Dick Jones
Banned
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kingfey
Banned
It creates a fear to other people. Banning this much numbers, would mean you could be next for these cheaters. It wont stop everyone, But putting fear in the weak cheaters is a good result.
carlosrox
Banned
They need to take action on pieces of shit who quit the game while they're downed just so you don't get credit for the kill.
I see that a lot. I see that way more than cheaters. In all my time with WZ I've personally seen maybe 3 actual, obvious cheaters.
There should be at least a small penalty for pussies who do that shit.
I see that a lot. I see that way more than cheaters. In all my time with WZ I've personally seen maybe 3 actual, obvious cheaters.
There should be at least a small penalty for pussies who do that shit.
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WitchHunter
Banned
They get a machine id and watch how people adapt, then kick them again.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Its not just on PC though the vast majority are on PC the cheats on consoles are growing fast
Dzab
Member
I guess, but they also banned 50,000 in July and there's been more hackers than ever since then. I used to rarely run into them, but the last two weeks they've been every other game.
We've literally seen clips, and streams of hackers straight up saying they just make more accounts when they get banned, there's no reason for them not to.
Yeah, especially with those Cronus things and how easy they can be to use.
Klik
Member
Same. I remember when they banned 700.000 cheaters on PC in first few months on Apex Legends. It was like wtf. Played for years CSGO, too much trouble with cheaters. Many of them are not obvious, its just wallhacks, radar and something not obvious but are still cheats.
It took me about 6 months of grinding with controller but now im comfortable with it and really happy i made change.
Klik
Member
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No its not growing.Cheating on console is almost non-existant. Also its REALLY REALLY hard to cheat and even if someone manage to cheat he would be banned within an hour/day/week and then say goodbye from console.On PC you're banned from game, on console youre banned from whole PSN online.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Apex Legends bans 2000+ "dashboarding" cheaters
"Sucks to miss the opening of a new season, come back next time around and enjoy the game how its meant to be played"
"Interestingly, of the 2,086 accounts that had been banned,1,965 were seemingly cheating on PS4. Of the 121 accounts remaining, 62 were on Xbox consoles, 44 on PC, and 15 on Nintendo Switch."
Also, I'd say stuff like Xim on consoles is pretty unfair as well
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
So so wrong there are plenty of cheating devices out there on console and people as of now are not getting banned in massive waves yet
Good glad to see console players getting nailed
Apex Legends bans 2000+ "dashboarding" cheaters
"Sucks to miss the opening of a new season, come back next time around and enjoy the game how its meant to be played"www.gamesradar.com
"Interestingly, of the 2,086 accounts that had been banned,1,965 were seemingly cheating on PS4. Of the 121 accounts remaining, 62 were on Xbox consoles, 44 on PC, and 15 on Nintendo Switch."
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kingfey
Banned
I agree with klik. I can make a new warzone account. Consoles cant. If your primary Psn account gets banned, you are done, You wont play the game with that account. More bans, and you might risk a console ban.
For pc, its just a free account. You can make 20 accounts, and you will play them, like its nothing. Its why pc have more hackers. Its easy to make an account, and face no consequences.
They will need a device ID to stop future cheaters on pc. Without that, good luck eliminating pc cheaters.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Good bye fuckers
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I talked with Mike Ybarra many times about this very thing while he was at Xbox and he told me repeatedly at least Xbox would not take that stand to ban players using these console devices that hack games it was up to each Dev to remove the people from their game.
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Red-Town
Member
Good luck getting into a match without having cross play enabled though. I play on both PC and PS5 but can't never get into a match if I have cross play disabled on PS5.
kingfey
Banned
Devs can still request Xbox to permanent ban these guys. Between players or devs, which one will xbox listen to?
a multicultural team of v
Member
If a Cronus was the only "cheating" I had to deal with playing Warzone it would be a paradise.
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[Sigma]
Member
Yeah, this is what made me mad about the way Battlefield 2042 implementation. I expect similar results if I disable it.
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
its kind of sad that there were 50k ppl cheating on an online game
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I just told you Mike said Xbox wouldnt ban people from their console it was up to the devs to ban them from that game.
Plus I have said this before but my nephews cheat like crazy on PS4 with those FPS Strike Packs and use the paid mods called Modpass and they have never been banned.
kingfey
Banned
An Xbox Live device ban is only issued in extreme cases and for the most serious of violations. Here are a few of the reasons a device ban is issued:
- Xbox console tampering, such as physically opening an Xbox console and modifying it to play illegitimate or unauthorized software
- Online fraud, such as phishing, account theft, or other attempts to defraud Microsoft or other players
- Repeating serious violations of the Microsoft Services Agreement that establish a clear pattern of nefarious activity
Community Standards for Xbox
vi. Where there are limits, there's a reason
It's never fun to lose access to Xbox features, but know that when we put restrictions in place, we do so to help ensure everyone's safety or improve an experience for the community. Attempting to circumvent restrictions can affect both customer privacy and the integrity of Microsoft or partner services. For the safety of all, it's important to respect deliberate limitations.For example, don't:
- Create alternate Microsoft accounts to circumvent a suspension or restriction
vii. Harmful behavior has no place on Xbox
Cheating, tampering, and the use of exploitsSince competition is best when it's fair, a level playing field is one of the most important requirements for gaming. When people cheat, use exploits, or otherwise tamper with hardware or software to gain a competitive advantage, it ruins the experience for everyone. Because of this, cheating, tampering, and the use of exploits is never acceptable in the Xbox community. Like, never.
