Report: Valve to release $1200 VR by the end of 2025

Buggy Loop

Gold Member
Isn't that what ReShade does now, with $300 headsets? Seems that way to me searching youtube.

You can also run all your emulation like Nintendo games such as Mario Kart and Zelda etc through a 3D effect like that I've seen.

I doubt it's anything native, but if so, that would be neat, since it saves a step, but I'd think it be flat out broken for 2D games like Hades etc or Age of Empires 2 or StarCraft 1, etc. There's no depth in them to begin with.

Yea of course it would match better a 3D game perspective. But they have 2D games too, they supported Bloodstained ritual of the night recently. Mister Wolf Mister Wolf has one so he would be better placed to talk about those type of games and how they look.

Here is their list of supported games so far for spatialabs. This is ACER we're talking about. I would wager that Valve could muster better support.


Had no idea for reshade. Could be.
 
I think the rumor is that the 2D games on a big screen will actually have 3D depth like those expensive 3D monitors do.

Taking a page on how acer did it for their monitor with spatial labs or how Samsung is also about to do it with their new monitor


Those monitors are insanely expensive. Having this on a VR headset would be - mighty interesting alternative.
That would be dope. It sounds similar to what I've been wanting to do with the OG PSVR; soft-mod my PS3 to force 3D on, and then daisy chain the headset in and play 3D games on the virtual screen. I know it works, just too nervous to soft-mod my Triple.
 

BlueManifest

Neo Member
I think the rumor is that the 2D games on a big screen will actually have 3D depth like those expensive 3D monitors do.

Taking a page on how acer did it for their monitor with spatial labs or how Samsung is also about to do it with their new monitor


Those monitors are insanely expensive. Having this on a VR headset would be - mighty interesting alternative.
Going to save my first resident evil 4 remake playthrough for this
 

Sleepwalker

Member
That would be dope. It sounds similar to what I've been wanting to do with the OG PSVR; soft-mod my PS3 to force 3D on, and then daisy chain the headset in and play 3D games on the virtual screen. I know it works, just too nervous to soft-mod my Triple.
The soft mod for the ps3 is the easiest thing, ive done it on multiple now. Give it a go itll be ok.
 

Mister Wolf

Member
Isn't that what ReShade does now, with $300 headsets? Seems that way to me searching youtube.

You can also run all your emulation like Nintendo games such as Mario Kart and Zelda etc through a 3D effect like that I've seen.

I doubt it's anything native, but if so, that would be neat, since it saves a step, but I'd think it be flat out broken for 2D games like Hades etc or Age of Empires 2 or StarCraft 1, etc. There's no depth in them to begin with.

When using SuperDepth3D Reshade plugin and Acer's software there is too much lag. There is a way to mitigate the added lag with another plugin that bypasses the Acer software to enable Stereoscopic 3D. In my experience though the 3D Acer adds into the games are much better than using reshade and the games depth buffer.


If you look at this page Acer explains the difference. Reshade plugin just uses the depth buffer. When Acer mods in 3D which they call 3D Ultra they are actually adding another camera to the game.
 
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Wonko_C

Member
Reshade's approach to stereo 3D looks 99% flat to me, and that other 1% might just be placebo. On the other hand, emulated 3DS games on Citra look great, especially Metroid Samus Returns with AI-enhanced textures and 60fps patch. *chef kiss*
 
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Kupfer

Member
I have no clue about VR; my only experiences are with the PSVR and PSVR2.


Is it common for modern PC VR headsets to also work standalone? I’m not kidding myself - demanding titles like Alyx probably won’t run natively on such a device - but is it possible to play "smaller" VR games (Beatsaber for example, VR Chat ... ) purely with the headset, without needing a connection to a computer?


I have a feeling that my PC with a GTX 1070 Ti is too weak to handle much of anything anymore, but I’m still curious.
 

BlueManifest

Neo Member
I have no clue about VR; my only experiences are with the PSVR and PSVR2.


Is it common for modern PC VR headsets to also work standalone? I’m not kidding myself - demanding titles like Alyx probably won’t run natively on such a device - but is it possible to play "smaller" VR games (Beatsaber for example, VR Chat ... ) purely with the headset, without needing a connection to a computer?


I have a feeling that my PC with a GTX 1070 Ti is too weak to handle much of anything anymore, but I’m still curious.
Your gpu could run alyx, I played alyx on gtx 970
 

lmimmfn

Gold Member
I have no clue about VR; my only experiences are with the PSVR and PSVR2.


Is it common for modern PC VR headsets to also work standalone? I’m not kidding myself - demanding titles like Alyx probably won’t run natively on such a device - but is it possible to play "smaller" VR games (Beatsaber for example, VR Chat ... ) purely with the headset, without needing a connection to a computer?


