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Question About Firefly
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boredJonathan
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Iceman said:
yes. but I think that was in reference to the total time they have been on board. So 8 months total.
Say 5 or 6 for the actual show, and then a month to pass for the comic stories (which I need to find!!!), and then the movie? That sound about right?
pnjtony said:
Actually.. there was hints. She did some crazy stuff in the series, but nothing quite like the film. It made sense and was a logical, (if slightly predictable), angle to go with.
pnjtony said:
I found River Tam, in general, to be the least interesting character in the series, to the point where I was disappointed when I figured out that the film was going to focus on her (though I guess that River's storyline was the plot point that most urgently needed to be wrapped up).
Which is to say that there are a number of other things that make the show worth watching besides River's plotline--I'd go so far as to say that River's plotline is not one of the things that makes the show worth watching.
EDIT: so you know where I'm coming from opinion-wise, I think there are several episodes of the TV series that have better writing and directing than the film, and that the film's overrated.
cubicle47b
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I don't remember her kicking the shit out of anyone but she definitely knew how to shoot a gun on the show (without even looking where she was shooting). It didn't seem out of place in the movie.
cubicle47b
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There was less than a minute between our replies (so I didn't know) and everyone knows from the movie trailer that she's some sort of super weapon.
edit: Plus Manabyte is spreading misinformation and it deserves to be countered without spoiler tags.
edit: Plus Manabyte is spreading misinformation and it deserves to be countered without spoiler tags.
boredJonathan
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Wow, defensive much? I think most Firefly fans are fans of Sci-fi in general, if not a good story first, and after having years and years of garbage shoved down out throat we were pretty damn happy to have a good movie we could point too again. Sorry if your sci-fi series of choice just happened to be the dreck we were all getting force fed.ManaByte said:
While the movie is fantastic, it isn't perfect, and I doubt any fan of the series would say otherwise in an honest debate. So lay off.
Agreed, 100%. Not a bad character, but really they most predictable one in the bunch. It was the kind of main underlying arc of the series, and thus needed to be wrapped up first, but I think there is much more interesting subject material to work with within the Firefly/Serenity universe. Hopefully we'll get to see some of that fleshed out in future projects.Prospero said:
Well, my copy of the Firefly series is on it's way and I was just wondering how everything fit together. Some things I noticed about the movie though.
It felt like that opening scene with Simon, the getaway and then the bad guy was written and directed by someone else alltogether separate from the rest of the movie. Did anyone else notice that? It was like all slick and shit, then it went to making wisecracks about grenades. Don't get me wrong, I totally loved the laid back and humor in the movie, it just felt wierd. Plus the budding little romance with Simon and that loading dock chick was wierd. Like they mentioned it in the beginning and you didn't see anything else til the end. All of a sudden they're having sex.
It felt like that opening scene with Simon, the getaway and then the bad guy was written and directed by someone else alltogether separate from the rest of the movie. Did anyone else notice that? It was like all slick and shit, then it went to making wisecracks about grenades. Don't get me wrong, I totally loved the laid back and humor in the movie, it just felt wierd. Plus the budding little romance with Simon and that loading dock chick was wierd. Like they mentioned it in the beginning and you didn't see anything else til the end. All of a sudden they're having sex.
Red Mercury said:
While there are a few that are as you described, the majority are die-hard Whedon worshippers who see everything he touches as completely perfect - including Serenity and they go so far as to attack things completely unrelated.
At Comic Con, DC was going to file a complaint against Universal after Universal supplied Browncoats with Serenity stickers and the Browncoats went and plastered the stickers all over the Batman Begins and Superman Returns posters in the DC booth. They DID complain to Comic Con at the gripe panel about the vandalism.
As far as SciFi fans go, the majority of Browncoats are on the Greenpeace/PETA fringe of things.
Red Mercury said:
I agree, but I'll be surprised if we see any more Firefly-based films.
Box Office Mojo said:
Theaters get around 50% of the gross (a little more or less, depending on the deal the chain cuts with the studio). So at around $14 million going back to the studio, the film is still around $25 million in the hole, not counting what was spent on advertising. It will take a long time for Serenity to make that back on DVD, cable, and network TV, if it ever makes it back.
I'm kind of surprised at how poorly the film's doing--though I wouldn't rank it anywhere near the best films I've seen this year, it's certainly better than Hitchhiker's or Sky Captain (though I had a soft spot for Riddick, and given the choice between watching Serenity or Riddick again, I'd probably take Riddick). Serenity's terrible initial trailer could have been part of the problem.
On the whole, it seemed like Universal's advertising plan was to whip up the rabid fanbase and depend on them to evangelize; it may be the case that that backfired. To be fair to ManaByte, a number of Firefly fanboys (especially online) really are crazy as hell and devoid of any critical judgment, and their behavior may have done the film a disservice in the end.
The end result is that I'll probably never get to see a movie in which the Serenity crew engages in a ridiculously elaborate and cunning operation to steal some insanely valuable McGuffin, only to have a monkeywrench thrown in their plans by
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boredJonathan
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Prospero said:
Man... I'd kill for that film. Maybe I am one of those crazy fan boys then.
Those episodes were always the best, and honestly.. it probably would have made a better film. Introduce River to the general public, hint again at her backstory. Don't
kill off any of the crew
Seriously though, while I think the film will make its budget back, and while we might not see a second film, I do hope that the series will live on in some way. Ideally, I'd like to see one more flick, maybe two setting up a return to TV. Barring that.. well I don't know how it would return. Not enough interest obviously to bring it back as a series, unfortunately. I doubt the comic books have been tearing up the charts.
I disagree (and I still can't believe that anybody likes the near-unwatchable mess that is Riddick), but it's undeniable that both films were far better marketed than Serenity. And Sky Captain had some actual star power.Prospero said:
Mana actually has a point, but given his relentless Lucas cocksucking... you know, glass houses and all.
(I may think Serenity is overrated, but I can agree that it shits all over the Star Wars prequels.)
Best (maybe) example of fans in denial: "I guess word-of-mouth doesn't mean much anymore!" As though it were unthinkable that Serenity might, you know, not be getting such great word of mouth. Shock.
Kabuki Waq
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manabyte is just pissed cause firefly and serenity make starwars look like shit.
Mike Works
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ManaByte said:
Comic Con.
this thread.
Comic Con.
this thread.
Do you see the difference, Manabyte?
I MAY SEEM DEFENSIVE TO YOU BUT I WAS ONLY ATTACKING THE PEOPLE WHO PUT STICKERS OVER BATMAN AT COMICCON SO IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR WHAT I SAID BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE POSTING IN THIS THREAD EPCOT CENTER 4EVER
You are such a massive tool.
FoneBone said:
I'll put it this way--I was bored through about two-thirds of Hitchhiker's, and I was bored during all but about ten minutes of Sky Captain (and I still have a grudge against Ebert for giving that a four-star review). For me those rank among the worst movies I've paid to see in a theater in the past five years. On the other hand, I was only bored through about the middle third of Serenity.
Riddick may have been an utter train wreck, but I'll say this for it--I was never bored. I acknowledge that it's a bad movie, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't like watching it, if only for Colm Feore and Judi Dench slumming it for a paycheck.
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pnjtony said:
in the final 2 or 3 episodes she does some ass kicking, not physically though. shooting and outsmarting a guy real bad.
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