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Reminder Into the West

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Overall, I thought it was good, not great. You're right, not even close to Band of Brothers. My main problem with it is that the story is moving super fast. We covered five years in tonights episode. I expected it to be more focused and have a tighter story. Perhaps they were setting things up with this episode, and it'll be more evenly paced in the weeks ahead.

They drove the buffaloes off the cliff as a way to kill them. Don't they teach this stuff in history anymore? The Lakota didn't have rifles, and it takes a lot of arrows and spears to take an animal of that size down. So, they would drive them off a cliff to kill them.
 
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themadcowtipper

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Kung Fu Jedi said:
They drove the buffaloes off the cliff as a way to kill them. Don't they teach this stuff in history anymore? The Lakota didn't have rifles, and it takes a lot of arrows and spears to take an animal of that size down. So, they would drive them off a cliff to kill them.
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The Last History I took, I think American History maybe...., in college it wasnt taught,
 
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
Overall, I thought it was good, not great. You're right, not even close to Band of Brothers. My main problem with it is that the story is moving super fast. We covered five years in tonights episode. I expected it to be more focused and have a tighter story. Perhaps they were setting things up with this episode, and it'll be more evenly paced in the weeks ahead.

They drove the buffaloes off the cliff as a way to kill them. Don't they teach this stuff in history anymore? The Lakota didn't have rifles, and it takes a lot of arrows and spears to take an animal of that size down. So, they would drive them off a cliff to kill them.
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That's news to me too :) I've actually been reading some of "The Rise and Fall of the Choctaw Republic" (family background) which is a very dry yet extremely well researched historical record, so I'm curious to see how the show matches up with what I'm reading.
 
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I doubt that all tribes did this, or even that the Lakota specifically did this, but it was a fairly common tactic amongst native americans who did hunt the massive buffaloe. Later, once they had more access to rifles, it wasn't as necessary and longer. If you saw the first episode, you saw the Lakota were trying to acquire rifles from the traders. I guess I figured running the anials off the cliff was fairly common knowledge.

While it would be too strong to say that I was disappointed in the first Episode of Into The West, I was expecting something more personal an focused. I do hope the remaining five episodes tell a better story. This one seemed all over the place for awhile.
 
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themadcowtipper

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Kung Fu Jedi said:
I doubt that all tribes did this, or even that the Lakota specifically did this, but it was a fairly common tactic amongst native americans who did hunt the massive buffaloe. Later, once they had more access to rifles, it wasn't as necessary and longer. If you saw the first episode, you saw the Lakota were trying to acquire rifles from the traders. I guess I figured running the anials off the cliff was fairly common knowledge.

While it would be too strong to say that I was disappointed in the first Episode of Into The West, I was expecting something more personal an focused. I do hope the remaining five episodes tell a better story. This one seemed all over the place for awhile.
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The reason the it jumsp so much ,it suppose to span 65 years of U.S. history -- 1825 to 1890.
 
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themadcowtipper said:
The reason the it jumsp so much ,it suppose to span 65 years of U.S. history -- 1825 to 1890.
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Ahhh... didn't realize they were trying to cover so much ground. I guess I shouldn't expect it to get too much more focused than.
 
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Wow, the second epiosde was great, the pacing was better, I really like the characters and the setting. It will replay tonight at 8/7 central for thos that missed it. The only thing I don't like is having to wait a week to see the next installment...
 
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Incognito

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I watched the NBA playoffs on TNT, therefore I watched INTO THE WEST.

COMING SOON

FROM EXECUTIVE PRODUCE STEVEN SPEILPERG

A DRAMATIC SERIES THAT DELVES INTO THE PAST


*CUE MUSIC*
 
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Kung Fu Jedi

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Haven't seen part two yet. It's on the Tivo and scheduled for watching tonight. Glad to hear that the pacing was better. Looking forward to it now.
 
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themadcowtipper

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They should just call it WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE FUCKING DEVIL and get it over with.
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Have you been watching it, it pretty much paints everyone in a bad light...The Indian's selling their own people for guns...The white people giving the Indian's smallpox infected blankets.
 
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teh_pwn

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I saw both episodes.

I really couldn't stand how people were dieing.

"Hey, this river is kind of wild. Let's all cross it at once right here! Women don't know how to swim? Who cares!?"

"Hey, they're lowring the wagons down the hill with shoddy equipment....let's stand below them! "

How can people be this stupid.
 
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Littleberu

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The second one was the best. People are dying left and right only because this is the west goddamnit, not because they are stupid.
 
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Nerevar

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Littleberu said:
The second one was the best. People are dying left and right only because this is the west goddamnit, not because they are stupid.
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While I agree in principle,
one of the deaths in particular was just retarded - Rachel getting run over by the wagon. The other ones were much more believable.

I also don't understand why the other sister was kept alive by the Cherokee, but all the other women were killed. Was it simply because she was smoking hot?
 
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The second episode was much better than the first for sure. Much more coherent story, and while it still covered a lot of ground, it did so in a manner that told the story better. Sadly, they lost a big chunk of their audience from Episode 1 and Episode 2. I read yesterday that there was a 25% drop in ratings.
 
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themadcowtipper

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Nerevar said:
I also don't understand why the other sister was kept alive by the Cherokee, but all the other women were killed. Was it simply because she was smoking hot?
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YES, thst is the reason
 
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