Puerto Rico runs out of money, closes schools

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Looks like someone needs some bailing out.

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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- The government of Puerto Rico ran out of money Monday, forcing the U.S. commonwealth to close public schools and shut down government offices, putting almost 100,000 people out of work.

The legislature and governor failed to reach a last-minute accord that would have averted the first-ever partial shutdown of the government in island history.

All 1,600 public schools on the island were closed two weeks before the end of the academic year, and 43 government agencies were shut down after negotiations between lawmakers and Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila failed.

Acevedo blamed "legislative inaction" for the shutdown.

"As of 8 a.m. this morning, I don't have in hand a single legislative proposal that resolves this crisis," he told reporters.

The closure gave an unplanned holiday to 500,000 students and threw almost 100,000 government employees -- including 40,000 teachers -- temporarily out of work. The governor has said essential services, such as police and hospitals, would continue during the shutdown.

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Puerto Rico has a $740 million budget shortfall because the legislature and the governor have been unable to agree on a spending plan since 2004.

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Overnight, the Senate leader offered a compromise that would create a 5.9 percent sales tax, which he said would raise enough money to pay off an emergency $532 million line of credit the government needs to finish the fiscal year.

But that proposal failed to gain traction in the House of Representatives, where leaders said they opposed any sales tax above 5.5 percent -- with 1.5 percent earmarked for municipalities.

Both proposals fell short of the 7 percent that Acevedo said was necessary to pay for an additional $640 million loan and avoid a partial government shutdown. Anything less that 7 percent would only postpone the crisis until July 1, when the next fiscal year begins, the governor said.

The island currently has no sales tax.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/05/01/puerto.rico.shutdown.ap/index.html


Damn Republicans
 
I love Puerto Rico...for like the 1 Week i'm there, then I want to head back to civilization. Shit, going back to the motherland is all well and good but holy shit is that little island in dissarray. I even asked my Grandmother if she would ever go back to Puerto Rico, and she was like "Fuck No"...well...she didn't say Fuck No but she may as well.

Also, I was born in America but the whole fucken island is full of racist that harass you for not being born on the island and whatnot.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Also, I was born in America but the whole fucken island is full of racist that harass you for not being born on the island and whatnot.
They're just americans in denial. Seriously, that makes no sense.
 
jamesinclair said:
Its a confusing island. Are Puerto Ricans in the mainland considered immigrants? Theyre hispanic...but theyre american.

Its weird. Like, my cousin for instance. Her Mother and Father are both 100% Hispanic, her Grandmother and Grandfather on both sides came straight from the Island (Puerto Rico) but when she moved there with her mother (for a short amount of time) she was harrassed to no end because she was born on the Mainland.

She speaks perfect Spanish. The only thing that could probably give her away is probably the way she is...gestures and she also talks English without any accents (well, a New England accent, not Hispanic accent). Alot of people on the island (mainly kids her age, which around the time would be 14) and her teach in school, would treat her like shit because of this.
 
Some fitting quotes(these apply most anywhere):

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.-James Bovard

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.-Sir Winston Churchill

and the most fitting of all:

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.-George Bernard Shaw
 
Wow... some stupid generalizations I've read in this thread.

BlueTsunami, I really don't know what you're referring to as I know tons of people in your same situation and have never heard that.

Edit: There's no 'confusion' in terms of citizenship. Puertorricans are US citizens, and PR is an US territory. It's somewhat of a state without some benefits and without any concrete representation in the US Congress.
 
IJoel said:
Wow... some stupid generalizations I've read in this thread.

BlueTsunami, I really don't know what you're referring to as I know tons of people in your same situation and have never heard that.

I don't know if its reserved to specific parts of the island but most of my "Americanized" cousins have ran into it. I'm going to ask my mother later where most of my extended family on Puerto Rico lives but thats where i've experienced the stuff i'm talking about. Not saying the whole island is full or racists though, i'm sure the more tourist centric places are not as bad.
 
