Revolution DS

mrkgoo

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Ok, funky controllers aside, could the Revolution (God, i hate that codename), utilise more than one TV?

It was an idea I was pondering back when Goldeneye was out - imagine if the console had the power to output to two screens? multiplayer at home right there!

I mean you COULD use dual processors... but could a console be made as per standard fair (however that be), but simply have the option to operate two screens? I mean, Windows can do it. It'd be like the next level of multiplayer video games, and certainly right up the alley of what Nintendo is creatively capable of, while not being SO far out there (like the suggestions of virtual reality).

Imagine, multiplayer games with your own screen, or...well, I can't think of anything else (that's why I'm no console designer), but I'm sure it could make for some nifty arrangements (and no, not just a map).

Maybe this is something along the line of what Nintendo want to delvier. New, but not new.
 
For one, no casual gamer is going to tug two TVs down to the same room to take advantage of dual display games. So if Nintendo is thinking this is going to be the "Revolution" and will attract non-gamers and older gamers alike, they should just pack up and give up right now.

And for two, no this won't be it.
 
Well, I'm not saying this is it, just wondering if the concept of a new idea, that isn't really new - pretty much like all of their other 'innovations'. Rumble, shoulder buttons, d-pad, analogue, dual screen, touch screen. None of it was new technology, but it was something Nintendo broguth forward to 'advance' the industry. Something new for gamers to chew on, that wasn't just the same old thing, but better.

I'm not saying two screens is the way to go, or evem that it's their plan, but something from the same box of conception.
 
mrkgoo said:
Well, I'm not saying this is it, just wondering if the concept of a new idea, that isn't really new - pretty much like all of their other 'innovations'. Rumble, shoulder buttons, d-pad, analogue, dual screen, touch screen. None of it was new technology, but it was something Nintendo broguth forward to 'advance' the industry. Something new for gamers to chew on, that wasn't just the same old thing, but better.

I'm not saying two screens is the way to go, or evem that it's their plan, but something from the same box of conception.

Well, they seem to be touting something that is quite a level of advancement/difference above those examples you listed, so I don't think it's going to be in this same vein. The technology they use for Revolution will likely have existed already - all possibilities considered, it'd be hard to create something truly "new" as holographic technology and power glove and all that good stuff has already been done in some form or another. But it's gotta be more than something like "Touch Screen" or it's going to be one hella disappointing Revolution.
 
As long as we are posting stupid ideas, what if it made your TV touch screen?

*sigh*

Nevermind.

It's just that I would've killed for such a feature on the N64, but it was obviously out of power range for the little guy.

Not really trying to say that it's my idea of what the revolution will bring, but the kind of outisde the box, yet inside the realm of possibility -type idea.

I guess something like that would ultiamtely not be used, and if it were, it would be forced upon people in a fashion that wouldn't be innovative.
 
So you're suggesting playing on seperate televisions, a la system link, but with only one console?

Well, I could see that being a possibility with the next generation of consoles, but have that the main attraction of the Revolution... not so much.
 
Amir0x said:
Well, they seem to be touting something that is quite a level of advancement/difference above those examples you listed, so I don't think it's going to be in this same vein. The technology they use for Revolution will likely have existed already - all possibilities considered, it'd be hard to create something truly "new" as holographic technology and power glove and all that good stuff has already been done in some form or another. But it's gotta be more than something like "Touch Screen" or it's going to be one hella disappointing Revolution.

Thank-you! I just wanted some opinions of this nature (then again, maybe I should be less slack and go read the dozens of other revolution threads). I see what you mean. Two tv screens is sort of within that realm, though.
 
Cain said:
So you're suggesting playing on seperate televisions, a la system link, but with only one console?

Well, I could see that being a possibility with the next generation of consoles, but have that the main attraction of the Revolution... not so much.


Yeah, the idea might be ok, but the execution wouldn't be. Funny thing about new consoles -if it has a feature, you either overhype it to the point where it fails to deliver anything you promised, or you keep it on the side, and noone ever uses it.
 
mrkgoo said:
Thank-you! I just wanted some opinions of this nature (then again, maybe I should be less slack and go read the dozens of other revolution threads). I see what you mean. Two tv screens is sort of within that realm, though.

Maybe... and this would be cool... the Revolution will come with a device that you'd simply connect to the output of any given TV and would allow the system to "transmit" the data to, say, an upstairs bedroom and a downstairs bedroom. So in terms of multiplayer, one person could be playing upstairs and another downstairs while only requiring one console. This would be awesome because it'd eliminate the usual problems with split screen multiplayer, usually stemming from the other player being able to see your position. That'd be neat. I'd like that. And since MOST people have more than one TV in their home, It could be a remote possibility.
 
Hey, that's REALLY cool - it's like a whole networked game system in one box. This kind of tech does exist too. Wireless controllers, and RF signals to remote TVs.

Too bad even all this would be a little bit too much - a feature really only dedicated to hardcore gamers. Maybe a cool add-on? nah...add-ons never really get full support - that's why I think DS is cool to have so many built-in features -you know everyone has them when they have the machine (a la modem for Dreamcast).
 
I posted a blurb about this possibility in the Great Big Nintendo Revolution GAF Contest earlier today. I reason that most homes have a TV and a computer, many with several of the former, and then there are apartments, dorms, and other venues as well. This would be a pretty rad feature to have. Not only that, but remember that the Wavebird can operate on up to 16 different channels, meaning that 16 of them could feasibly be used at the same time.

