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Since I can't post new threads as i am a Baby Member, figured this is the best place for me to pinch the top bridge of my nose just below my forehead and utter "uggghhh":

http://www.camphyrule.com/prelaunch/index.html

Seriously. I mean...seriously.

They have a SUMMER CAMP? Is this how the next generation of Nintendrones get trained up on how to 'Battle the Enemy!' on the internets?

Now if only Camp Hyrule was a CONCENTRATION CAMP, I can just witness all this whining and bullshit go away!
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see either a REmake 2, Outbreak File 3, Gun Survivor 5 or content-enhanced port of RE5 on the Revolution. With the exception, it's not Capcom's style to leave a system with slim pickings when it comes to the RE department. The Saturn was meant to get RE2 after RE1, and the N64 was meant to get Zero after RE2, and the DC got RE2 and RE3 in addition to CV and CVX. The Rev will be just fine.
 
Luckett_X said:
Since I can't post new threads as i am a Baby Member, figured this is the best place for me to pinch the top bridge of my nose just below my forehead and utter "uggghhh":

http://www.camphyrule.com/prelaunch/index.html

Seriously. I mean...seriously.

They have a SUMMER CAMP? Is this how the next generation of Nintendrones get trained up on how to 'Battle the Enemy!' on the internets?

Now if only Camp Hyrule was a CONCENTRATION CAMP, I can just witness all this whining and bullshit go away!

Are you a dumass? They've had that every year for like the past 5 years and it's just for fun.
 
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see RE5 make its way to Revolution. However, that doesn't make this news post any less retarded.
 
I would love for Capcom to remake Re4 for next gen consoles and release it 6 months prior to RE5 for $30. I would love something like that.
 
ManaByte said:
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Brainwashing? Please.

I really love how now that Nintendo decided to not support HD with Revolution it's instantly "suxxorz". Just like Online Play in the current generation. Nintendo said online is a fad and all the Nintendo fans jumped on that bandwagon and bashed online gaming. Now that Nintendo is supporting online, everyone loves it.
I never remember Nintendo saying online gaming was a fad. I simply remember them saying "at this time internet gaming is not a profitable business," going on to say that if, in the future, it is structurally beneficial for Nintendo and the consumer then they would look into it.
 
Camp Hyrule is an Annual thing Nintendo runs.


edit: ...and if you were considering posting a thread solely for that, then im glad "baby" members can't start new threads :-P
 
evilromero said:
I never remember Nintendo saying online gaming was a fad. I simply remember them saying "at this time internet gaming is not a profitable business," going on to say that if, in the future, it is structurally beneficial for Nintendo and the consumer then they would look into it.

Still the point remains that the Ninty Faithful chant whatever the corporate mantra is. I don't know if I can even count how many "gaming has reached its saturation point in graphics" or "simple gameplay is better" threads I read on 1up.com's EGM board (a.k.a. Nintendo Power's Unofficial Playpen) after Iwata began spewing his ridiculous rhetoric before, during and after this years E3.
 
There more people bitching about nintendo fans than there are nintendo fans. Every guy in here says n-fans this N-fans, stfu and play some games damn it.
 
Haha yeah, I guess.

Really...explains a lot for me though. Do they have fun activities like "Propagate Internet Rumours Claiming Insider Knowledge" and scary SCARY rituals, along of course with Mario Brainwashing 7?

And on the issue of Nintendo not endorsing online, I call utter bullshit to all this dancing around the issue of it "not being structurally beneficial", its because Yamauchi was still in charge and a crazy-ass stubborn old man. I kinda miss him though. Didn't he offer up part of his retirement package to help give the Revolution more power behind it? Did Iwata and Miyamoto just buy shitloads of weed with it instead?
 
evilromero said:
I never remember Nintendo saying online gaming was a fad. I simply remember them saying "at this time internet gaming is not a profitable business," going on to say that if, in the future, it is structurally beneficial for Nintendo and the consumer then they would look into it.

Hiroshi Yamauchi: There are people who are in fact enjoying Internet games, and I'm sure they are enjoying them, but in the end, this is a fad thing. We don't think that this will turn into a multiplying game genre. There are reports that only a portion of the many Net games are actually selling, and that this is only a phase. We wouldn't bet our company's luck on such games.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/556/556814p1.html

Selective memory? :)
 
Doc Holliday said:
There more people bitching about nintendo fans than there are nintendo fans. Every guy in here says n-fans this N-fans, stfu and play some games damn it.

