PSP RELEASE DATE!! (24th of march)

Believe me, you WILL need the extra crap that comes with the value pack. The case is indispensable, and you'll need the earphones if only for the remote. I wanted to get a basic pack when I bought my JP PSP, but I could only find the Value Pack. Now I'm glad I got it, since I haven't bought a memory stick yet (I'm waiting for prices to drop).

And why are people complaining about the Canadian price? That's $10 cheaper than the US one.
 
Duckhuntdog said:
You know, I got this feeling, that everyone here bitching about the price, will still be there, buying one on launch.
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no, I won't.... but it has nothing to do with the price... The DS was my breaking point. Buying the system with some great games, and never seeing anything for months after.. and yes, I know it is like that with all systems.. but I am getting to the point were gaming is less important in my life and thus I don't need to have everything right away. So I will probably buy a PSP, but it might be a month or two or three after launch...

The only system I plan on buying at launch in the near future is Revolution. The other two better have some amazing AAA 9.9+ stuff launching with it to get me to stand in line for hours and drop $500 on it...
 
Duckhuntdog said:
You know, I got this feeling, that everyone here bitching about the price, will still be there, buying one on launch.
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:lol :lol

You know, after I simmer down, I still might. The only problem is that Sony effectively screwed 3rd parties at launch. I will probably be buying only two games max at launch. Especially if they are 40 and 50 bucks each. I do agree that making sure every PSP user has a memory card is a good thing because all games need one to save. Another reason I'm a little miffed about the value pack is it means Koei probably won't bring their sexy PSP case over to NA now.
 
/cancels pre-order to wait for the Unit Only pack

/flips on DS with Yoshi

/giggles silently to himself



And what's with the crap launch line up? If you don't like sports/XTREME you're down to a few games.
 
Duckhuntdog said:
You know, I got this feeling, that everyone here bitching about the price, will still be there, buying one on launch.
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:lol I bet a good many will.

I definitely won't, though. As has been said, it's not really the price that gets me, but the superfluous items included that I don't want at all. I'd feel like a big tool buying into that crap.
 
jarrod said:
A better comparison would be 3rd/4th gen stuff, like Spyro 2 (for DS) or Burnout 3 (for PSP).
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Eh, I agree with the general direction of your argument, just not the distance to which you're taking it. There are still likely plenty of specific aspects about the hardware design that are going to leave developers with plenty to experiment with on the PSP and DS. How to maximize visual performance against battery performance, for example. A general purpose Performance Analyzer is still in the wings for the PSP (dunno about DS). Wifi usage for multiplayer. Etc.
 
For some, video games are a greater priority than others. I don't think it's crazy at all to expect the PSP to cost $150. For one, I've never had a handheld, and now it looks like I never will. Why? It's just not worth the premium to be playing what are basically crappier console games on the go. For some, it's a bargain...not me. $250 is a header, downpipe or high-flow cat. $250 is a bit less than a set of front and rear swaybars. $250 is the full chassis brace set (front/mid/rear) on my car. $250 if a complete set of new Kumhos. $250 is not handheld gaming to me. I went from love (first announcement) to hate (UMD-ROMs) back to love (first software, and JPN price) and now back to hate (retarded US price). Such is the rollercoaster ride that was the PSP. :lol Meh, won't be seeing me much in the weekly sales threads again until later on in the year I guess. :| PEACE.
 
Value pack at $250 works fine for me. As I said earlier, I was expecting the PSP to be $200, and I would have wanted a memory stick and case anyway, so the extras are just a bonus.

The 32 MB memory stick is perfect for me. Plenty of room to save games, and as I already have a 20GB MP3 player, and a 20 GB portable media player, I really don't need anything out of the PSP but to be a game machine.

Considering I already have $50 down to pre-order, and plan on trading in a number of games (Halo 2, KOTOR II) and my GBA (hardly play, will play it less with PSP), the sticker shock won't be too bad. Plus, my state income tax check will cover everything anyway! :D Life will be good!
 
krypt0nian said:
And what's with the crap launch line up? If you don't like sports/XTREME you're down to a few games.
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By few, it's still more than most launches. Here's the "few" you refer to. Lots to choose from, still.