I'm beginning to do some research into the feasability of a system like this, so I can include it in my GBNR GAF Contest entry. Rather than make an entry about what I think will happen (although this is on the 'maybe' list I'd say) I'd rather design a system that showcases what I'd like to happen.
 
mrkgoo said:
Yeah, the idea might be ok, but the execution wouldn't be. Funny thing about new consoles -if it has a feature, you either overhype it to the point where it fails to deliver anything you promised, or you keep it on the side, and noone ever uses it.
Yeah, if it were to be something like this, I could see the "Play on multiple TVs... with only one system!" on every ad for it. I admit it would be cool, but it would be overhyped to the point that when it was actually used it wouldn't seem like a big deal at all.
 
Yeah, if it were to be something like this, I could see the "Play on multiple TVs... with only one system!" on every ad for it. I admit it would be cool, but it would be overhyped to the point that when it was actually used it wouldn't seem like a big deal at all.

Or run the risk of 'connectivity-syndrome', where the uses of it are actually inane and medicore.

You know, the revolutionary control could simply be something like a mouse. Hasn't been done mainstream on a console before, and it's the kind of thing Nintendo does. Maybe a stylus and pad.

i'm still waiting for the PC game that uses two mice. I'm sure there's a unique game in there somehwere.
 
mrkgoo said:
Or run the risk of 'connectivity-syndrome', where the uses of it are actually inane and medicore.

You know, the revolutionary control could simply be something like a mouse. Hasn't been done mainstream on a console before, and it's the kind of thing Nintendo does. Maybe a stylus and pad.

i'm still waiting for the PC game that uses two mice. I'm sure there's a unique game in there somehwere.

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AndoCalrissian said:
I posted a blurb about this possibility in the Great Big Nintendo Revolution GAF Contest earlier today. I reason that most homes have a TV and a computer, many with several of the former, and then there are apartments, dorms, and other venues as well. This would be a pretty rad feature to have. Not only that, but remember that the Wavebird can operate on up to 16 different channels, meaning that 16 of them could feasibly be used at the same time.

I'm beginning to do some research into the feasability of a system like this, so I can include it in my GBNR GAF Contest entry. Rather than make an entry about what I think will happen (although this is on the 'maybe' list I'd say) I'd rather design a system that showcases what I'd like to happen.

You wouldn't even need computers or wireless routers. I've seen a device that was basically an RF receiver, and signal - one was supposed to plug into the out put of, say, your living room DVD player, and the other into the RF of your TV upstairs. Voila! (sort of) dvd player in your room! Well, not really, and the quality of RF is crap, but it's the idea that counts.
 
Amir0x said:

Yeah, man! I know Nintendo's done it before, but never made it mainstream - like Isaid add-ons never really get utilised, despite how cool they were (superscope?). they need to be in the box fromt eh start to get support.

i loved Mario Paint. I didn't have a computer then, and my parents were marvelling at the technology of the mouse - you move it, and the pointer moves in the same way! OMG! I actually drew so many pictures on that thing, just to play. I recorded some of them on VCR even. I took that very picture, and coloured mario in all skin toned, so it looked like he was naked. (hmm...that came out a lot more creepy than I figured. trust me, it was hilarious).

Too bad even MS paint blows it away, but somehow, it's just not as fun.
 
mrkgoo said:
Yeah, man! I know Nintendo's done it before, but never made it mainstream - like Isaid add-ons never really get utilised, despite how cool they were (superscope?). they need to be in the box fromt eh start to get support.

i loved Mario Paint. I didn't have a computer then, and my parents were marvelling at the technology of the mouse - you move it, and the pointer moves in the same way! OMG! I actually drew so many pictures on that thing, just to play. I recorded some of them on VCR even. I took that very picture, and coloured mario in all skin toned, so it looked like he was naked. (hmm...that came out a lot more creepy than I figured. trust me, it was hilarious).

Too bad even MS paint blows it away, but somehow, it's just not as fun.

Seriously, Mario Paint just had this charm.

You can't explain it to anyone who is serious into Photoshop or MS Paint, but it's almost undeniable. It's pure joy :P
 
mrkgoo said:
Ok, funky controllers aside, could the Revolution (God, i hate that codename), utilise more than one TV?

It was an idea I was pondering back when Goldeneye was out - imagine if the console had the power to output to two screens? multiplayer at home right there!

I mean you COULD use dual processors... but could a console be made as per standard fair (however that be), but simply have the option to operate two screens? I mean, Windows can do it. It'd be like the next level of multiplayer video games, and certainly right up the alley of what Nintendo is creatively capable of, while not being SO far out there (like the suggestions of virtual reality).

Imagine, multiplayer games with your own screen, or...well, I can't think of anything else (that's why I'm no console designer), but I'm sure it could make for some nifty arrangements (and no, not just a map).

Maybe this is something along the line of what Nintendo want to delvier. New, but not new.


Well, the first solid piece of information (straight from Mr. Nintendo himself, Iwata) was that it would be able to connect somehow to a computer screen, in additition to a regular TV, and I've always thought that as an important piece of the puzzle. All systems can connect somehow to a PC screen, so Nintendo announcing that the Revolution would...well, they would have to have some 'revolutionary' ideas about how and why it would be done. Maybe you're on to something, here :)
 
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