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Resident Evil Community |OT2| Best Fans Ever!
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EricTheRed
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I've always thought the best way to deal with a RE2/ 3 remake would be to combine the 2 and switch between a cast of characters (including: Claire, Leon, Sherry, Ada, Jill and the Mercs etc). That way the game could incorporate old school survival horror sections with other, more modern, run and gun sections.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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That's a massive undertaking from the remaking point of view and would make the game very bloated and doesn't make sense with the business aspect as well.
EricTheRed
Member
Split it into episodes like they are doing with the upcoming FFVII remake
My wish list for RE7:
1. Sherry as main protag
2. Eliminate gimmick gameplay segments, like turrets and vehicles
3. One good 10-15 hour campaign instead of a bunch of bloat
That's about it. It could be like REmake, it could be like RE4, it could be like RE6 (combat-wise, not campaign-wise). Any of those game designs can be made into a great game if done well.
1. Sherry as main protag
2. Eliminate gimmick gameplay segments, like turrets and vehicles
3. One good 10-15 hour campaign instead of a bunch of bloat
That's about it. It could be like REmake, it could be like RE4, it could be like RE6 (combat-wise, not campaign-wise). Any of those game designs can be made into a great game if done well.
probably
id bet they're just gonna stick in some other char models and voice clips and call it a day
instead of coach you now have rev2 Barry etc.
Emperor Bohe
Member
this is fucking awesome. thank you!
I'd be okay with Sherry. She's long earned a solo title.
Jawmuncher
Member
CrichtonKicks
Member
So can I nominate Chris for worst brother ever award? Claire almost gets killed twice looking for him.
I'll give him a pass for going off the grid after the Mansion Incident and not letting Claire know what was up (he was trying to protect her, blah, blah, blah). But then Raccoon City gets nuked. Dude can't spare a quick phone call to say "hey, don't worry I wasn't there"?
I'll give him a pass for going off the grid after the Mansion Incident and not letting Claire know what was up (he was trying to protect her, blah, blah, blah). But then Raccoon City gets nuked. Dude can't spare a quick phone call to say "hey, don't worry I wasn't there"?
But those are really broad similarities, and you're phrasing it as such because the actual minute-to-minute experiences differ dramatically.
Again, other than third person action against zombies, and I guess upgrading weapons, RE shares nothing with TLoU. The former can take inspiration moving forward, sure, but its still pretty odd to characterize it as a successful reiteration on the RE formula.
StrongBelwas
Banned
Agreed, tonally TLoU and RE are nothing alike in my opinion.
Would happily double dip. Bought Remake HD digitally day one, then RE Origins collection physical day one. Would almost certainly do the same with Remake 2 and 2/3 physical bundle.
SolVanderlyn
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No problem, most of it was just finding images and making a list that was already there look pretty, haha.
This would be fine. The D.S.O. is a cool idea and the D.S.O. characters in RE6 had a nice HUD, which doesn't hurt.
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Yeah, I also got REmake HD digitally and then the physical copy of Origins Collection. I wasn't complaining when I suggested they'll do this with RE2 and RE3. I'll gladly support it.
Stallion Dan
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Well first of all if you need add qualifiers and do mental gymnastics to say "There are no plot holes" then it should be obvious that there are in fact plot holes, otherwise the qualifiers and gymnastics wouldn't be needed.
And even with the qualifiers what I said remains accurate, you're essentially saying none of the games are canon.
Your earlier claim
Is not true. Throughout the series there are plenty of story elements put in via files directly to explain gameplay, if the two were unrelated this wouldn't be needed. By trying to explain the gameplay via story elements the creators are making a very clear connection between the two.
You could argue those are there as instruction manuals only, but that would be ignoring the fact that they are not above straight up putting gameplay instruction manuals in the game as files. The fact they selectively choose for certain ones to instead link the gameplay to story solidies the link between the two.
On the flipside, story is often used as a reason for gameplay elements not being present.
There you go doing it right there for example, if story and gameplay are not linked then no reason not to have Crimson Heads constantly. You cannot argue this from both sides of the argument as it suits you and be right both times as they are in direct opposition to eachother.