(Perhaps Twisted Metal is XTREME-- I'm unclear on the definition)

-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Darkstalkers Chronicle(TM): The Chaos Tower, Capcom
-- Dynasty Warriors(R), KOEI
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- Need for Speed(TM) Rivals, Electronic Arts
-- Rengoku(TM): Tower of Purgatory, Konami
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Smartbomb, Eidos Interactive
-- Spider-Man 2(TM), Activision
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
 
krypt0nian said:
/cancels pre-order to wait for the Unit Only pack

/flips on DS with Yoshi

/giggles silently to himself



And what's with the crap launch line up? If you don't like sports/XTREME you're down to a few games.
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Crap? It's one of the best I have ever seen - keep on giggling to yourself and touching Yoshi. :lol
 
:lol :lol
At a quick glance I first thought Spiderman 2 was the game. But the movie? :lol Fuck that. What a rip.
Ebay should be fun though.
 
kaching said:
Eh, I agree with the general direction of your argument, just not the distance to which you're taking it. There are still likely plenty of specific aspects about the hardware design that are going to leave developers with plenty to experiment with on the PSP and DS. How to maximize visual performance against battery performance, for example. A general purpose Performance Analyzer is still in the wings for the PSP (dunno about DS). Wifi usage for multiplayer. Etc.
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Sure, I totally agree developers will keep advancing on these machines and these comparisons are far from perfect (though better than launch comparisons imo). I'm just not expecting the same sort of dramatic difference in 1st gen to 5th gen software as PS1 or PS2.
 
Bring on March 24!

I can't wait, the price was a little disappointing because I already have a camera that uses the memory stick duo anyways, but I'll definitely get on on launch day. The game launch up is pretty amazing if you're into the sports games. At least Luminies is officially coming here on launch day. I'll be mighty poor soon. ;(
 
Duckhuntdog said:
You know, I got this feeling, that everyone here bitching about the price, will still be there, buying one on launch.
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I didn't buy DS at launch and won't buy a PSP at launch for the same exact reason - not enough games that interest me at this time. I've still got a good backlog of GBA strategy games to play and Zelda, Kingdom Hearts and FFI&II Advance as well.

I do want Lumines and MGA for PSP, but that's really all there is for me right now, everyting else is EA sPorts or PS2 games I've already played. DS really only has Feel the Magic and Wario Ware Touched, which really isn't enough for me, either. That's not to say DS has nothing to play, I could play the GBA games I have on it, but just see no need since I'm content with GBA

Once a few more months roll by, I think I'll be ready for the new handhelds. Both have more than enough RPGs coming to warrant a purchase.
 
People expected the PSP to sell for less in NA than Japan, the same way it's been with consoles. But if you look at the DS, even that is selling for around the same price in Japan and the US (actually a tiny bit cheaper in Japan).

And seriously how can anyone feel ripped off for buying something that's sold at a loss?
 
jarrod said:
Sure, I totally agree developers will keep advancing on these machines and these comparisons are far from perfect (though better than launch comparisons imo). I'm just not expecting the same sort of dramatic difference in 1st gen to 5th gen software as PS1 or PS2.
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Why not as PSOne ? I'd undestand about PlayStation 2 as it took quite a bit to get used to the new platform, but PSP has some tricks up its sleeve too ;).
 
Wait, I think I've figured it out...

Sony whore: "DS has nothing but puzzlers/mingames for launch. SUX!"
Nintendo whore: Sony whore: "PSP has nothing but racers/sports for launch. SUX!"
 
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RevenantKioku said:
:lol :lol
At a quick glance I first thought Spiderman 2 was the game. But the movie? :lol Fuck that. What a rip.
Ebay should be fun though.
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I might want a launch system now, simply because I have this thing for owning obscure, attempted technologies. "Movies on UMD" is going to be up there. I'll keep the UMD version of Spider-Man 2 in the same drawer that houses my Sinclair ZX81.
 
