360 launch games were delayed that I think it may avoid a major drought.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I think I agree with him on both accounts. If you count the portable DVD players then, no I guess. But those portable DVD players are not really all that portable in my opinion. PSP has a pretty good balance between the screen size and unit size, not to mention the screen quality. For games, between the PSP games and emulated stuff I've never used or seen a better handheld gaming device. The best part is, it just keep getting better, what through system updates, what through homebrew - web broser, internet radio, podcasts...Shogmaster said:
xaosslug
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imo Sony's strategy isn't to maintain a high price-point of their handheld just on account of it's pricy tech and they're hurting in the bank and are trying to get what they can while they can, though i'm sure that plays a role. it is selling at for what it's worth, why lowball? why not wait until the tech has matured and they have a large catalogue of games before they really get bloody? they know full well they can't come at Nintendo balls-to-the-wall without any games to show for it. once they have a number of diverse, high quality games they will most likely price-drop, really get dirrty, and in-turn Nintendo will have a tough handheld battle on their hands. in short: they can still sink to Hell.
it won't be $199, i'm thinking they will match DS' present MSRP, or at least ballpark it. my sky-high hopes, an ominous prediction, theories pulled out my ass too early in the am. whatever.
i swear, people seem to think Sony's suddenly struck stupid. PSP is a serious thereat to Nintendo's handheld monopoly, and Nintendo fans really need to slow their roll. the PSP could be the iPod to the DS, like the iPod was to Sony's Walkmen. an intriguing alternative to what consumers know and are used to.
it won't be $199, i'm thinking they will match DS' present MSRP, or at least ballpark it. my sky-high hopes, an ominous prediction, theories pulled out my ass too early in the am. whatever.
i swear, people seem to think Sony's suddenly struck stupid. PSP is a serious thereat to Nintendo's handheld monopoly, and Nintendo fans really need to slow their roll. the PSP could be the iPod to the DS, like the iPod was to Sony's Walkmen. an intriguing alternative to what consumers know and are used to.
frAntic_Frog
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oh i dont know, but maybe there are more UMD movies available than PSP games since its a snap to port a DVD movie over to UMD (last i checked there are over 1000+ movies on DVD) while developing PSP games take a bit longer . just a thought
For anyone disagreeing on the PSP being the best portable movie player either doesn't own a PSP, is too cheap to buy a 512/1GB memory stick (no excuse with Giga Pack) or is too stupid to encode the movies.
Seriousely, the screen is absolutely beautiful. All I do when I 'get' a tv episode/movie (use dvd decrypter to get my own dvds), just encode it to PSP format and burn it to dvd, delete it from my hdd. You're good to go. Drop a movie, a couple tv episodes and you're good to go for the week for your skytrain/bus/subway rides or when you're at work or wherever you want to watch a movie away from your home.
It's really not that hard to set the movies to encode and drop them in. It's like under 2 minutes of your own time (hours of your computer's time while you sleep)
...People are just making shit up to diss on the PSP for.
Now I agree none of the above is general consumer friendly, but how does this effect -you-, the supposed "hardcore".
Seriousely, the screen is absolutely beautiful. All I do when I 'get' a tv episode/movie (use dvd decrypter to get my own dvds), just encode it to PSP format and burn it to dvd, delete it from my hdd. You're good to go. Drop a movie, a couple tv episodes and you're good to go for the week for your skytrain/bus/subway rides or when you're at work or wherever you want to watch a movie away from your home.
It's really not that hard to set the movies to encode and drop them in. It's like under 2 minutes of your own time (hours of your computer's time while you sleep)
...People are just making shit up to diss on the PSP for.
Now I agree none of the above is general consumer friendly, but how does this effect -you-, the supposed "hardcore".
frAntic_Frog
Member
and those who say "blah blah blah teh portable DVD players are superior blah blah" why dont you also take into account resolutions on those players? battery life? weight? how hot those things get after few hours of play back? price and quality? damned if i see a brand name portable DVD player for under $100......$200 if im lucky. none of that apex/insignia garbage i mean
PhoncipleBone
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I will agree with the others on here that it is the best portable movie player out there. The screen is great for it, and the quality is quite high on it. Movies encoded properly, especially using AVC, look wonderful on the system.
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Deleted member 1235
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lets pretend it's not a gaming machine, how does it stack up vs the ipod video? I just got one of these for christmas and I love it. Obviously PSP is going to trounce it screen wise, but in all other aspects how does it fare?
I don't like PSP controls (I just can't get why Sony fucked the dpad so badly and misplaced the analog rub at the bottom of the console, whereas everything else on the machine was marvelously conceived), which seriously limits my attraction to its game library. But the PSP must be highly praised for its multimedia functions (and I'm not talking about MP3, not convenient at all to use compared to an ipod):
- The mere Internet function justifies the PSP purchase AFAIC, it's just great to be able to browse the web from bed, in the toilets, from my terrace, etc.
- The picture function is just great, though I miss the even better homebrew application since I upgraded to 2.0. Sony really should enhance its picture browser in a future firmware update.
- TV shows look fantastic on the PSP. My only peeve is the lack of editable name for the videos and the absence of thumbnails on the PC to instantly recognize what I encoded (or is there a software that allows this that I missed?)
- The mere Internet function justifies the PSP purchase AFAIC, it's just great to be able to browse the web from bed, in the toilets, from my terrace, etc.
- The picture function is just great, though I miss the even better homebrew application since I upgraded to 2.0. Sony really should enhance its picture browser in a future firmware update.