BlueTsunami said:
I don't know if its reserved to specific parts of the island but most of my "Americanized" cousins have ran into it. I'm going to ask my mother later where most of my extended family on Puerto Rico lives but thats where i've experienced the stuff i'm talking about. Not saying the whole island is full or racists though, i'm sure the more tourist centric places are not as bad.

Out of the tons of people that I've met in this same situation, from all over the place in PR, it's the first time I hear such a thing. Obviously, it's your own experience, but do not generalize nor give some ignorants some sort of baseless validation to continue with further generalizations.
 
the situation here is pretty fucking bad... if I could I would get the shit out of here.

and wtf Blue Tsunami? I never heard of something like that here :/ that sucks.

of all my years living here, I never heard of racism and shit like that.

ToxicAdam said:
People still live in Puerto Rico? I thought they all moved to New York City.
ughhhh I'm lost for words.
 
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Raven. said:
Some fitting quotes(these apply most anywhere):

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.-James Bovard

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.-Sir Winston Churchill

and the most fitting of all:

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.-George Bernard Shaw

:lol
 
Wow at some of these remarks in this thread.....I mean, are these really some people's perceptions of Puerto Ricans? And WTF with "New York" comment....

I honestly didn't know this was happening, but I haven't been to PR since I was child anyway. Both my mother and father are full-blooded PRicans. They speak spanish but I don't and have been americanized. It does get old when native speaking Puerto Ricans looks and react to you like you just spit on their shoes or something because you don't speak "de spanish!"
 
I'm not directly affected by this, at least not yet, but I swear, come 2007/2008, those lazy assed motherfuckers better not show their face around my neighborhood looking for votes cause they're gonna get egged and hosed by yours truly.

All this bullshit has been cause by 2 simple things, 12 years of corruption and poor handling of government funds, and second, a guy who lost the 2004 elections here in PR and still has not gotten it through his thick fucking head that he is not the governor, so he uses the legislature and senate(both which were won by his political party) to make the current governor's life a living hell.

of all my years living here, I never heard of racism and shit like that.

It's maybe an isolated incident as I've never seen that kind of racism here either, but on the other hand, the PIP minority who are pro Independence, especially the really extremist kind can usually be heard saying things like "Yankee go home" and are pretty hostile towards north americans due to them being categorized as "oppressors" and "tyrants". They're a retarded minority though as they never amount to anything politically, and most have a warped view of the United States supposedly holding Puerto Rico hostage and away from "freedom". They sure enjoy all the federal funds and the good american life though, which is why most see them as nothing more than leeches.
 
Wow, the people on this thread are so ignorant about Puerto Rico. :lol

Speaking as a Puerto Rican who's currently living overseas, the bankruptcy thing doesn't surprise me at all, there's been mismanagement and graft going on for YEARS. I would personally welcome some sort of federal oversight by the US government to root out corruption and overspending (though the federal government can't seem to even keep themselves clean nowadays).

When you have a rinky-dink urban train system that costs billions upon BILLIONS to make and then doesn't even work right, you know there are problems...

It's funny that you guys in the US are laughing about this if for no other reason that PR is part of the US, so you know that if worse comes to worse, the US is going to have to bail the island out of all this - and that money's coming out of your pockets. :/

And yeah, there is some prejudice in PR against NY-born Puerto Ricans, but that's mostly because PRicans born in NYC try to act like they're more Puerto Rican than people who've lived their entire lives on the island. You can't grow up in NYC and then come to PR on vacation once every couple of years and expect to be treated just like any other native. Sorry, dudes.
 
evil ways said:
I'm not directly affected by this, at least not yet, but I swear, come 2007/2008, those lazy assed motherfuckers better not show their face around my neighborhood looking for votes cause they're gonna get egged and hosed by yours truly.

All this bullshit has been cause by 2 simple things, 12 years of corruption and poor handling of government funds, and second, a guy who lost the 2004 elections here in PR and still has not gotten it through his thick fucking head that he is not the governor, so he uses the legislature and senate(both which were won by his political party) to make the current governor's life a living hell.