There are really only a half dozen actual anti-Nintendo fanboys. The rest of them are just going with the flow.
 
sangreal said:

Man, it's "November 2000" by retired old man Hiroshi Yamauchi!

Next page please.

We have a lot of experience in online as I'm sure you're aware. We think very positively about the possibilities. We've done a lot of online experiments in the past. But until these hurdles are met and these problems are solved, I don't think that we should just jump into online because people think there's strength there right now. So we're certainly not in a position where we can say 'there will be an online Mario Kart in 2003.'
 
I think RE 5 will be announced for the revolution around the time when it's fully unveiled. The only thing that might hold it back is if nintendo releases a controller that the game can't possibly be played on.

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Truthfully... even if it came to the revolution I wouldnt buy it for the system. I'd get it for the 360 cause it has some xbox live support. I buy nintendo system for nintendo games / exclusives. I think it would be very shady for Capcom to go to the trouble of making all those RE games for the GC... making GC owners RE fans... and then say we're not giving you RE 5.

and I also think in the long run nintendo will support the 720p.

they support a 480p standard and most likely their system can do 720p games. If they gave developers the option to create games in 720p... but made the 480p resolution a standard... everything will be good.
 
KingJ2002 said:
I think RE 5 will be announced for the revolution around the time when it's fully unveiled. The only thing that might hold it back is if nintendo releases a controller that the game can't possibly be played on.

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Truthfully... even if it came to the revolution I wouldnt buy it for the system. I'd get it for the 360 cause it has some xbox live support. I buy nintendo system for nintendo games / exclusives. I think it would be very shady for Capcom to go to the trouble of making all those RE games for the GC... making GC owners RE fans... and then say we're not giving you RE 5.

and I also think in the long run nintendo will support the 720p.

they support a 480p standard and most likely their system can do 720p games. If they gave developers the option to create games in 720p... but made the 480p resolution a standard... everything will be good.

Uh, Xbox Live support? All it would have is Live Aware and and "real" online content would be on PS3 (and Rev) too.
 
Zeo said:
Uh, Xbox Live support? All it would have is Live Aware and and "real" online content would be on PS3 (and Rev) too.

Wait, what the fuck? Why the hell would the "real online content" be on PS3 and a hypothetical Rev version, but not the XBOX Live service?

Seriously, Zeo, sometimes I think you're high.
 
Amir0x said:
Wait, what the fuck? Why the hell would the "real online content" be on PS3 and a hypothetical Rev version, but not the XBOX Live service?

Seriously, Zeo, sometimes I think you're high.

I think he meant that if it had real online it would be on both (all three?) systems not just xbox live. Otherwise it'd just be "live aware" (which I think is pretty beneficial). The implication being there is no benefit to the xbox version over the other(s) as far as online goes.
 
Amir0x said:
Wait, what the fuck? Why the hell would the "real online content" be on PS3 and a hypothetical Rev version, but not the XBOX Live service?

Seriously, Zeo, sometimes I think you're high.

yeah, it's not like PS3 has a HDD bundled with the console!

im still hoping for online co-op though

Dav2k said:


silly me
 
sangreal said:
I think he meant that if it had real online it would be on both (all three?) systems not just xbox live. Otherwise it'd just be "live aware" (which I think is pretty beneficial). The implication being there is no benefit to the xbox version over the other(s) as far as online goes.

It's an oddly worded sentence, but now that I re-read it you may be correct. Still, Zeo would do anything to underplay the competition. He's even touting the non-advantage of the XBL support over online content that could possibly be in a hypothetical Rev version. It's nuts.

Wario64 said:
yeah, it's not like PS3 has a HDD bundled with the console!

Seriously, fuck Sony for not including a HDD. Fuck them so hard.
Until I get the next Gran Turismo

Wario64 said:
im still hoping for online co-op though

Me too!
 
Luckett_X said:
Haha yeah, I guess.

Really...explains a lot for me though. Do they have fun activities like "Propagate Internet Rumours Claiming Insider Knowledge" and scary SCARY rituals, along of course with Mario Brainwashing 7?