- TV shows look fantastic on the PSP. My only peeve is the lack of editable name for the videos and the absence of thumbnails on the PC to instantly recognize what I encoded (or is there a software that allows this that I missed?)
The Take Out Bandit
Member
You forgot:
- Mommy won't buy me one.
- Mommy won't buy me one.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Well, obviously, the screen is much bigger on the PSP, and it's also 24bit color vs. 16 bit on Ipod, and it also has with very high quality color reproduction - still best among handheld machines that I've seen. It's also widescreen which is great for most movies and TV shows nowadays. On a negative size, the bigger screen means bigger device - Ipod video is considerably smaller and thinner.catfish said:
On Ipod you have an integrated hardrive which gives you a lot more storage space than the 1 or 2GB memory stick.
As far as I remember, the battery life on Ipod is not too great while watching the video, it's better on PSP, especially when you watch videos from the memory stick.
They both use h264 codec for encoding so the video encoding quality is simillar, but if you watch UMD movie discs, the encoding quality is even better there, because they use higher resolution and higher bitrate.
What other aspects are you interested in?
Ha, I'm glad the PSP is a multimedia device. Hell, yesterday, I used the thing to play Guilty Gear for a couple of hours, then I exercized while listening to the songs I downloaded to it, and I spent most of the night trying to find car crash videos I could add to it to watch during school next month. This thing pays for itself quickly
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Marconelly said:
Well I got the ipod as a gift and I think it rocks, I find the screen to be acceptable and only use it for watching television (it's my arrested development device) but the battery sucks I'm pretty sure, I've only had it since christmas but two episodes of ad seemed to run the battery indicator down to just above half. The documentation claims about 3-4 hours video I think and 14 hours straight music.
The way I see it based on my little play with a friends PSP and what I can gather from here
1. Ipod wins battery life, but maybe not for straight video (3-4 hours)
2. Ipod wins storage.
3. PSP wins video playback (sexy screen)
4. PSP wins internet browsing
5. Ipod wins interface
Can't think of anything else right now, but surely someone owns both and can give a comparison. Being that I got the ipod video as a gift and I own a DS there is no way I can justify a purchase but I would like to know if any PSP and IPOD owners think I'm missing out on anything.
EDIT:
I'm guilty of this, fuck memory sticks and their bullshit pricing!
Fusebox said:
Ipod video and PSP suck for video because of how much of a pain in the ass it is to get video onto them. I would say that high end PDAs are the best portable movie players on the market at the moment.*
* The PSP can obviously play UMD movies as well which require no fuss, but I am referring to playing movies off of the memory stick.
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Deleted member 1235
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bionic77 said:
I'll agree there definately. I was disappointed I had to go through a long ass encoding process, but maybe it was naive to expect it easier. At least the itunes store does it for you, but like I'll ever buy a music video for 2 bucks. whats the best program to use? I downloaded videora and it seems to do the job, but maybe there is a better one?
Videora seems kind of slapped together and I'm pretty sure some of my audio is out of sync.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
I own a PSP and a 30GB iPod Photo.
I don't even know why there are comparisons being drawn. :\
I prefer my iPod for music playback less because of storage space, more because it's a less intricate piece of hardware and I have a more durable case to keep it safe on the go.
PSP also have built in speakers which is a nice bonus for video watching. I'm not keen on ear buds at all, so I'd rather go some place quiet and watch video. Unfortunately I don't live some place nice where I'd be using either device in public, so headphones for other peoples convenience is not a factor.
iPod video is nice, but I bought my iPod as a jukebox - so until this thing dies my PSP offers more functionality than my iPod in terms of entertainment options.
I don't even know why there are comparisons being drawn. :\
I prefer my iPod for music playback less because of storage space, more because it's a less intricate piece of hardware and I have a more durable case to keep it safe on the go.
PSP also have built in speakers which is a nice bonus for video watching. I'm not keen on ear buds at all, so I'd rather go some place quiet and watch video. Unfortunately I don't live some place nice where I'd be using either device in public, so headphones for other peoples convenience is not a factor.
iPod video is nice, but I bought my iPod as a jukebox - so until this thing dies my PSP offers more functionality than my iPod in terms of entertainment options.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I'm not really sure if there's any PDA that can straight out play DivX/Xvid files you'd encode off your DVD movies (720x480, 5.1 audio, 1200-1500kbps bitrate). Codec might be the problem just for audio, so you'd have to re-encode. Not to mention Hi-Def TV shows, what PDA can chew on HD video? Besides, PDA screens are still pretty sucky.bionic77 said:
Marconelly said:
My Axim x50v plays pretty much anything I have thrown at it (which is mostly TV shows that look Hi-Def on my laptop). And I actually prefer its screen to the PSP's. To be fair though, the PSP looks better than almost any portable device when you play a UMD. My Axim can't really compete with a UMD because the largest card I have is 1 Gig.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
1280x720 DivX playback on X50 (scaled down to it's screen resolution of course)? That would be very impressive.bionic77 said:
sonycowboy
Member
belgurdo said:
It's getting ridiculous lately. ALL the way around. PSP vs DS shitfests, PS3 vs 360 pissiness. I know it's always been true, but it's getting pretty bad lately. It's gotten to a point that I've really really cut back on posting because every systems discussion goes downhill so quickly.
I've certainly played into it somewhat, but the constant derision and attacks that take place are so constant and pervasive and it's gotten tiresome.
I suppose this always happens at transition times.
mckmas8808
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jarrod said:
Wow didn't know DC vs. PS2 was the worst out of all the ones you listed! That's amazing thinking about the fact that the DC is dead now. It's like all of those people were arguing for nothing.