You're talking about Pedro Rossello. This guy used to be governor of PR back in the '90s. He did a fine job during his first term but then got a god complex during his second - you guys think Bush is bad? Rossello refused to meet with the press, showed utter contempt for the people of Puerto Rico, and his administration ended up being one of the most corrupt ones in Puerto Rican history. Then he came back in '04 (after his party lost the 2000 elections he moved out of the island) to run for governor again!!! People were actually holding up signs saying "THE MESSIAH HAS RETURNED"!!!! Then, when he lost the election, he actually finagled his way to a position in the senate which he didn't deserve, and arranged it so he could destroy the current governor's economic and social plans - his idea is to flush the island down the shitter so he can take it over in the next elections. Oh, yeah, and guess what - he moved back to the continental US, even though he's supposed to be working in Puerto Rico...and has no plans to come back (why would he? He's turned the island into a broke shithole!).
 
evil ways said:
All this bullshit has been cause by 2 simple things, 12 years of corruption and poor handling of government funds, and second, a guy who lost the 2004 elections here in PR and still has not gotten it through his thick fucking head that he is not the governor, so he uses the legislature and senate(both which were won by his political party) to make the current governor's life a living hell.

Sadly, political corruption is more the norm than the exception. Almost all of Puerto Rico's governors have started off great and then turned evil and power mad after the first term. Many have returned to power multiple times after being ousted, like Rafael Hernandez Colon in the 70's and 80's.

As far as racism, there certainly are those who resent Americans (the only non-insulting term really used there), and the term Gringo is bandied about freely (not always that insultingly, especially not for lovely blond Gringas), but most of it is really not very serious. Americans are primarily badmouthed for arrogance, but many Puerto Ricans really do look up to them for being more organized and disciplined.

The Independentistas are a vocal minority and not looked on kindly by most. They also committed infamous terrorist acts in the 60s.
 
How to fix Puerto Rico's budget shortfall:

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1) Produce coffee.

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2) Choose trader and sell it in the trading house for 5 doubloons.

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3) Profit!

FnordChan

p.s. I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.
 
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- Puerto Rico moved a step closer to resolving a partial government shutdown as the island's Senate voted Thursday to impose a sales tax of 5.9 percent and a new levy on large corporations.

The vote came on the fourth day of a shutdown that has closed Puerto Rico's public schools and put more than 90,000 government employees out of work. Puerto Rico has a deficit because the governor and legislature have been unable to agree on a budget for the past two years.

The 15-10 Senate vote had the support of opposition lawmakers who have resisted Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila's proposed 7 percent sales tax, which he said was necessary to obtain a loan to pay government salaries for the remainder of the fiscal year ending June 30.

After the shutdown began Monday, Acevedo has said he would agree to a 5.9 percent tax but needed a proposal from the legislature. It wasn't immediately clear when the House of Representatives would take up the proposal. Puerto Rico currently has no sales tax.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/04/AR2006050400968.html
 
I welcome all the corporations that will be headquarted out of Florida in the next couple of years from Puerto Rico.

From no sales tax to 5.9% is going to have some interesting public reaction.
 
Ripclawe said:
I welcome all the corporations that will be headquarted out of Florida in the next couple of years from Puerto Rico.

From no sales tax to 5.9% is going to have some interesting public reaction.

Florida sales tax is still higher though...
 
Puerto Rico moved a step closer to resolving a partial government shutdown as the island's Senate voted Thursday to impose a sales tax of 5.9 percent and a new levy on large corporations.

*thumbs up*
 
Man, people in PR are going to have to start using calculators to figure out sales tax now. It was so great knowing the sticker price was the price you had to pay and never had to do any additional calculating in your head. :lol
 
FnordChan said:
How to fix Puerto Rico's budget shortfall:

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1) Produce coffee.

pic69080_t.jpg


2) Choose trader and sell it in the trading house for 5 doubloons.

pic124054_t.jpg


3) Profit!

FnordChan

p.s. I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.

:lol :lol

When does the next colonist/slave ship arrive again?
 
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