And on the issue of Nintendo not endorsing online, I call utter bullshit to all this dancing around the issue of it "not being structurally beneficial", its because Yamauchi was still in charge and a crazy-ass stubborn old man. I kinda miss him though. Didn't he offer up part of his retirement package to help give the Revolution more power behind it? Did Iwata and Miyamoto just buy shitloads of weed with it instead?


Fund Q. (though i doubt you REALLY care.)
 
Zeo said:
Uh, Xbox Live support? All it would have is Live Aware and and "real" online content would be on PS3 (and Rev) too.

It could be live aware only... but who knows if sony & nintendo will create a online service similar to the service microsoft has put on their system?

The new Achievements feature microsoft put in their live service could be used with RE 5 and if Sony / Nintendo doesnt have this with their system it will be a Xbox 360 exclusive feature.
 
Wario64 said:
im still hoping for online co-op though
Player 1- Dude, go outside and see if it's clear.
Player 2- Fuck no! You're the one with the TMP you check.
Player 1- Exactly... that's why I'll watch your back.
Player 2- *sigh* OK... seems clea... Shit! they're coming! You got my back right?.. right?.. dude? fuck....
 
KingJ2002 said:
The new Achievements feature microsoft put in their live service could be used with RE 5 and if Sony / Nintendo doesnt have this with their system it will be a Xbox 360 exclusive feature.

That's true. But just to play devil's advocate, Acheivement feature is the WORST online internet feature of all time and I really wish Microsoft would reconsider it.
 
Amir0x said:
Wait, what the fuck? Why the hell would the "real online content" be on PS3 and a hypothetical Rev version, but not the XBOX Live service?

Seriously, Zeo, sometimes I think you're high.

How about you reread what I said first?

I said the the most Xbox Live would have is Live Aware and any "real" online content in the game would be on PS3 (and Rev) too. You know, too, as in also, as well as, etc.

I basically said there's no reason to look at the Xbox version as the better version because Xbox has Xbox Live, because any online play would be in ALL the versions. If there's no online play on PS3, there won't be on Xbox 360, and Xbox Live Aware doesn't count as online play.

Amir0x said:
It's an oddly worded sentence, but now that I re-read it you may be correct. Still, Zeo would do anything to underplay the competition. He's even touting the non-advantage of the XBL support over online content that could possibly be in a hypothetical Rev version. It's nuts.

First of all, I worded it just fine, you just had problems reading it.

Second of all, you're insane. No offense. I would "do anything to underplay the competition"? I never "underminded" XBL support (which at the most, would be Live Aware -- again, any online play would be on EVERYTHING), over online content that could be in a hypothetical Rev version. I can't believe you got "Zeo would do anything to underplay the competition" from one thing you misread.

Again now, but if there was a Rev version, it would have the same online aspects as the others.

And hell, PS3/Rev could both have Live Aware-like things.
 
Zeo said:
I basically said there's no reason to look at the Xbox version as the better version because Xbox has Xbox Live, because any online play would be in ALL the versions. If there's no online play on PS3, there won't be on Xbox 360, and Xbox Live Aware doesn't count as online play.

Except online play has always been better on Xbox Live service even in games which had online on PS2 as well. Unless PS3 offers a hardline unified internet structure (or Rev), the XBL version of online is always going to be superior - bitching about paying 50 dollars aside.

Zeo said:
First of all, I worded it just fine, you just had problems reading it.

Of course I had problems reading it, because you had two "and"s.

Zeo said:
Second of all, you're insane. No offense. I would "do anything to underplay the competition"? I never "underminded" XBL support (which at the most, would be Live Aware -- again, any online play would be on EVERYTHING), over online content that could be in a hypothetical Rev version.

No, you would do anything to undermind the competition, not that specific feature. You don't know WHAT the features will be. Instead of just admitting that thus far XBL is the superior online service, you sat around discussing that in the HYPOTHETICAL Rev version, and the PS3 version, whatever online content there is will just be there as well! This ignores the countless other benefits of XBL, for one, and for another... who knows if XBL version will have some unique online benefits? Microsoft is constantly pushing for that stuff, much, MUCH harder than Sony or Nintendo. You're just fucking daft.

Zeo said:
Again now, but if there was a Rev version, it would have the same online aspects as the others.

If, If, If. And even then, you don't know that.

Zeo said:
And hell, PS3/Rev could both hax Live Aware-like things.

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Amir0x said:
That's true. But just to play devil's advocate, Acheivement feature is the WORST online internet feature of all time and I really wish Microsoft would reconsider it.