There are only a handful of games there I'm planning on buying. But the MP3 and video playback is actually really quite tempting for me - to the extent that I'm planning on importing a Canadian unit almost regardless of games (not that there isn't enough coming down the line to keep me happy...). Now I come to think of it, the killer app for me would be something that lets me copy footage off my TiVO onto PSP. :)
 
I'm still probably going to end up buying one on day one -- but seriously ... go fuck yourselves Sony. This is the first time I've been dissapointed by a Sony video game hardware launch price.

Marking up the price by $50 for $20 worth of junk is bullshit. I wanted to spend that extra $$$ on an extra battery pack or to go towards a 1 GB memory stick. Rest assured I will not be buying any more than 1 game at launch.

Not that I'm entirely happy with Nintendo (uh ... ever heard of GOOD GAMES after launch? Haven't touched my DS in weeks) either. Sony will have a better software library right at launch than Nintendo has gotten in four months time. Pathetic. Someone wake me up when Mario Kart comes out.
 
Panajev2001a said:
Why not as PSOne ? I'd undestand about PlayStation 2 as it took quite a bit to get used to the new platform, but PSP has some tricks up its sleeve too ;).
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I think you forget exactly what PSone games looked like in 1994... wasn't pretty. A lot of that had to do with developers (outside Sega & Namco) becoming accustomed to high end 3D. Just compare the advancement between something like Tohshinden to Tekken 3 or Jumping Flash to Spyro 3. I'd say PS1's advancement is actually on par with PS2 really, PS2 maybe moved faster even.
 
borghe said:
soft carrying case... cost to sony = $4
UMD sampler disc... cost to sony = $1
Spider-Man 2 UMD... cost to Sony = $1
headphones... cost to sony = $2
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People who think material direct costs are all the costs there are = priceless
 
You know what? I would pay upwards of four hundred canadian for this if I had to. If we were at the old exchange rate, I would have to spend that much (PS2 cost that much when I bought).

PSP + 1GB Memory Stick = Me being able to watch TV shows I've acquired, on commute.

Then combine that with gaming and I'm absolutely happy with the PSP, being forced to buy the value pack or not.
 
krypt0nian said:
/cancels pre-order to wait for the Unit Only pack

/flips on DS with Yoshi

/giggles silently to himself



And what's with the crap launch line up? If you don't like sports/XTREME you're down to a few games.
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Yoshi looks fine and everything...but this lineup is better than the DS which has been out for awhile now. That's sort of pathetic.
 
xsarien said:
I might want a launch system now, simply because I have this thing for owning obscure, attempted technologies. "Movies on UMD" is going to be up there. I'll keep the UMD version of Spider-Man 2 in the same drawer that houses my Sinclair ZX81.
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But do you have 3D Monster Maze for it?
 
Tabris said:
You know what? I would pay upwards of four hundred canadian for this if I had to. If we were at the old exchange rate, I would have to spend that much (PS2 cost that much when I bought).

PSP + 1GB Memory Stick = Me being able to watch TV shows I've acquired, on commute.

Then combine that with gaming and I'm absolutely happy with the PSP, being forced to buy the value pack or not.
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Which is what I've been saying for a while too... handheld entertainment isn't for everybody. Especially suburbanites who drive everywhere.

They like to ask questions like, "WHY PSP AND NOT PS2?"
 
Tabris said:
You know what? I would pay upwards of four hundred canadian for this if I had to. If we were at the old exchange rate, I would have to spend that much (PS2 cost that much when I bought).

PSP + 1GB Memory Stick = Me being able to watch TV shows I've acquired, on commute.

Then combine that with gaming and I'm absolutely happy with the PSP, being forced to buy the value pack or not.
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Not a bad idea actually.
 
The PSP is a bit more than expected but I suppose $249 isin't to bad. I glad lumines is a launch title which I will get with ridge racers, twisted metal, and metal gear acid. It seems with the spiderman 2 giveaway sony is pushing hard for the success of the UMD movie section of the psp.
 
Funny thing is that what I paid for my import system + 3 games is almost the same as what I would have to pay if I got a NA one with 3 games. Maybe I should just sell my system on ebay and buy a NA one at launch?
 
Miburou said:
Funny thing is that what I paid for my import system + 3 games is almost the same as what I would have to pay if I got a NA one with 3 games. Maybe I should just sell my system on ebay and buy a NA one at launch?
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No.
 
