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Revolution info leak?

Pfft, 30.000 views, pathetic.

MEGATON made way over 100.000 atleast. The date for this rumor to prove false was set too close like I said.

RUBATON is still-born.
 
StRaNgE said:
i just hope they do not call it 21, Rebolution was better then that.

:lol

AeroGod said:
YOu have no idea how funny it would be if that was the basis of their advertising campaign in magazines and tv commercials.

"Nintendo 21! Seven times more powerful then PS3."

But they could fight Sony's BS with their own! And just think, Sony'd have to launch their advertising kickoff with something a lot higher than Playstation 9!
 
Well, I just ordered my Nintendo 21 from ebay! The seller seems realiable, he has 100% feedback from some guy who bought something from him, it's so funny though, the guy who left him the feedback had the same nickname as him, only the number at the end was 1 digit lower! I can't wait, he said it's $499 because it's not out yet and it comes with a box! amazing! He also has an auction on how to get a PSP for free and he's only charging $14.99 for the info, this guy is amazing. I'd be a real idot to not buy from him.
 
I know this discussion is "dead" to most people, but I have some comments on this rumor ~*IF*~ they're true...

Media:
-A format like this would be cheap, cheaper licencing/game pricing on Revolution?
-having a case suggests portability maybe?
-stays out of the whole HD-DVD vs BR format war, could be good, could be bad
-BC is still there, but what about DVD?

No-line Online:
-goes along with rumors of Revolution having a built-in HD...for a self-server structure?
-I've heard of a technolgy theory (Reggie mentioned this when talking about Nintendo's "cumminity") whereby plugging something into a house outlet turns the house into a "broadband antena", but I dunno the range nor do I know if this rumor is suggesting this, but it would explain the "Nintendo Home" & "community" phrases Nintendo has been speaking of
-like the DS I think this would have a 2 way structure:
--1 for free local wireless LAN gaming for *anyone* (within a resonable radius of another "Nintendo Home")
--2 would be an ethernet connection to "piggyback" online via PC (remember the PC monitor comments) for longer distance (probably fee or warp pipe-like) network gaming
-I don't see how using a celphone network would work in the Western world though?

Controller:
-I don't think this rumor properly explains the whole "rubbing" thing
-another rumor suggested that "touching is good, but feeling is better" so maybe this "rubbing" idea is more of a "feeling" idea
-where's the gyro motion technology mention???
-with this whole 'getting rid of buttons and mapping different functions onto a touch/feel controller' it leaves one to wonder about traditional gaming, ports as well as the loss of the player actually feeling a button being pressed and depressed?
-however, there is mention of buttons, but with this "rub" or touch/feel on top of them??? Sounds ALOT like my prediction of what the Revolution's revolutionary aspect would be...a "sensory button"!!!
-having an expansion slot on the controller is welcome for versatility, but if they have idea's why not implement them from the get-go so gamers & game makers can take advantage of them right away (like NDS)...price maybe? If it's a price issue then maybe the slot is for a controller touch screen???

The Name:
-Nintendo 21 is probably just a codename? (Nitro to Nintendo DS)
-Nintendo 21 may be refering to a technical aspect we don't know about?
-Nintendo 21 having to do with the GBA/Nintendo/Konami Mobile 21 thing??? Maybe Revolution will be a mobile/home system?

Casing:
-seriously doubt it'll look anything like GCN
-Nintendo has said they're doing research on console design
-other rumors suggest Revolution will look more like N64 than GCN
 
DrGAKMAN said:
Controller:
-having an expansion slot on the controller is welcome for versatility, but if they have idea's why not implement them from the get-go so gamers & game makers can take advantage of them right away (like NDS)...price maybe? If it's a price issue then maybe the slot is for a controller touch screen???
That one's simple. Allows for multipe uses, avoids costs for things someone wouldnt' use, and allows for things to be made that haven't even been considered yet. Wouldn't have made good sense for N64 controller to come with all functionality of rumble pak, controller pak, and transfer pak built in.
 
AssMan said:
lol. This is why other gaming boards say they don't trust the credibility of GAF.

yeah, I always feel embarassed coming here instead of the "really" credible gaming boards like TNL, Gamefaqs, IGN, and the true pinnacle of credibility...Opa-Age.
 
hah? as an old school long time TNL poster, there's no way, no fuckin way that you can say that. GAF has soooo many more people in the industry that love to leak shit out.

something that definitely can't be said about TNL. as far as TNL goes, it's prime was 2-3 years ago. you know, when they lucked out because GameGO! went down, and Kenshin put a link to TNL on the dead GameGO! site. slowly but surely, all the good posters left.

although they still have NeoZeedeater, gotta give mad props there. Johnny Undaunted still post there on occasion, and he's the man.
 