Yes... on paper it doesnt seem like much but it seems like a feature to compliment the gamercard feature... which is the one of the best features in online gaming... IMO of course.
 
KingJ2002 said:
Yes... on paper it doesnt seem like much but it seems like a feature to compliment the gamercard feature... which is the one of the best features in online gaming... IMO of course.

It's not that. It's that it's the most gross attempt at internet ball licking ever to grace an online service. It's just asking all the fourteen year olds with rich parents to buy them every game possible just to decorate themselves with shitty acheivements in the latest version of PUYO POP. It's worthless, it just contributes to a crappy environment. And XBL subscribers are already some of the most vile, juvenile folk to grace the internet.
 
Amir0x said:
Except online play has always been better on Xbox Live service even in games which had online on PS2 as well. Unless PS3 offers a hardline unified internet structure (or Rev), the XBL version of online is always going to be superior - bitching about paying 50 dollars aside.

Amir0x, you can't really be this dumb. I know you're not.

You can't POSSIBLY think that PS3 and Rev won't have online services almost as good/as good/better than the original Xbox Live. And we already know Rev will be free, and PS3 will MOST LIKELY be free. Give me a break.



Amir0x said:
Of course I had problems reading it, because you had two "and"s.

Yes, a simple typing mistake that at least one other person understood. If you actually looked at it for a second, the only real logical word that I could have meant was "any". Come on now.



Amir0x said:
No, you would do anything to undermind the competition, not that specific feature. You don't know WHAT the features will be. Instead of just admitting that thus far XBL is the superior online service, you sat around discussing that in the HYPOTHETICAL Rev version, and the PS3 version, whatever online content there is will just be there as well! This ignores the countless other benefits of XBL, for one, and for another... who knows if XBL version will have some unique online benefits? Microsoft is constantly pushing for that stuff, much, MUCH harder than Sony or Nintendo. You're just fucking daft.

Um, again, wrong. But you seem to be good at that.

I never said XBL wasn't the superior online service. It is. .. This gen. But we're not talking about this gen, oh smart one. Just because XBL is better than PS2's online service doesn't mean PS3's online service won't be as good as this gen's XBL: and that's as good as it needs to be, really. Instead of mostly silly (and some great) additions to the next gen Xbox Live.

And I'm using logic and past experience to gather what RE5 online features would be. You know how on ALMOST EVERY PS2/Xbox game that is online, the online features are almost exactly the same?

You can't possibly tell me there will be some huge difference in an HYPOTHETICAL online play put into RE5, between PS3 and Xbox 360. The chance is incredibly slim (especially if they release at the same time).

And yes, of course I'm talking about the HYPOTHETICAL Rev version. I'm saying IF there is one, it will almost positively have the same online features, if there are any at all. There's NO reason for there not to be.

Yes, there's always the slim chance there wouldn't be, but the chance is so small it's silly to even talk about.

Amir0x said:

Are you telling me you don't think it's possible for PS3/Rev to have something LIKE Xbox Live Aware? Unbelievable.
 
SyNapSe said:
People rarely read the thread if it's more than 10 posts.

No, I read. Aside from someone calling "bullshit" on Nintendo's reasoning and offering nothing to back it up, it hasn't been touched outside of the "Nintendo fans downplayed online gaming!" angle.

Which is a completely seperate discussion from what Nintendo's stance on Internet gaming was, and what fanboys of all stripes molded that principle into across BOTH internets. ;)

jaundicejuice said:
Still the point remains that the Ninty Faithful chant whatever the corporate mantra is.

Except that there was a deviation. The dyed-in-the-wool Nintendo fans weren't repeating a corporate mantra, merely making up an excuse for the corporate mantra to rationalize Nintendo largely sitting out of online this generation.
 
xsarien said:
No, I read. Aside from someone calling "bullshit" on Nintendo's reasoning and offering nothing to back it up, it hasn't been touched outside of the "Nintendo fans downplayed online gaming!" angle.

Which is a completely seperate discussion from what Nintendo's stance on Internet gaming was, and what fanboys of all stripes molded that principle into across BOTH internets. ;)

You did not read the thread if you still think Nintendo never called online gaming a fad.