For example, don't:
- Use "mods" in games that do not allow modded content
- Use a glitch that lets you use your character outside of a multiplayer map
- Use specialized software to gain unfair advantage over other players
- Use Xbox services with modified or tampered hardware
- Manipulate game stats to gain a competitive advantage against other players
- Use multiple profiles to unfairly manipulate your multiplayer rank
- Try to circumvent in-game economies through "money drop lobbies"
- Use unauthorized hardware or accessories
- Use exploits to "duplicate" in-game items
- Intentionally play with or support someone who uses harmful or inappropriate mods
- Intentionally "teamkill" other players
If you want to read it.
Xbox Community Standards | Xbox
Learn about the Xbox code of conduct and community standards to uphold. Help create the safe and enjoyable community all gamers can enjoy being a part of.
www.xbox.com
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
There's no cheating to worry about on XboxOne as the console was never exploited like PS4 was due to the kernel security this is what completely fucked GTA online early on to.
The same goes for PS5 & XsX. These 50,000 cheaters would of been PC only I can guarantee it, it's why I stopped playing honestly PC is completely ruined by hackers now it's been growing for years to near unenjoyable situation. Siege is the same, allow console cross play and allow us to ban cross play with PC players.
People will come in here but but but the modified controllers and less recoil packs! Anyone can take someone unskilled using those type of aids out easily it's not even a challenge, being seen across the map or before you go around a corner is impossible to counter.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I wont keep going back and forth with you guys thinking consoles are totally safe from cheating as I literally told you my nephews cheat and I have seen it in action.
There are several devices out there that plugs into controllers and alters the game.
They pay for this Modpass and it is flat cheating on console. Look at this site and tell me this isnt cheating.
And they have been doing it for years and never caught.
MOD PASS | HOME
01011001
Banned
the only way you can currently cheat on console is using a strike pack/chronus to have automatic recoil control... that's basically all you can do. the Xbox One is not jailbroken whatsoever, and the PS4 is really hard to jailbreak for the average joe.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Strike Pack is what I was referring to which is sold in most retailers right next to the controllers
haveagood1
Member
I could sacrifice my youngest he is a gingerI'm still holding out hope that one day we'll see the thread, "Raven Software is working on Soldier of Fortune reboot".
01011001
Banned
well, but to be fair... recoil control is not something you actually need in CoD... it is a pest in Apex Legends tho.
I wonder how hard it would be to build in a system that detects strike pack usage in-game, or maybe on a console level. Microsoft and Sony should look into banning that shit.
I also wonder if Activision and EA could sue the Cronus developers for providing cheat software for their game, which ultimately has a damaging effect on the game's playerbase
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Like I said previously Mike had said Xbox 100% knew when people were using them but since it only alters how the game functioned they wouldnt ban people Xbox wide it was up to each game dev to remove that person.
01011001
Banned
then I wonder why the game devs don't do it. also I kinda hope Microsoft changes their stance on this and simply do a system wide ban for people using it. maybe give a warning period to tell people to stop using them, and after that just ban everyone who uses one.
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
Do you even know how easy it is to cheat on consoles - without ever getting caught?
Take a look at Strikepack, Titan Two and Cronus Zen. In combination with Xim Apex you can play mouse and keyboard with no-recoil, rapid-fire, macros and a bunch of other cheats.
And don't even get me started on machine learning scripts:
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Obviously Mike has been gone from Xbox awhile so I dont know their recent stance on these devices but I know my nephews havent been stopped yet and they use them in tons of different games on their PS4s
No people who says there are no cheats on consoles do not know how things work.
100%
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kingfey
Banned
PS4=/=Xbox. Xbox is very serious with this matter, considering the parent company is MS, which is known to give a crap about its security, unlike Sony.
If Xbox has more cheaters, this could hurt MS image as a security expert business. That is why, they are harsher with their TOS.
Craig of War
Banned
you ban 50k but another 100k of cheaters pop up the cycle never ends.
Yoboman
Member
I live in Australia and its especially bad in battle royale games where the servers get paired up with a lot of people from China. They all cheat like crazy
bender
What time is it?
You son of a bitch. I was going to post this. noooooooooooooooo
HTK
Banned
I'll go against a strike pack any day of the week and twice on Sunday over walls/aimbotters on PC.
01011001
Banned
yeah, I mean have you seen the banned list in Apex? PS4 was like 2000 and the rest of the systems were all below 100
edit: here the numbers of cheating players per platform that were banned recently in Apex Legends:
PC-44
PS4- 1,965
Switch- 15
Xbox- 62
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Elbow Identity Shallow
Member
Yeah, I have no idea who Raven are and I haven't played the game but either way, that is a hell of a lot of banned people.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
People trying to argue that it's even remotely as bad on consoles as it on PC are straight up delusional.
onesvenus
Member
Do we have any kind of evidence suggesting PS is banning PS accounts when you cheat? I know people who has been using cheating devices for a long time and they are still playing with the same account.
Being not as bad doesn't mean it isn't. Also, see Apex last massive banning where 90% of them were Playstation users