I have a feeling that my PC with a GTX 1070 Ti is too weak to handle much of anything anymore, but I’m still curious.
Yes, you can play games directly on the Quest 3, Beatsaber and VRChat have native ports, even playing HL: Alyx you dont need a physical connection to the PC, you can play it completely wireless on the Quest, i.e. no cables to PC.
 

Kupfer

Member
Your gpu could run alyx, I played alyx on gtx 970
So you're telling me I can get a PSVR2 to PC adapter and play Alyx in a good quality and nice handling with the PSVR2 controllers?
Yes, you can play games directly on the Quest 3, Beatsaber and VRChat have native ports, even playing HL: Alyx you dont need a physical connection to the PC, you can play it completely wireless on the Quest, i.e. no cables to PC.
Quest is Meta, isn't it? If so, it's dead to me.
 
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Wonko_C

Member
I have no clue about VR; my only experiences are with the PSVR and PSVR2.


Is it common for modern PC VR headsets to also work standalone? I’m not kidding myself - demanding titles like Alyx probably won’t run natively on such a device - but is it possible to play "smaller" VR games (Beatsaber for example, VR Chat ... ) purely with the headset, without needing a connection to a computer?


I have a feeling that my PC with a GTX 1070 Ti is too weak to handle much of anything anymore, but I’m still curious.
It's not that PCVR headsets have standalone capability, it's the other way around: Standalone headsets happen to work on PC. Compared to the dozens (probably hundreds?) of different branded PCVR headsets, I think there's like only 3 standalone headsets from different manufacturers now: Quest from Meta, Pico from Bytedance, and VIVE Focus from HTC. All of them run their custom version of Android and that's why standalone games like Batman won't run on PC because they don't have PC versions.

That's suppossedly about to change with the upcoming Valve Deckard (If leaks are correct). As it will be a standalone headset able to run PCVR games by itself.

Your GTX 1070Ti will be able to run Alyx just fine (And I've heard the PSVR2's OLED display will make it look even better), it's very well optimized. You could even run this on a Rog Ally pretty decently, so it's a given it will run on the Deckard in standalone mode.
 
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lmimmfn

Gold Member
So you're telling me I can get a PSVR2 to PC adapter and play Alyx in a good quality and nie handling with the PSVR2 controllers?

Quest is Meta, isn't it? If so, it's dead to me.
Just on Alyx with your 1070Ti, you wont be able to run it on max with a 1070Ti and its 8Gig VRAM as its quite hungry for VRAM, at least i get a VRAM warning on my 4070Ti with 12 Gig, however even with the warning i have no issues so not sure if its a bug or legit as i never checked in Afterburner on VRAM usage.

Yes, unfortunately Quest is Meta, i just setup a dummy account as i have no FB, but yeah i understand.
 
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Wonko_C

Member
Just on Alyx with your 1070Ti, you wont be able to run it on max with a 1070Ti and its 8Gig VRAM as its quite hungry for VRAM, at least i get a VRAM warning on my 4070Ti with 12 Gig, however even with the warning i have no issues so not sure if its a bug or legit as i never checked in Afterburner on VRAM usage.

Yes, unfortunately Quest is Meta, i just setup a dummy account as i have no FB, but yeah i understand.
The VRAM thing is just a bug. I don't get the warning message most of the times and that's with a 8GB 3070 Ti. The game is not really VRAM hungry. It was released 5 years ago after all.
 

BlueManifest

Neo Member
So you're telling me I can get a PSVR2 to PC adapter and play Alyx in a good quality and nice handling with the PSVR2 controllers?

Quest is Meta, isn't it? If so, it's dead to me.
Not sure about that since psvr2 is higher resolution, I played on a vive
 

YeulEmeralda

Linux User
Valve isn’t releasing this expecting it to be successful
Think About It GIF by Identity
 

YeulEmeralda

Linux User
I just see it as something their employees want to do and want to have and they will also sell it for other people that want it

Everyone knows a gaming device over 1,000$ isn’t even going to sell a million, including the people that are making it
I agree with you but there appear to be some people here on neogaf that think VR is going mainstream.
 

lmimmfn

Gold Member
I just see it as something their employees want to do and want to have and they will also sell it for other people that want it

Everyone knows a gaming device over 1,000$ isn’t even going to sell a million, including the people that are making it
I would expect it to be a baseline for a headset which has a VR version of Steam OS, setting a standard for x86 standalone devices allowing more sales of Steam games, similar to Steam OS expanding to 3rd party handhelds.
 
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