I was just playing Paper Mario with my son and we just came across some text that i found extremly amusing in the game.



"You and Mr. Mustache man can get the Revolution started."



be funny if that was ment as a hint as there being a mario title ready at launch of revilution. lol
 
StRaNgE said:
I was just playing Paper Mario with my son and we just came across some text that i found extremly amusing in the game.

"You and Mr. Mustache man can get the Revolution started."

be funny if that was ment as a hint as there being a mario title ready at launch of revilution. lol
well there was Luigi's diary in the N64 Paper Mario talking about a mansion and ghosts and other things i believe..
 
somebody named pattokun from 4 color rebellion forums translated the text on the picture. it says the buttons are like warts. this rumour looks pretty fake now, but i never bought the part about it being unvield on the 27th anyway. nor do i entirely buy the idea of the network. the controller is the most interesting sounding part to me.

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If the information was real, which it looks like it wasn't real by now, there's only one downer (IMO anyway).

The size of the media disks. Too small, IMO. I'm hoping Revolution disks (somehow) are atleast a regular sized DVD when it comes to storage.
 
The whole "wart" description says to me: buttons that are underneath the controllers skin. So you have bulges in the controller where buttons are..it looks like the buttons are pushing up from under the controller's skin. Could be something to do with the (partial or full) touch sensitivity of the controller skin.

Not that I have much faith that this is real anymore...:P
 
JavyOO7 said:
The size of the media disks. Too small, IMO. I'm hoping Revolution disks (somehow) are atleast a regular sized DVD when it comes to storage.

.. because size always relates directly to storage, afterall. That's why a GC disc holds less than a standard CD, right?

Cough.
 
DavidDayton said:
.. because size always relates directly to storage, afterall. That's why a GC disc holds less than a standard CD, right?

Cough.
Size doesn't always relate to storage, but it usually does when you end your sentence "when it comes to storage." :P
 
Hey hey hey...I was just re-drawing this as a way of re-interpreting it and I noticed something. The disc caddy has a sliding door (like a diskette) running up and down, but look at the "opened up" veiw of the system's drive and the lense is from side to side!

I think the "artist" either quickly drew this without thought or was mistaken in what they saw. The GCN's drive lense is up and down in the back (I would suppose to keep from people accidentally touching it), but this system has it from side to side meaning there would be no way for the lense to see thru to the disk beyond it's caddy. Hmmm...
 
Yes, that's right, light gun technology on the gamepad of the Revolution. Imagine each pad with a small scope at the top of it featuring technology from way back in the NES Duck Hunt days. No not new technology, just technology that hasn't been completely realized yet. Sega did add a D-pad and buttons to their light gun for the Dreamcast but they never took advantage of it. Now Nintendo will not implement D-pad and buttons on a light gun, but instead implement light gun technology into their Revolution gamepad. Yes it can be used to play gun games but the light pointing can be used for so much more. First and foremost it can be used as a cursor to navigate through options, it can be used in sports games for true point and pass gameplay, fps shooters would be "Revolutionized" when you can move your character using the analog sticks but point and shoot like a light gun game, platformers where you point at the direction where you want your character to go to, etc. The possibilities are endless really.
 
ChumsGum said:
Yes, that's right, light gun technology on the gamepad of the Revolution. Imagine each pad with a small scope at the top of it featuring technology from way back in the NES Duck Hunt days. No not new technology, just technology that hasn't been completely realized yet. Sega did add a D-pad and buttons to their light gun for the Dreamcast but they never took advantage of it. Now Nintendo will not implement D-pad and buttons on a light gun, but instead implement light gun technology into their Revolution gamepad. Yes it can be used to play gun games but the light pointing can be used for so much more. First and foremost it can be used as a cursor to navigate through options, it can be used in sports games for true point and pass gameplay, fps shooters would be "Revolutionized" when you can move your character using the analog sticks but point and shoot like a light gun game, platformers where you point at the direction where you want your character to go to, etc. The possibilities are endless really.
you could do the exact same thing with gyroscope technology (or the electron motion actuator things, essentially digital gyroscopes) with the added benefit of not only not having to point at the screen, but also to be able to work with non-crt televisions ;)
 
ChumsGum said:
Yes, that's right, light gun technology on the gamepad of the Revolution. Imagine each pad with a small scope at the top of it featuring technology from way back in the NES Duck Hunt days. No not new technology, just technology that hasn't been completely realized yet. Sega did add a D-pad and buttons to their light gun for the Dreamcast but they never took advantage of it. Now Nintendo will not implement D-pad and buttons on a light gun, but instead implement light gun technology into their Revolution gamepad. Yes it can be used to play gun games but the light pointing can be used for so much more. First and foremost it can be used as a cursor to navigate through options, it can be used in sports games for true point and pass gameplay, fps shooters would be "Revolutionized" when you can move your character using the analog sticks but point and shoot like a light gun game, platformers where you point at the direction where you want your character to go to, etc. The possibilities are endless really.