Now, going back to the claim of story/gameplay being seperate, lets ignore the qualifiers and gymnastics and imagine this is completely true. Where in the games does it tell us this? Nowhere. Where do the games tell you to find the full story in supplementary books? Nowhere. Nobody who puts a game in and plays it would know this and they would just presume game events are canon. The medium the games are presented in fail to explain why things actually do make sense (if they do), so when they do not, they are plot holes. It doesn't matter if a guide book or word from a dev does explain the problems and add logic or an explanation of why the plot holes exists, they don't stop them being plotholes because the reason and explanations are not present in the work itself.
Not that there aren't plot holes for various reasons even with expanded materials.
Maybe down the road, but I bet RE2 and RE3 remakes will be $60 each when they come out.
Stallion Dan
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lol at thinking they won't both be full price games.
Think you guys are misreading what I wrote.
I said they'll each come out.
And then down the road they'll be bundled together.
So $60 each at the start.
Then a year or so later, they'll be bundled.
PensivePen
Member
I would like them to retake it, but hopefully do it well. Because he's sounded worse in each of his appearances post RE3.
There are no qualifiers or mental gymnastics. Just a simple fact. My statement is true, not a claim. No file says Zombies need to be shot 4-5 times in the chest to die. Anything mentioned in the files is part of the story. What gameplay elements in files are you even talking about? Puzzles? They're part of the story, but whether or not the character you play as ever interacts with them is left uncertain in earlier games because those titles were not a case of "what you see is what you get" in order to give the developers more freedom for both the story and the gameplay. Did you honestly think Chris and Jill went through the same areas unlocking the same doors and solving the same puzzles?
Whatever link there is between story and gameplay is only enough to maintain a certain level of consistency, because otherwise... not a fun game. But nobody truly believes Zombies can be killed in any way besides destroying the brain, a fact which is repeated throughout the series and stated outright by several characters, even those you play as. They can only die from chest shots because it's a video game and would be no fun otherwise with the constraints and limitations it had at the time. Ganado, Majini and J'avo all have superhuman strength but this is barely apparent in gameplay because the player is overpowered in those games and able to fling them around like confetti because, surprise, fun. They're also more resistant to bullets in gameplay, because them dying like ordinary people as seen in cutscenes would be less fun and imposing to the player in gameplay. The games don't need to tell you any of this. You should have common sense and notice the discrepancy and accept it for what it is... which is not a plot hole. The gameplay only loosely follows the story in the earlier games.
No such thing exists in this series. There is logic and possibility to every event and there are no contradictions. You'll find plenty of mistranslations, but the writing is solid as far as logical consistency goes. What doesn't make sense? The series is written to maintain a certain level of mystery while leaving room for the player's imagination, even if there's a concrete explanation already. The closest thing to a plot hole in the entire series is the appearance of the BIO2 laboratory in BIO0, which is nothing more than an easter egg the characters never actually interact with in the narrative, it's purely a fan tease, with an elevator that's a gameplay mechanic to go back to previous areas without backtracking. That's the only reason the lab even exists in the game, because previously there was no way to retrieve dropped items from the training facility without backtracking since the chapel connects straight to the treatment plant. Poor gameplay design caused that, not poor scenario writing.
i'd like to see sherry as the lead for re7 too. might give her some chance to actually develop, since jake (unfortunately) ended up being the main focus in their re6 campaign.
Jawmuncher
Member
I would think Jake would take the lead. RE6 seemed to set it up for him.
kamineko
Does his best thinking in the flying car
I agree, Jake's ending suggests a franchise future--we see his post-game adventure in a way that we don't see the other characters.
'course, I didn't end up liking him a huge amount. I liked Piers and Sherry the best overall, but Jake seems to be the frontrunner for main character status in RE7, based on the conclusion of RE6.
ULTROS!
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Actually for RE7, I'd like to have:
1. Rebecca and Leon
2. 2 Story Arc with exclusive locations and a few interweaving ones
3. Claustrophobic/horror area like a hospital + abandoned hotel
4. Change camera to fixed angle ala RE:CVX or third person
5. Limited inventory (maybe slightly bigger than the standard 8) with chests
6. Unlimited Typewriting saves
1. Rebecca and Leon
2. 2 Story Arc with exclusive locations and a few interweaving ones
3. Claustrophobic/horror area like a hospital + abandoned hotel
4. Change camera to fixed angle ala RE:CVX or third person
5. Limited inventory (maybe slightly bigger than the standard 8) with chests
6. Unlimited Typewriting saves
sherry is who i want, but it's true that jake is the most likely to be the lead...which sucks, because i really can't stand him. the only thing i liked about him were his hand to hand skills, which were actually pretty fun to use, but otherwise he was my least favorite of the main 7 of re6.
