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Rhindle said:
Batteries are not optional when you buy a wavebird. Should you figure a lifetime supply of those, so it's really $150 instead of $40?

Yes. Why wouldn't you? Wavebirds also have way more battery life than the 360 controllers, btw.

Shouldn't you figure in the price of all the electrical power it's going to take to run your console?

If power charges concern you, yes. Infact, many people do worry about the electrical use of computers and consoles. I pay for utilities, so this does not concern me.

How about pricing a car? I mean, gas isn't optional you know.

Having recently bought a car, I can safely say yes. Gas mileage is one of the first things I looked at when choosing a car.

Maybe you have unlimited cash resources that you don't have to worry about ancillary fees, but that doesn't mean the rest of us do. There is no benefit to pretending things are cheaper than they really are.
 
Culex said:
Funny...sure as hell looks like you said it to me :lol

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I honestly didn't mean to say it completely removes jaggies. I just meant it does offer a cleaner image than composite, resulting in less noticeable jaggies.
 
Zaptruder said:
hahahahahaha.

only nurbs can remove jaggies? Do you know what nurbs are?

Technically no, but they are mainly used for organic modelling because they don't have flat edges like polygons. I would assume you would have less aliasing with them as well.
Guess I'm wrong huh? :(

Also, composite cables can reduce jaggies... but the problem with that is they do so by introducing their own inaccuracies; dot crawl along high contrast edges.
In practical terms, it's like replacing the jagged edge with a slightly checkered dithered pattern... that moves and is somewhat visually distracting.

Yeah, composite cables can reduce jaggies but no where near the amount of reduction you get from component cables and a properly calibrated TV.
 
MidgarBlowedUp said:
Technically no, but they are mainly used for organic modelling because they don't have flat edges like polygons. I would assume you would have less aliasing with them as well.

Guess I'm wrong huh? :(

Yeah. Nurbs are just 3-dimensional curves. They allow nice clean rounded geometry (although you can build flat surfaces with them as well) but the output from the renderer is still 'jaggy' unless an anti-aliasing technique is put into place.
 
MidgarBlowedUp said:
Technically no, but they are mainly used for organic modelling because they don't have flat edges like polygons. I would assume you would have less aliasing with them as well.
Guess I'm wrong huh? :(



Yeah, composite cables can reduce jaggies but no where near the amount of reduction you get from component cables and a properly calibrated TV.

No you don't understand.

Look up nurb in google. Essentially they're just a modelling tool that allows the artist to model in none triangle terms, that also scale their polygon use dynamically based on the needs; (i.e. how far the object is away from the camera and how long you want the item to take to render).

None rational Uniform B-Spline is what NURB is short for. It's something independent to aliasing problems, which have to do with the actual pixel rendering resolutions (as opposed to polygon resolutions, which is another idea altogether).

Composite cables carry a clearer, almost digitial quality signal... if anything, they actually 'increase' (relative to say... S-Video) jaggies; as they accurately carry the source information; that contains the aliased edges.
 
This just in!

J Allard said:
You know, we've talked a lot of expanding the reach of gaming. Back in E3 we said that we believe that the next generation of gaming could touch up to a billion people. Well, introducing this new SKU is yet another step of walking our talk. We designed the Xbox 360 from ground up for the living room - it's not hardcore, black and dark anymore. The logical continuation of this is to address clearly defined segments. So, with Xbox 360, we are targeting for the first time retards. Or, if you are British, "bloody stupid people", rather. We have developed a special Retard Pack to fuel the extension of the Living Entertainment Experience to be Powered by Retard Energy. We are pretty confident that with this setup, we will reach the maximum coverage of the intellectually challenged market. This is an area we feel we have a true first-mover advantage, over Sony. I mean, it doesn't get much sillier than this. Should Sony come up with something even more retarded, we have a couple of tricks in our sleeves, however. I'm not going to show our cards, but we've told the developers not to count on the console on being in every SKU in the future.
 
1 billion retards strong. :lol

It's so depressing that what most hardcore gamers consider "retarded" will be embraced by most people... yet again.
 
debating AA battery life and cost... that might be a new low for this board.
 
Would people here still think the core pack was retarded if they lowered the price of the 20GB HDD accessory?

If the 20GB HDD was the $60-$70 accessory that element had hinted at this core pack would seem a little less retarded.

Still the fact that the HDD has been reduced to an accessory for the core pretty much makes the 360 the same as PS3 or PS2.
 
The only reason the Premium Pack looks good is because all the accessories are overpriced. $40 component cable....$40 memory card....
 
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