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[Draugoth]

Redfall didn't come close to meeting expectations and has instead been one of the biggest disappointments that Xbox fans have seen in a long time. With this in mind, it looks like many have opted to skip out on playing Redfall completely.

As noted by those on Reddit recently, Redfall's player count on Steam is basically nonexistent. When looking at data from SteamDB, which is a site that tracks usage on Steam, Redfall is only amassing roughly 20 players across the entire platform. As of this weekend, the game happened to peak at a mere 38 players in total, which is absolutely dreadful, to say the least.

The big caveat with this situation is that this data only stems from Steam, which is likely the platform on PC that Xbox players interact with the least. Given that Redfall is available to play via Xbox Game Pass, there's a good chance that many who have played Redfall for themselves have downloaded it through the Microsoft Store. Still, if this Steam data is indicative of how the shooter is performing on other platforms, it spells very bad news for Xbox and Bethesda.

 

[Luipadre]

 

[RoboFu]

No one cares obviously.

It spells bad news to ms and Bethesda? Lol they will be fine. They have this little indie game launching in two days.

 

[havoc00]

Still playing!

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

6000 all time peak... That's hilarious lol

 

[Wildebeest]

People aren't even gifting this on steam to prank their bros.

 

[Sybrix]

Starfield is next?

 

[MidGenRefresh]

AMD be like: THIS IS A PERFECT CANDITATE TO SHOWCASE OUR NEWEST RECONSTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY!!!

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Come on, if they stuck with the game this long, they're probably better than "average"

 

[graywolf323]

Starfield is next?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Starfield has more people playing simultaneously on Steam during the premium early access period than Redfall‘s all-time high

 

[Fake]

Shit game...

 

[Elbereth]

Clearly a lot of folks are waiting on the patch…
At least a few are…
Maybe a couple are?…








I tried

 

[Gaiff]

Well, they did say the Series X would have more flops than the Playstation 5.

 

[Laptop1991]

And that was the audience Zenimax were aiming for with their live service push for all their IP's, 15 players, don't think they were gonna make that much money in the end lol

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

This game is the reason I refuse to buy the premium edition of Starfield before seeing real reviews and impressions on the performance for PC.

I just don't trust anything MS says before their games are released. Still can't believed they released this crap and put marketing dollars behind it.

 

[LordCBH]

Microsoft would have been smarter to have aborted this game as soon as they saw the state it was in. Absolutely insane.

 

[MMaRsu]

This game is the reason I refuse to buy the premium edition of Starfield before seeing real reviews and impressions on the performance for PC.

I just don't trust anything MS says before their games are released. Still can't believed they released this crap and put marketing dollars behind it.

Todd Howard hasnt directed a game under 85MC. Starfield is from a totally different developer.

Its like saying 'Im not buying GTA 6 because Mafia remake was wack'

 

[MMaRsu]

Well, they did say the Series X would have more flops than the Playstation 5.

This is on Zenimax.. not MS

Should they have interfered? For sure. But game was developed and greenlit under Zenimax.

 

[Stuart360]

I have Gamepass and i still havent played this. I just have no desire to, even though i am a little interested to see whats so bad about it.

 

[Gaiff]

This is on Zenimax.. not MS

Should they have interfered? For sure. But game was developed and greenlit under Zenimax.

And it changes what to my post? It's still an Xbox flop.

 

[clarky]

This is on Zenimax.. not MS

Should they have interfered? For sure. But game was developed and greenlit under Zenimax.

HHHmmm i'd say its on MS' toes as well. Just like if Starfield hits or misses the deserve some credit/shade at the very least.

Redfall should not have been released. When they bought them surely they took look at all the projects in development?

 

[Gaiff]

Microsoft would have been smarter to have aborted this game as soon as they saw the state it was in. Absolutely insane.

There was no winning for them this late in the game. Last time they did that with Scalebound, everyone was crying about it. They would have done that with Redfall and people would have cried that they canceled a great game and that they're ruining Arkane.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

Todd Howard hasnt directed a game under 85MC. Starfield is from a totally different developer.