I'm pretty sure a gyroscope could do all that.
 
I was thinkin the other day about a gun to use with FPS...but how would you jump/switch weapons/throw grenades/etc...one hand would be on the analog stick while the other was on the trigger,can't see it being comfortable and workable.
 
Yes, but with a gyro you'd need an on-screen cursor all the time for point and click/shoot. Light gun technology can hide your cursor from the opponent in the same room.
 
Ramirez said:
I was thinkin the other day about a gun to use with FPS...but how would you jump/switch weapons/throw grenades/etc...one hand would be on the analog stick while the other was on the trigger,can't see it being comfortable and workable.

You wouldn't be using a gun, you'd use a standard pad, it's just got a scope at the top of it.
 
ChumsGum said:
You wouldn't be using a gun, you'd use a standard pad, it's just got a scope at the top of it.
youre not really making much sense. essentially your saying it would be a normal controller, but the only way youd be able to see where its pointed is to hold it up your face, with both hands on it, and look through a scope? and youre missing the major point. you cant use current light gun technology on anything but a regular glass tube crt television, at least at a reasonable cost. to do what you said first, move and aim with normal controls, but shoot through the scope, you would have to have your hands in your face the entire time you played the game. it really isnt practical.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Size doesn't always relate to storage, but it usually does when you end your sentence "when it comes to storage." :P

Heh.

I meant amount of space the disk could hold. Instead of 5+ GB, why not get to as close as possible what the competition has.
 
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I know this is an old thread, but I didn't wanna start an all new topic to get burned at the stake as there's already plenty on Revolution threads and everyone is tired of hearing about this at this point so I put it here. I remember when I first saw the lil' drawing of the "Nintendo 21" that it slightly reminded me of something. BAM...I found on my HD some old pics of what was thought to be the "Dolphin" at one point. So...in order to further discuss I put all the pics together so you can see what I'm talking about.

This suppossed "Dolphin" conceptual "leak" wasn't too well known I don't think, but I think it may have been a real Nintendo concept (purple, radical controller, etc.) for what ended up being the GCN, but was changed (alot) in the final production. I think there was a rumor going around that this concept WAS real, but that 3RD parties hated the controller design so Nintendo went more conventional...and when the X-BOX was rumored to be in production, I think Nintendo may have went even more conservative with the console overall for fear of taking too many risks with TWO big competitors instead of just one.

But...could this concept have been a forshaddowing of what Nintendo was really planning? Could this concept in fact be related to the syatem *after* GCN (the Revolution) and could we see how maybe the Nintendo 21 concept compares to it? I think so, so I made this post.

Looking at the consoles themselves both are disk(ette) based and not bare disc based. The Dolphin may have used that car CD-like lip intake, but I think the frontal sketch looks more like it was just a slot to slide in a diskette. The Nintendo 21 is fliptop (like GCN) probably to allow for bare disc placement for GCN BC and/or the rumored DVD playback. The Dolphin concept (you can't tell 'cos the pic is blurry) has a DVD logo on it suggesting it also played DVD's. The Dolphin concept is also sorta N64-like in design, yet had a similar GCN Indigo color to it. We can see some similarities there.

The controller though...I see more. While the Dolphin concept features buttons on the inner grips (where your pinky, ring & middle fingers would rest) and also has a built-in screen the Nintendo 21 controller does not...however...that doesn't mean they're too radically different from one another. In the translated explaination of the Nintendo 21 drawing they say that there is an odd bulge between the two grips and that there is a red centralized button. The Dolphin concept also has the same cosmetic features. The Nintendo 21 controller is said to be touch/feel sensitive all over (over the buttons and the grips) while the Dolphin controller has those buttons on the inner grip...maybe (if these two concepts are somehow related) those inner grip buttons are now replaced by a more practical/player-friendly touch/feel sensory function which the Nintendo 21 controller is said to have.

