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Raptor 2 pushing 230 tons of thrust

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
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SpaceX's new Raptor 2 engine is being tested. Raptor v1 was already the most advanced rocket engine ever produced. V2 takes it up from 185 tons of thrust to 230 tons.




Very cool to see the design evolution from v1 to v2:

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(v2 on the left here)

Engineering marvels.
 

SJRB

Gold Member


The complete video of last night's update on Starship.

It's a good watch, even if Elon's mind occasionally seems to wander off making his presentation a bit incoherent at times. Like always.
 
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Fools idol

Banned
The engineering here is on a whole other level of incredible.

They really do have the best minds in the world working at Tesla and Spacex
 

MastaKiiLA

Member
It's really amazing. Not only the performance gains, but the packaging too. They've cut down significantly on the weight of each unit. What's the most amazing part of it is that this is currently the most-difficult engine to design, a closed-cycle methalox engine, and they're already shrinking the design. No wonder they keep increasing the engine counts on the 2 stages.
 
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Deleted member 1159

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What’s the reduction in total part count is what I would like to know. It looks insane.
With just a layman's look at the two design's side-by-side, it's already impressive. The increase in performance is certainly huge but reliability is king.
 

DanteFox

Member
It truly is a work horse of an engine. They have it so dialed in at this point. The fact that it's methalox full flow, that powerful, and throttlable is so freaking cool.
 
Yawn, call me when it is atomic...

or even better, the nuclear bomb powered Orion!

I hate to hijack EviLore's great thread, but I just came across an interesting piece of Project Orion's history in the excellent book by J. Storrs Hall, Where is My Flying Car?

On the other hand, there is always the far end of the Orion research: the super-Orion propelled by hydrogen fusion bombs instead of small fission ones. [Freeman] Dyson wrote,

"... A ship with a million-ton payload could escape from the Earth with the expenditure of about a thousand H-bombs with yields of a few megatons. The fuel cost of such a mission would be about 5 cents per pound of payload at present prices. Each bomb would be surrounded by a thousand tons of inert propellant material, and it would be easy to load this material with boron to such an extent that practically no neutrons escape to the atmosphere. The atmospheric contamination would only arise from tritium and from fission products. Preliminary studies indicate that the tritium contamination from such a series of high-yield explosions would not approach biologically significant levels."

They estimated that the biggest ship they could get off the ground would be about 8 million tons. For comparison, a modern high-end cruise ship grosses 126,000 tons and carries 3000 people. [236]  An 8 million ton ship could carry something like 200,000 people, in similar luxury.

One key fact about the Orion technology was that the total atmospheric contamination for a launch was roughly the same no matter what size the ship; so that there would be an impetus toward larger ones.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
The engineering here is on a whole other level of incredible.

They really do have the best minds in the world working at Tesla and Spacex

Rationally I know this, yet I always find myself wondering why the most cutting edge space vehicles look less like a precision machined BMW engine, and more like something a dodgy English plumber would gobble together out of spare parts and hide behind damp pub toilet paneling.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Rationally I know this, yet I always find myself wondering why the most cutting edge space vehicles look less like a precision machined BMW engine, and more like something a dodgy English plumber would gobble together out of spare parts and hide behind damp pub toilet paneling.
Because the emphasis is almost 100% on how it will work and not on how sexy it looks. If rocket tech matures a bit, then the aesthetics folks can come in and add some carbon Fibre and chrome accents :p
 
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