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[Cooter]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html

"After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service, received information that officials from Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests," Putin said.

 

[dskillzhtown]

That doesn't make too much sense. Wasn't Russia one of the countries opposed to the war? If Russia had proof that Iraq was a threat to the US, wouldn't they have been fine with the US taking out Saddam? Maybe Bush called Putin last night asking him to dispute the findings of the 9/11 commission.

 

[Ripclawe]

That doesn't make too much sense. Wasn't Russia one of the countries opposed to the war? If Russia had proof that Iraq was a threat to the US, wouldn't they have been fine with the US taking out Saddam? Maybe Bush called Putin last night asking him to dispute the findings of the 9/11 commission.

He wouldn't have too, the commission members have come out and said the press got it wrong. But It wouldn't surprise me that Russia is playing both sides, France supposedly was fine with the war behind the scenes as long as in public they could be the "good" guy objecting.

Don't forget from a financial POV, Russia had a good deal going with Saddam.

 

[darscot]

Damage controll! See it wasn't Bush's fault it was the Russians.

 

[Kuramu]

He [Putin] added: "It is one thing to have information that (Saddam) Hussein's regime was preparing acts of terrorism - we did have this information and we handed it over.

"But we did not have information that they were involved in any terrorist acts whatsoever and, after all, these are two different things."

that explains Putin's stance. then the question is, is it alright to hit back first. that's for each of us to decide.

 

[Suikoguy]

You would think this would have been brought up before the war..

I'm so confused now

 

[Phoenix]

That doesn't make too much sense. Wasn't Russia one of the countries opposed to the war? If Russia had proof that Iraq was a threat to the US, wouldn't they have been fine with the US taking out Saddam? Maybe Bush called Putin last night asking him to dispute the findings of the 9/11 commission.

He said there were international norms and procedures that weren't observed regarding "the use of force in international actions."

Regarding how the information might have been related to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Putin said, "Whether or not this was sufficient basis to state the United States was acting within the boundaries of self-defense, well, I don't know. This is a separate issue."

Source CNN International : http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/18/russia.warning/index.html

 

[sprsk]

DAMN THE RUSSIANS!!! :megarolleyesbarf

 

[Guileless]

That doesn't make too much sense. Wasn't Russia one of the countries opposed to the war? If Russia had proof that Iraq was a threat to the US, wouldn't they have been fine with the US taking out Saddam?

Russia was not motivated by the security of the US. It was motivated by the lucrative contracts Russian consortiums had in Iraq, which would all be canceled under a new govenment. It was also motivated by a general desire to keep the American military away from Russia, which isn't that far from Iraq.

If you think their opposition was motivated by respect for "international law", then I've got a bombed-out hulk in Grozny to sell you.

 

[FightyF]

Russia was not motivated by the security of the US. It was motivated by the lucrative contracts Russian consortiums had in Iraq, which would all be canceled under a new govenment. It was also motivated by a general desire to keep the American military away from Russia, which isn't that far from Iraq.

If you think their opposition was motivated by respect for "international law", then I've got a bombed-out hulk in Grozny to sell you.

The same applies to France as well.

 

[DarienA]

Yup many of the nations that were against the war "generally" were not against it for some humanitarian or altruistic reason.

 

[FightyF]

And this info about Russia telling warning the US is old news. Even Russian papers dated 9/12/2001 had this info.

 

[ghostface]

Yup many of the nations that were against the war "generally" were not against it for some humanitarian or altruistic reason.

True, just as the U.S did not invade for "liberating" purposes.

 

[Phoenix]

True, just as the U.S did not invade for "liberating" purposes.

Indeed. The reasons for the war and the reasons that people were against the war are intertwined and complicated defying any one sentence description of why it happened. Far too many people on all sides involved who had a wide variety of inputs into what happened. Unfortunately people pick a 'perspective' and push that as 'the one true faith' on the war on Iraq.

 

[sc0la]

Indeed. The reasons for the war and the reasons that people were against the war are intertwined and complicated defying any one sentence description of why it happened. Far too many people on all sides involved who had a wide variety of inputs into what happened. Unfortunately people pick a 'perspective' and push that as 'the one true faith' on the war on Iraq.

IBTN.

 

[Phoenix]

IBTN.

IBTN? Haven't seen that one before