Its like saying 'Im not buying GTA 6 because Mafia remake was wack'

And the GTA "definitive Edition". And the recent Red dead redemption "remaster". Not that you are wrong, GTA 6 should be a massive hit and I and many others will buy it day one no matter what. But a few people will want to have a look before buying. If this can happen to GTA, it can happen to Starfield too. AT least with Gamepass there is a easy way to try before buying if people are cautious.

 

[Virex]

Redfail?

 

[M.W.]

Pretty sure they moved on and are hoping everyone forgot about it.

 

[Big Baller]

 

[Daneel Elijah]

There was no winning for them this late in the game. Last time they did that with Scalebound, everyone was crying about it. They would have done that with Redfall and people would have cried that they canceled a great game and that they're ruining Arkane.

Better to for them to take the blame than Arkane. I agree with you that both options are shit but cancelling would have put the blame on Microsoft only. What they did hurt them both IMHO.

 

[Adam_802]

k

 

[MMaRsu]

And the GTA "definitive Edition". And the recent Red dead redemption "remaster". Not that you are wrong, GTA 6 should be a massive hit and I and many others will buy it day one no matter what. But a few people will want to have a look before buying. If this can happen to GTA, it can happen to Starfield too. AT least with Gamepass there is a easy way to try before buying if people are cautious.

No.

Different developer. This should be obvious to you.

Gta def edition was not done by Rockstar. Neither was RDR online. As such this should have zero bearing on gta 6.

 

[MMaRsu]

And it changes what to my post? It's still an Xbox flop.

HHHmmm i'd say its on MS' toes as well. Just like if Starfield hits or misses the deserve some credit/shade at the very least.

Redfall should not have been released. When they bought them surely they took look at all the projects in development?

No, phil said they were very hands off at first. That was their philosophy, to let the dev teams work and not interfere.

But then soon realized this was a big mistake.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Todd Howard hasnt directed a game under 85MC. Starfield is from a totally different developer.

Its like saying 'Im not buying GTA 6 because Mafia remake was wack'

No it’s not, GTA mainline games are usually high quality at launch.

Todd Howard games are known to launch with bugs.

Redfall and Starfield both launching in Game Pass, Xbox first party games and under ZeniMax.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

No.

Different developer. This should be obvious to you.

Gta def edition was not done by Rockstar. Neither was RDR online. As such this should have zero bearing on gta 6.

To you. And me. But not to some people in my opinion. Fallout 76 had on top of the game problems bad business decisions like the bag. Those are 100% Bethesda fault. Same for my complaints about recent Take Two games. Those issues can make gamers distrusful of new games. I think that some of my best gaming memories were made with GTA games. GTA 3 was my first PS2 game. So I know that GTA 6 will be day 1 no matter what for me. But I do know that things have changed since my youth and that I can expect a bad surprise or two when the game will be out. Do you believe that GTA 6 will be ok? Normal opinion. Can you garantee it? That is not the same thing. If you can see what I mean by that.

 

[Riky]

Still playing!

Just on the last boss.

This isn't surprising, although the patches have sorted a lot of issues it's still full of live service elements but with no matchmaking. Unless they add that it will never recover.

 

[MMaRsu]

To you. And me. But not to some people in my opinion. Fallout 76 had on top of the game problems bad business decisions like the bag. Those are 100% Bethesda fault. Same for my complaints about recent Take Two games. Those issues can make gamers distrusful of new games. I think that some of my best gaming memories were made with GTA games. GTA 3 was my first PS2 game. So I know that GTA 6 will be day 1 no matter what for me. But I do know that things have changed since my youth and that I can expect a bad surprise or two when the game will be out. Do you believe that GTA 6 will be ok? Normal opinion. Can you garantee it? That is not the same thing. If you can see what I mean by that.

Bethesda is a huge publisher that falls under Zenimax.

They have multiple teams, Arkane, IDsoft, Bethesda Game Studios and many more.

Bethesda Game Studios, and at the very least Todd's team did some help on Fallout 76, they werent the main developer.

I feel like if I have to explain this to people on a gaming board, yes normal casuals wont be able to make that connection or understand it.

To them, DOOM is made by the same company as Skyrim: Bethesda.