I'll probably wait for a pricedrop to under 200 before I get one to use now although I seriously am considering buying one to sell for double on ebay.
 
Alls I can say is that I'm glad I imported. Only problem is, that Spider-Man 2 UMD, I WANTS...but I can't play it on the import system :(
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Haha, true. Well, I'm buying another one for my wife anyways :P
 
Feh only $250? In march i'll be forced to spend over a grand (tux rental, bachelor party, travel + board cost, spending money) to be the best man in a wedding where i've told the groom on numerous occassions to cancel the wedding because he's making the biggest mistake of his life (his fiances a real piece of work). How's that for being squeezed by the balls this march lol.
 
The thing is I know I'm going to have buy one of those Best Buy extended warranty's on the PSP (3 year one preferably).

There's no way with all the issues I've been hearing about (sticky buttons, analog sticks falling off, discs flying out, etc.) that'd I get one without a warranty.

So that's like $300 probably right there before even getting a game. Yeah, I'd say there's no way I'm getting more than one launch game. Probably either Ridge Racers or one of the NBA games.
 
Deg said:
Translation: Getting ripped off is good. I like paying extra for shoddily implemented functions.
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Again, so 600,000+ Japanese consumers (assuming 3:1 Value Pack to Standard set ratio that seems about right) got ripped off? Where were you saying this when everyone was wetting themselves in the Official Launch thread.

Im not being an apologist... but I get the idea here. It is about losing less money and not confusing customers. You all seem to forget that consumers have never had to buy a memory card for a handheld GAMING system before. Why not make it simple by bundling it. Same logic goes with the other accessories. Would I rather them sell a standard pack, sure? Are they going to? No.

If you compare Value Pack to Value Pack I think America is getting the better deal.

The main reason for the bitching in this thread is how everyone massaged each other into believing a lower price point in all the speculation threads. (I said 179.99 for a standard pack and maybe higher because of the yen... I was close to right, but still low.)

Im happy to see some in this thread are trying again with "Ill wait for the standard pack." I don't know if I am misreading the press release, but Im going to go out on a limb and say you might be waiting for a long time.
 
tetsuoxb said:
Again, so 600,000+ Japanese consumers (assuming 3:1 Value Pack to Standard set ratio that seems about right) got ripped off? Where were you saying this when everyone was wetting themselves in the Official Launch thread.
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Actually I remember someone in Japan (maybe johnnyram) that the Value Pack was actually closer to 70% of machines sold... maybe that's a contributor as to why SCEA figured to go value only?

"Profitable by summer" suddenly doesn't seem so impossible. :)
 
jarrod said:
Actually I remember someone in Japan (maybe johnnyram) that the Value Pack was actually closer to 70% of machines sold... maybe that's a contributor as to why SCEA figured to go value only?

"Profitable by summer" suddenly doesn't seem so impossible. :)
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3:1 = 75%. Are we nitpicking on 5% here? :-)
 
john2kx said:
that price will probably drop soon..

why anyone would buy a sony product right away at launch anyway is beyond me..
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How many people in this thread are going to say that? Just curious... can you all get it out of your systems now?
 
Some of you guys are fucking nuts. The price point is in line with what we've been expecting for months now.
 
Seems like the whole value pack idea is a smokescreen to charge consumers higher prices by packing in extra items to make it look more value friendly and hide the fact that they are really selling the PSP at a higher price point.
 
john2kx said:
why anyone would buy a sony product right away at launch anyway is beyond me..
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I assume you're talking about build quality not price. If so, I can understand the concern...

Still, I can't help myself. :P
 
The price is really $250 then, the lower 19,800 yen price point in Japan is really just a smoke screen since Sony ships mostly Value Packs.

Its kind of deceptive on their part, but whatever.

I was hoping for a basic $199 pack with a 32MB Memory Stick (c'mon these cost nothing these days). The carrying case and all that other crap I could do without.

I'm definitely getting a 3-year extended warranty on this thing from Best Buy though (personally I think anyone who doesn't is crazy, Kutaragi even admits one of the defects is on purpose, lol), so that means a real price point of $300 for me before even getting a game.
 
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