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[The Cockatrice]

My IPS monitor is showing its age, as Im noticing text retention for dekstop icons and whatnot, tho it gets fixed with any game, but clearly after 7+ years its starting to age just like myself. My second monitor is irrelevant however its 165hz and here is my huge dilemma. Im undecided between another IPS or just going for a qd-oled, however as I was looking at some reviews I noticed RTINGS added a new reviewing methodology as well as VRR flicker and it's a fucking big NOPE. So I went into this huge rabbit hole looking up specifically for VRR flicker and if I never bothered lookign that up, nobody would've said anything and I mean specifically paid youtubers and whatnot, but apparently there are a ton of complaints about this outside of the other issues with oled such as burn-in. I looked at most monitors from the table below and they show how bad the flicker is and it is honestly kinda annoying to me and now I am starting to rethink my decision about qd-oled and perhaps just go for a decent priced IPS and wait for a new tech?

Do you guys notice it with gsync? I need some genuine critical thoughts, not the "buy the most expensive and youre good" kind of stuff. I dont have a 5090 to afford max framerates, so obviously my frametimes will fluctuate when gaming which causes the vrr flicker, tho I heard one could limit FPS, which I generally do but wont fix it or disable G-sync entirely, which I'd rather not. I mentioned my second monitor is 165hz because Im also wondering if my main monitor being a different refresh rate, would there be any issues. I know there were some time ago with a specific windows update, but dunno if it was fixed or not.

 

[Larxia]

I also read stuff about oled monitors lately because I also need to change my old monitor, and this is something that worries me too.
The other big thing that worries with QD-OLED is color fringing / chromatic aberration, which is apparently quite noticeable in desktop usage, so that's already quite a lot of issues, and the more I read stuff about oled, the more crazy stuff like this I read about and it's quite scary, so I just kind of gave up for now

 

[rofif]

I don't trust qd oled just yet. Seen too many burn in reports from rtings and reviews with weird coatings that are too matt.
I am just using lg c1 48" tv and would upgrade to c5 48" if this one broke today.
But it's 13k hours and no burn in yet.... over 4 years.

But not gonna lie... 480hz qd oled probably looks insane. If I had to get one, I would get LG

 

[sertopico]

I got the AW3423DWF in December 2023, since I finally wanted to try an HDR monitor with my 4090. I would never go back to an IPS. Colors and response times are two worlds apart. BUT! VRR flickering is indeed a thing, 90% of the times you will notice it during loading screens and game menus only, but occasionally it might occur when gaming if the framerate is not stable enough, and it sucks. First time I saw it was when playing KCD2, and it's really noticeable. Regarding burn in I have been lucky, so far so good. I use the monitor not only for gaming, I code on it, work on it, and there is still no trace of image retention. Of course there are many things you have to be aware of, like not having any icons on the desktop, hiding the taskbar, cycling backgrounds, choosing black themes over white themes, and so on. Despite all this, I don't regret buying it at all.

Text readability is also a thing due to the peculiar rgb pattern, but I got used to it. edit: also having to do a pixel refresh every 4 hours might be annoying for some.

 

[The Cockatrice]

I got the AW3423DWF in December 2023, since I finally wanted to try an HDR monitor with my 4090. I would never go back to an IPS. Colors and response times are two worlds apart. BUT! VRR flickering is indeed a thing, 90% of the times you will notice it during loading screens and game menus only, but occasionally it might occur when gaming if the framerate is not stable enough, and it sucks. First time I saw it was when playing KCD2, and it's really noticeable. Regarding burn in I have been lucky, so far so good. I use the monitor not only for gaming, I code on it, work on it, and there is still no trace of image retention. Of course there are many things you have to be aware of, like not having any icons on the desktop, hiding the taskbar, cycling backgrounds, choosing black themes over white themes, and so on. Despite all this, I don't regret buying it at all.

Text readability is also a thing due to the peculiar rgb pattern, but I got used to it. edit: also having to do a pixel refresh every 4 hours might be annoying for some.

Damn, maybe I should just get a cheap IPS and stick with it until something better comes out. Meh.

 

[TheRaidenPT]

I own like 3 OLED monitors (we have day to day house and a weekend apartment), I have a 27GX", 32"GS95 and the 34" G8 Odyssey. You really need to have a good graphics card and 3D cache CPU in order to ensure you have stable FPS to not cause VRR flicker, I personally own a 7900XTX and usually play on my TV and with FreeSync Premium I can quite avoid it.

However it does get slightly complicated with the 4080 I own mixed with my LG OLED C4/B4/G3, it's very game dependant and if you fluctuate frame rate around..My best recommendation is at 4K locking most of the heavy games at 75@hz

 

[phant0m]

I absolutely LOVE my Alienware AW3225qf, it's the best display I've ever gamed on. Replaced my previous 144hz IPS display.

IDK what this VRR flicker is, it either doesn't bother me or I don't notice it

Dell Alienware AW3225QF Review

The Dell AW3225QF is a premium 4k 240Hz QD-OLED gaming monitor. It competes with a number of other 32-inch QD-OLEDs, such as the MSI MPG 322URX QD-OLED, the Giga...

www.rtings.com

 

[dolabla]

It's there. I notice it on my S90D and C4. But it doesn't really break the experience for me. It's only really noticeable in dark environments when you have framerate fluctuating. I think Samsung monitors have a setting you can turn on that nearly eliminates it at the expense of slightly more input lag.

 

[Hashassin]

See? Post videos with dorks in it and you get banned. This is proof right here。

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I can't say I've noticed any flicker on my Samsung Odyssey G6 OLED. Although I don't know if it's a QDOLED or just standard OLED.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Samsung Odyssey G6 OLED (G60SD) owner here.