I remember before Revelations 2 I had thought of a sequel scenario where Jake got suddenly ill. The idea was that all the Wesker children had a virus that was injected into them as kids and worked as a failsafe, and he had inherited it from his father.
With Albert Wesker dead, Jake would search for Alex Wesker in hopes of getting rid of the virus. He would get progressively sicker and weakened as the game progressed, affecting your movement and combat abilities.
With Albert Wesker dead, Jake would search for Alex Wesker in hopes of getting rid of the virus. He would get progressively sicker and weakened as the game progressed, affecting your movement and combat abilities.
I just really really hope they let Albert stay dead. Let Jake grow on his own as a character.
GrayChild
Member
Listen to this man, Capcom.
I'd love it if Sherry got her own game but now that I think about it there has been only one "mainline" RE game with only one main character (without a partner) and that's 4. Every other game has at least two characters. Well, maybe 4 and CVX if you don't count Steve -- I mean, why would you?
Oh yeah, for sure. My idea was mostly to get Alex Wesker in the picture.
I'm fine with what we got though. I really liked Rev 2.
the_batman
Banned
nah, bruh. RE7 should have Albert Wesker as the main character, as a reformed person who has seen the error of his ways.
Jill: Didnt you die....in a volcano....decapitated by an RPG?
Wesker: I got better.
Jill: ...
Wesker: Have you heard the good word about Jehova?
Jill: *cocks gun*
This is hilarious..I played the Jake/Sherry campaign to completion at least twice and this just dawned on me.
Makes the stealth sequence so nonsensical lol.
Stallion Dan
Member
And we are done.
Olympic gold mental gymnastics in that post.
"No qualifiers" followed by qualifiers, excuses and ludicrous claims that have no basis in fact and are head canon, like the RE0/RE2 lab claim. It's clearly meant to be the same lab, is just one of the many geography errors in the series, like the RPD parking lot ramp that extends upwards and into the road Leon and Claire arrived on, which didn't have a massive slope leading downwards on it, or the magic elevator in general. RE0 geography was especially bad.
He retracted his head bro, like a turtle, rewind the tapes
Look, just accept that if you rewrite major portions in your head while ignoring the experience comprising 90% of the player's interaction that its airtight.
dragonzdogma
Member
Hi anyone, what's the latest on RE 6 PS4 X1 port?
Strongly suggestive evidence and rumors I believe
Stallion Dan
Member
Unless I missed something, still just the Korean ratings board thing.
Neff
Member
Rated for PS4 and XB1 in Korea and Australia, and Capcom are seeking permission to use review quotes to promote the game for the anniversary. It's undoubtedly happening, but that's all we know.
SolVanderlyn
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I'm probably one of the few really looking forward to playing RE6 again.
I wonder what costumes they'll add?
I wonder what costumes they'll add?
RE6 has a beautiful soundtrack that I feel isn't mentioned often enough.
This song immediately sets the scene.Its really fantastic.
I feel that RE6 had a really strong thematic,and musical presence.
This song immediately sets the scene.Its really fantastic.
I feel that RE6 had a really strong thematic,and musical presence.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I like RE6's music, but think it's not mentioned enough since, honestly, the whole RE series has some really good music. RE6 is somewhere in the middle overall with me, but some of the tracks are fantastic in it (and there's a LOT of music in RE6).
From my personal position, I think Resident Evil Outbreak, Darkside Chronicles, Code Veronica, and Revelations 1 have the best soundtracks in the series (for my taste). Resident Evil 2 and REmake are close.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Outside of the save room themes and maybe RE2's police station, I think Umbrella Chronicles' menu theme is the most memorable track in the series.
When you listen it on its own, it really does sound great, but to be honest, I find RE6 OST pretty forgettable. I remember most of the music from older titles (mainly the PSX ones, CV, Outbreak and RE5), but I can barely remember anything from RE6 beside the menu music and Mercenaries OST.