I can see what you mean, but for me, Rockstars latest game IS Red Dead Redemption 2. And that is true, they did not create the definitive editions.

And for ME, RDR2 is an insanely amazing game that is very high on my list.

So do I have faith in GTA6? Absolutely. Can I guarantee you it will be great? No i cannot.

 

[clarky]

No, phil said they were very hands off at first. That was their philosophy, to let the dev teams work and not interfere.

But then soon realized this was a big mistake.

Exactly my point. If i'd spent 7 billion and had a lack of first party i'd be very interested in my new studio's output. Its not rocket science, but it is stupidity if you don't.

They could have axed Redfall the moment they bought them and Arkane could be half way to something they actually wanted to work on by now. Hindsight is easy though i suppose. They learnt a big lesson there.

 

[SJRB]

All the fans are probably waiting for that tons of post-launch support that was promised.

 

[Timberwolf25]

Still playing!

I plan on playing it after the next big patch if all goes well. I'm in no rush as there a ton of games to play right now

 

[Reckheim]

All the fans are probably waiting for that tons of post-launch support that was promised.

I actually am lol. I like the art direction, if the performance was better on PC I actually could of got some enjoyment out of it.

 

[Deft Beck]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they just remove the game from sale and write off the development costs as a tax loss.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

Bethesda is a huge publisher that falls under Zenimax.

They have multiple teams, Arkane, IDsoft, Bethesda Game Studios and many more.

Bethesda Game Studios, and at the very least Todd's team did some help on Fallout 76, they werent the main developer.

I feel like if I have to explain this to people on a gaming board, yes normal casuals wont be able to make that connection or understand it.

To them, DOOM is made by the same company as Skyrim: Bethesda.

I can see what you mean, but for me, Rockstars latest game IS Red Dead Redemption 2. And that is true, they did not create the definitive editions.

And for ME, RDR2 is an insanely amazing game that is very high on my list.

So do I have faith in GTA6? Absolutely. Can I guarantee you it will be great? No i cannot.

And I mostly agree with that too. Just that the first part of the discussion is this from another poster:

I just don't trust anything MS says before their games are released. Still can't believed they released this crap and put marketing dollars behind it.

You trust Rockstar. I trust them too. But I can see people not trusting them because their publisher is shit. And Bethesda does not have the same reputation that Rockstar does. Nothing wrong with that. We will see the state of Starfield soon. And it will be good, or at least I hope so.

 

[Topher]

Equivalent to fiddling your thumbs while waiting for Starfield.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Equivalent to fiddling your thumbs while waiting for Starfield.

I've played Redfall on release and here I am now fiddling my thumbs while waiting for Starfield. I'm having way more fun now than I had back then.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Yeah, it's a shit game, tell me how Dreams is doing.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Game is essentially a tax write off like that shitty Batgirl film.

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's a turd...and shit happens. I feel sorry for those people playing it. If they're enjoying it...more power to them I guess?

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Yeah, it's a shit game, tell me how Dreams is doing.

Please explain what Dreams has to do with Redfall?

 

[Topher]

I've played Redfall on release and here I am now fiddling my thumbs while waiting for Starfield. I'm having way more fun now than I had back then.

I'm just doing some trophy hunting in Hogwarts. Passing the time....

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I'm just doing some trophy hunting in Hogwarts. Passing the time....

The last time I fired up a game was on the 19th of August according to my Steam library. Starfield is all I want to play. I've tried to play something a few times but I just ended up scrolling through my library for a few minutes before realizing that nothing else with scratch that itch. Just 2 more sleeps.

 

[Krappadizzle]

It really is a wet turd of a game. It's not outright...like bad in of itself, I guess it's kind of competent, but it def. doesn't live up to Arkane's pedigree and feels like it was made last minute and with nothing that makes it interesting. It's like a shitty 4-player Far Cry with none of the polish or at least none of the focus/direction.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Please explain what Dreams has to do with Redfall?

The same that Redfall has to do with anything other than Redfall.

Posting an article about a fuck-up in the past the day before a massive launch is FUD-posting at its core. If I posted a thread about the hilariously mismanaged boondoggle that was Dreams the day before Spiderman 2 launched I'd expect to be called out for console warring.