Terrific display that runs circles around my LG CX. No VRR flicker too, both on PC and PS5.

 

[Hoddi]

I got the AW3423DWF in December 2023, since I finally wanted to try an HDR monitor with my 4090. I would never go back to an IPS. Colors and response times are two worlds apart. BUT! VRR flickering is indeed a thing, 90% of the times you will notice it during loading screens and game menus only, but occasionally it might occur when gaming if the framerate is not stable enough, and it sucks. First time I saw it was when playing KCD2, and it's really noticeable. Regarding burn in I have been lucky, so far so good. I use the monitor not only for gaming, I code on it, work on it, and there is still no trace of image retention. Of course there are many things you have to be aware of, like not having any icons on the desktop, hiding the taskbar, cycling backgrounds, choosing black themes over white themes, and so on. Despite all this, I don't regret buying it at all.

Text readability is also a thing due to the peculiar rgb pattern, but I got used to it. edit: also having to do a pixel refresh every 4 hours might be annoying for some.

Similar story with my own monitor with over 8000 hours on it. It's 90% a work monitor and I see no visible retention even on single color slides. But I also run most things windowed rather than fullscreen which probably helps.

If people don't mind making a few adjustments then I don't think it's worth stressing over burn-in these days. Or at least no more than on CRTs back in the day.

Edit: I only really notice VRR flicker on loading screens though.

 

[IFireflyl]

Oh no, the OP is banned.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

People worry about OLED burn-in, but LCD has it's own problems. LCD's (especially edge-lit) have significant backlight durability issues.

I'm going to buy QD-OLED soon and I dont worry about burn-in, especially on the 4-th gen QD-OLEDs that offer twice the reliability (thanks to 5 stack / layer structure) compared to already very reliable gen 3 panels.

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/gen-4-samsung-qd-oled-2025-panels-and-improvements

Samsung Display told us that this new EL 3.0 panel structure also has significant durability improvements with around 2x the durability from older generation panels. They even went as far to say that anecdotally based on both their own internal long-term testing, and feedback from external reviewers and the market, they have very high levels of faith in the performance of their panels now and do not consider image retention or burn-in a risk unless you really "abuse the panels".

If I start to see burn-in after about five years, I'll just buy another OLED TV, which will probably be even more durable. I'm not going back to LCD monitors, especially edge lit.

 

[rodrigolfp]

People worry about OLED burn-in, but LCD has it's own problems. LCD's (especially edge-lit) have significant backlight durability issues.

I'm going to buy QD-OLED soon and I dont worry about burn-in, especially on the 4-th gen QD-OLEDs that offer twice the reliability (thanks to 5 stack / layer structure) compared to already very reliable gen 3 panels.

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/gen-4-samsung-qd-oled-2025-panels-and-improvements

If I start to see burn-in after about five years, I'll just buy another OLED TV, which will probably be even more durable. I'm not going back to LCD monitors, especially edge lit.

We just swap the back lights. No need to buy another TV.

 

[Erebus]

The VRR flicker on my LG OLED can get pretty nauseating at times. It really depends on the game and how much the frame times fluctuate. It's especially noticeable in darker games, less so in titles with brighter, more vibrant visuals. Sometimes I even have to completely disable G-Sync just to avoid eye strain and be able to tolerate playing.

It's funny because prior to buying an OLED screen, I hadn't heard anything about the issue even though I follow and watch tech reviews regularly.

Aside from that, the benefits of OLED are obvious.

 

[nemiroff]

Keep in mind it's not like VRR flicker doesn't exist on other panels, IPS, VA. I had more VRR flicker on my Samsung G-Sync VA QLED than on my QD-OLED. Actually, for some reason I don't see much of any flicker on the QD-OLED (Asus ROG Swift PG32UCDP) with VRR enabled.

 

[Buggy Loop]

What's VRR flicker? First time I hear this

Do G-sync modules have it? The newer G-sync pulsar?

 

[Erebus]

What's VRR flicker? First time I hear this

Do G-sync modules have it? The newer G-sync pulsar?

Don't quote me on this but I think it's due to PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) or how OLED panels modulate brightness at different refresh cycles. That's the reason it's more noticeable on OLEDs.

 

[MarV0]

People worry about OLED burn-in, but LCD has it's own problems. LCD's (especially edge-lit) have significant backlight durability issues.



I'm going to buy QD-OLED soon and I dont worry about burn-in, especially on the 4-th gen QD-OLEDs that offer twice the reliability (thanks to 5 stack / layer structure) compared to already very reliable gen 3 panels.

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/gen-4-samsung-qd-oled-2025-panels-and-improvements




If I start to see burn-in after about five years, I'll just buy another OLED TV, which will probably be even more durable. I'm not going back to LCD monitors, especially edge lit.

PR nonsense. If that was the case they would cover burn in under warranty no questions asked.

The only company that offers proper burn in cover is Dell and in another forum there are guys that are in their 4th panel in the space of a couple of years.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

PR nonsense. If that was the case they would cover burn in under warranty no questions asked.

The only company that offers proper burn in cover is Dell and in another forum there are guys that are in their 4th panel in the space of a couple of years.

You might think it's just PR, but many tech YouTubers have been using Gen 3 panels for over a year now, so we know what to expect. For example Tim from Monitors Unboxed stress-tested his 3'th gen QD-OLED for eight hours per day with static content and even after a full year, signs of burn-in are faint.



He's also been using a first-generation QD-OLED for over three years:




Now, we have the Gen 4 panels, which use a five-stack structure that significantly reduces strain on individual pixels (and according to Samsung offers twice the reliability), so I think it's reasonable to expect 5 years of usage without significant burn-in.

 

[Signalis]

This woman from Rtings looks fatter, dirtier and more unkempt with each video thumbnail I see.