Hiroshi Yamauchi: There are people who are in fact enjoying Internet games, and I'm sure they are enjoying them, but in the end, this is a fad thing. We don't think that this will turn into a multiplying game genre. There are reports that only a portion of the many Net games are actually selling, and that this is only a phase. We wouldn't bet our company's luck on such games.


The quote (from 2000) may not be worth mention, but that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo said it.
 
sangreal said:
You did not read the thread if you still think Nintendo never called online gaming a fad.




The quote (from 2000) may not be worth mention, but that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo said it.

Yamauchi said it once, and even though he still has influence at the company, saying he speaks FOR them in the same capacity as Reggie or Iwata would is a little bit of a stretch. Just like Nintendo said they'd sell (whatever the fuck that number was) Gamecubes by 2007 or so; just like Microsoft said that they'd sell 100 million Xboxes; just like Sony didn't mind media exaggerations of the PS2's power. Everyone's guilty of having a one-off statement that doesn't accurately reflect the actual position.

The standard company line - excluding Yamauchi - is that Nintendo wanted it to be more seamless than, yes, XBox Live, and free on top of that.

Tall order, but it looks like they're finally getting around to it.
 
Zeo said:
Amir0x, you can't really be this dumb. I know you're not.

A word of advice before we get into this little trist: you're not clever. Saying "YOU CAN'T BE THIS DUMB, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT" is not humorous, nor does it paint your opponent in a stupid light. It just looks like you wasted your time.

Zeo said:
You can't POSSIBLY think that PS3 and Rev won't have online services almost as good/as good/better than the original Xbox Live. And we already know Rev will be free, and PS3 will MOST LIKELY be free. Give me a break.

Can't possibly think that? Well, for one, Microsoft has been building this service for almost an entire console generation. For another, Sony has showed almost no indication of trying to match this service. Indeed, in various interviews it half sounded like they hadn't even decided on what to do yet. Instill confidence? Yeah. Right. And Nintendo hasn't even fucking done TRUE console online internet. Who knows how stable it'll be, how fully featured it'll end up. And I swear to God if you try to list those bullshit SNES/Nintendo peripherals you're banned from this discussion.

All we know is that XBL is, without a doubt, the DEFINITIVE online service. There is nothing on any console that comes close, nothing that is as stable, nothing that is as fully featured. And next-gen XBL service is even MORE insane. To match it by providing a stable infrastructure and similar feature set in not even a quarter of the time it took Microsoft will not only be unbelievable, but extremely surprising. Because PS3/Rev service would presumably (and in the case of Rev, definitely) be FREE. And whether or not those poor, poor starving individuals who can't afford LIVE want to admit it or not, MONEY makes the world go round. And stable. And awesome.

Zeo said:
Um, again, wrong. But you seem to be good at that.

A) I never said XBL wasn't the superior online service. It is. .. This gen. But we're not talking about this gen, oh smart one. Just because XBL is better than PS2's online service doesn't mean PS3's online service won't be as good as this gen's XBL: and that's as good as it needs to be, really. Instead of mostly silly (and some great) additions to the next gen Xbox Live.

Hahahaha. "oh smart one"

Ok, so first...let's approach this logically. You deemed the new additions to XBL "mostly silly". And then you admit that some of the new XBL features are great? Ok, so some are silly, some are great. So already we can at least agree that XBL is improving in some fashion. Do you agree that Microsoft - who has PLENTY of experience in the online arena before even XBox - took almost a full gen building up XBL and developing features? If so, then do you not also agree that this is not something that occurs overnight, and that it takes lots of money to build the type of stable, universal infrastructure that they developed? If so, then you too are disheartened that Sony has deemed it almost unnecessary to mention anything about their "PLAYSTATION WORLD." If it's a huge feature which they have invested in, do you not think it would have been smart to indicate to the world that it's coming in this major form?

But, speculation. Nintendo is going to have to do a lot of proving in the internet world before we even discuss how "close" it gets to the XBL service.

Zeo said:
And I'm using logic and past experience to gather what RE5 online features would be. You know how on ALMOST EVERY PS2/Xbox game that is online, the online features are almost exactly the same?

Uh, no. There are PLENTY of XB/PS2 online games that have features unique to the XBL version. Where the fuck have you been? Not only that, but logic doesn't dictate how RE5 is going to operate online, or what features it would include. Because no "main" game in the series has really had it before! We're not talkin' about those shitty side RE games, now.

