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Question about narutofan.com

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bjork

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How in the hell can they charge for fansub downloads? I thought fansubs were a fuzzy area as it is, but they charge you to access someone else's tv shows?

Seems like it's prisonworthy to me.
 

aoi tsuki

Member
Unless they've changed it, they charge for access to the faster server. The standard server is free, but is so slow it's not worth it.
 
triste said:
So it's a fee to access content they don't own.

Okay, I was just clearing that up.

Question: are you seriously complaining, or just trying to bait people into a pointless debate (as this has been covered w/ no resolution in another thread sometime ago) for the hell of it?

Of course, I agree that it's wrong to charge for the subs ... but I'm just saying
 
Tazmo the guy who runs these sites is very much disliked for his money hungry ways.

there is a site called StopTazmo named in his honor :)
 

aoi tsuki

Member
Smiles and Cries said:
Tazmo the guy who runs these sites is very much disliked for his money hungry ways.

there is a site called StopTazmo named in his honor :)
A parody site for a guy who runs a site that sells access to anime? Only on the internet. :lol
 

Zaptruder

Banned
aoi tsuki said:
A parody site for a guy who runs a site that sells access to anime? Only on the internet. :lol

It's not really a parody site... but I can see how you'd think it would be one.
 

tenchir

Member
To be fair, you think it's cheap to host like 150 episodes(175 MB each) and expect the bandwidth to last a month? I'm surprised that Narutofan still has the old manga chapters to download..... AND that the links still works!

edit: This really isn't any different compared to services like streamload where they charge you per megabyte just to download at brazing speed.

edit 2: The pay thing is just an option for people who want to download and can't be bothered with sharing on bittorrent or for people who can't use bittorrent. It might be wrong if the guy wanted money, but who does it hurt? Is he charging a lot of money or something?
 

aoi tsuki

Member
tenchir said:
To be fair, you think it's cheap to host like 150 episodes(175 MB each) and expect the bandwidth to last a month? I'm surprised that Narutofan still has the old manga chapters to download..... AND that the links still works!

edit: This really isn't any different compared to services like streamload where they charge you per megabyte just to download at brazing speed.

edit 2: The pay thing is just an option for people who want to download and can't be bothered with sharing on bittorrent or for people who can't use bittorrent. It might be wrong if the guy wanted money, but who does it hurt? Is he charging a lot of money or something?
i don't think anyone expects that, but the thing is, while the argument could go either way, he's still charging for access to copyrighted material.

i'm surprised that the manga downloads work too, but the whole idea of a website offering anime downloads (or any other copyrighted content) nowadays is pretty pointless. What's in it for the founder -- e-fame? Buying hosts that offer higher bandwidth and begging for donations, while the inevitable shutdown/change of focus looms nearer as the site gets more popular... Where do i sign up? i'm glad that narutofan.com is up, but i won't cry when it gets shut down or if all the downloads move to the pay server.

And who does it hurt? It hurts the companies who produce the anime, the anime's artists, etc. TV rips are good enough for most people to decide not to get the DVD, and then when the DVD's released, it gets ripped and posted too. And i can see how some would justify it -- "Why should I pay for overpriced DVDs when i can download them for a fraction of the cost from Naruto Fan?"
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
It's called Bit Torrent, first of all. Anyone who pays for premium nbzfan access is a tard.
 

Blimblim

The Inside Track
EviLore said:
It's called Bit Torrent, first of all. Anyone who pays for premium nbzfan access is a tard.
While I certainly don't agree with having anyone pay for fansubs, you have to remember that quite a lot of people are stuck being heavily restricted firewalls, and have no way to use Bittorrent or IRC.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Nbz is one of, if not the, most widely available anime series on the internet. Every P2P network will have the episodes, and there are other free direct download locations as well.
 

Blimblim

The Inside Track
EviLore said:
Nbz is one of, if not the, most widely available anime series on the internet. Every P2P network will have the episodes, and there are other free direct download locations as well.
Like I said before, I don't approve of having people pay for what they should get for free. I certainly never looked for sites where I could download the latest episodes so I don't really know how this all works. But I think anyone who can only use port 80 behind a firewall could have a hard time finding any anime he wants. Maybe Naruto is more easy to get, true.
 

Aruarian Reflection

Chauffeur de la gdlk
Even if you don't have Bittorrent, there's lots of people in the Narutofan forums who willingly upload the newest episode to Yousendit.com for a direct download. There's always options, don't succumb to the evil Tazmo!
 

bjork

Member
ManDudeChild said:
Question: are you seriously complaining, or just trying to bait people into a pointless debate (as this has been covered w/ no resolution in another thread sometime ago) for the hell of it?

Of course, I agree that it's wrong to charge for the subs ... but I'm just saying

Neither, I just overheard customers talking about this and thought it was odd that this was actually allowed to go on.
 
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