Zeo said:
You can't possibly tell me there will be some huge difference in an HYPOTHETICAL online play put into RE5, between PS3 and Xbox 360. The chance is incredibly slim (especially if they release at the same time).

It's 50/50, in fact. Especially if Microsoft continues to develop the features of its online service. Because then there will be things the PS3 service simply will be unable to provide, such as expansive friend lists that allow you to be messaged even during gameplay.

Zeo said:
And yes, of course I'm talking about the HYPOTHETICAL Rev version. I'm saying IF there is one, it will almost positively have the same online features, if there are any at all. There's NO reason for there not to be.

Plenty of reasons.

Zeo said:
Wow, you can't really be this stupid. Are you telling me you don't think it's possible for PS3/Rev to have something LIKE Xbox Live Aware? Unbelievable.

Haha, again with the "you can't really be _____." You're on the ball today, aren't ya? Do I not think it's possible? Of course it's possible. Lots of things are possible. Is it PROBABLE that they will be able to match what Microsoft has by the time RE5 is out? No, I do not believe it is probable AT ALL.
 
sangreal said:
You did not read the thread if you still think Nintendo never called online gaming a fad.




The quote (from 2000) may not be worth mention, but that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo said it.


Hiroshi Yamauchi has always raved like a lunatic.
 
I hope Nintendo doesn't come out with the Revolution for a few more years yet. The constant pie-eyed pipe dreams on what the Rev will do and what will be on it are too much fun to read.
 
Amir0x said:
Indeed, in various interviews it half sounded like they hadn't even decided on what to do yet. Instill confidence?

What do you mean half?

EGM: For PS2 it's been largely left up to the publishers to decide what online things they want to put in, or how they want to set up their online materials.

KH: That's correct. We took the approach of letting the publishers decide that as opposed to dictating what they should be doing. That's really their business.

EGM: Right. Will that change with PS3?

KH: Um, we haven't decided one way or the other, but yeah, once we do make some decisions and some announcements, obviously we'll be presenting the business side of things to the publishers, as well.
 
sangreal said:
What do you mean half?

I say half because I have read an interview (I'll see if I can find it) that suggests they would at least try to get a online service like Microsoft's Live.
 
Amir0x said:
I say half because I have read an interview (I'll see if I can find it) that suggests they would at least try to get a online service like Microsoft's Live.

Kaz has made it out like they're working on something but no one really knows the scale of it. They still seem to be trying to figure out how to please the people that don't want to pay to play online games while also pleasing that group that wants a more stable online play and are willing to pay for it.
 
VALIS said:
I hope Nintendo doesn't come out with the Revolution for a few more years yet. The constant pie-eyed pipe dreams on what the Rev will do and what will be on it are too much fun to read.
Yeah but wouldn't the inevitable dissapointment of what the Revolution really is be that much more satisfying for you? Their fountain of tears will taste like sweet cambodian breast milk.
 
RE5 won't be out for like three years.

You honestly don't think they won't be able to have something as good as Xbox Live on the original Xbox by then?

Now that's just's insane.
 
Zeo said:
RE5 won't be out for like three years.

You honestly don't think they won't be able to have something as good as Xbox Live on the original Xbox by then?

Now that's just's insane.

If they had something as good as even the original Xbox Live FOR FREE and AS STABLE by the time that RE5 came out, yes it would still be very surprising. But unfortunately for them, Microsoft has a new XBL. So even if they matched the old one, it would not change the paradigm because now Microsoft has a new and undoubtedly superior version that kicks all sorts of fucking ass. Have you even read the new features? It's not like they're adding a few extra pages and a choice to turn voice on/off. They're adding a BAZILLION THINGS.

So yes, if Nintendo or Sony matched the original XBL service FOR FREE by the time RE5 came out, it would be extremely surprising

If Nintendo or Sony matched the NEW XBL service FOR FREE by the time RE5 came out, it would be a god-damn miracle.

So you're damned if they do, damned if they don't Zeo. But nice job on the rebuttal. I'll take being "insane" for two thousand, Bob.
 
Happy Scrappy Hero Pup featuring metrosexual guy with a huge broadsword made of energy fighting snakes on a plane? SYALE SYALE SYALE!
 
sangreal said:
dammit, now Nintendo fans are going to get all uppity

people will believe anything

The sadest part is you know one of these kids that posted is gonna start working at EB tomorrow and he's gonna be telling customers this. :lol
 
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