The very small magazine scan was suppossedly from a Famitsu mag that was going to "break" this info I guess. From the scan pointing out different areas of interest on the controller and just by looking I can sorta guess that this Dolphin controller was going to have a built-in mic (at the very top), possibly a peripheral slot (in the back) and that in place of the right thumb stick was a more rounded feature (trackball?) and the left thumbstick area actually doesn't look like a stick at all, but more of a flat (but textured) surface. The middle handle or grip was kinda bulky and only had access to the red button (whatever that is) and the screen...could Nintendo have been fooling around with the idea's of sensory feel surfaces and touchscreen all the way back then?
 
Ahh yes... the StarCube...

*edit

Some interesting 2001 GCN rumor I found...

Wibble

Dear Aaron
OK, so rumours have it that the Dolphin is coming with voice-recognition abilities wired in. Tell me this is unfounded. Sure it's a nice idea, but voice recognition technology at the moment is a load of rubbish; I have it on my computer; when I tell it to shut down it opens a text window and writes 'hut brown' in it, or something else that's even less like what I said; if I give it a whole sentence what comes out is, admittedly, usually a surrealist masterpiece. It's just not what I said. So there you are in two years time, playing Perfect Dark 2 on Dolphin in co-operative mode, and you're communciating with your team-mate via the voice software. Excellent idea. However, as soon as you enter a building and meet some resistance, you call your computer-ally in to help but can only watch as he plugs himself because your command 'come inside' was just a little too close to 'commit suicide' for the poor programming to handle. I mean come on; no one can sit down and program responses to an entire language into a game; even DVD's aren't that big, and games are delayed enough as it is. Every time you bought a game you'd have to learn the vocab each DVD is familiar with (ie only the words the programmers had time to write in). I can see it now; the acceptable commands will come in a handy 98 page supplement to the instruction manual. Banjo will 'jump', 'run', even 'shoot eggs out of arse' but if you tell him to 'play his guitar' instead of 'pluck' it he'll stand there looking clueless. I think it's a nice idea, but that's the way it's got to stay. Lets wait for the software and the hardware to catch up with the eccentric Nintendo fantasies.
Anyway, you've seen the damn controllers; do they have voice-recognition microphones or not? Yours British-sceptically, Tim Gomersall
 
Oh, that Star Cube! :

"Sources from Nintendo in Japan have now confirmed that Nintendo´s new videogame console, earlier called Project Dolphin, will be named Star Cube. The network, over which you will be able to play against people all over the world, will be named Star Road. Much more about Star Cube and Star Road will be presented at Space World 24-27 of August."
 
Unison said:
Oh, that Star Cube! :

"Sources from Nintendo in Japan have now confirmed that Nintendo´s new videogame console, earlier called Project Dolphin, will be named Star Cube. The network, over which you will be able to play against people all over the world, will be named Star Road. Much more about Star Cube and Star Road will be presented at Space World 24-27 of August."

Star Cube...... LMAO.
 
I remember hearing about something a while ago i think back when nintendo was makeing the GC, that they were workin on 2 systems? perhaps the GC was one and this new one was the other one???
 
These pics were WAY before the *rumor* of the "StarCube". Like a month before SpaceWorld 2000 someone from RARE said something about how the name of the system describes it's shape. StarCube was never real...I think the name *might* have been liked by Mr. Yamauchi, but there was NEVER a pic of this suppossed StarCube. Unrealistic Nintendo fanboys just lapped that up though and made up that "StarRoad" lie! RARE was talking about the CUBE aspect...not anything about the star at all. And again...these pics came months before SpaceWorld 2000 & StarCube rumors.

Yup...my memory is correct these pics were saved onto my HD actually 07/28/99...WAY before the StarCube rumors.
 
StarCube was the supposed name... 3 DAYS before space world. Interesting that StarCube was rumored to use Voice Recognition ;)
 
f_elz said:
StarCube was the supposed name... 3 DAYS before space world. Interesting that StarCube was rumored to use Voice Recognition ;)

If you read my previous post I explain the whole StarCube thing...it was NEVER real...and these pics I'm showing now were from 1999. As you said the StarCube RUMOR happened like right before SpaceWorld. And RARE's tiny comment + Nintendo fanboyism = StarCube + Nintendo fanboyism = StarRoad magical online gaming...both...a *fantasy*!!!

dirtyjfosho...
N-Sider suppossedly got info a while back on the Revolution specs and that Nintendo was working on two different machines (low end & higher "just in case" end models)...I don't think I ever remember any talk/rumors of Dolphin being like this. However, when Nintendo announced their partnerships they talked about hardware licencing (Panasonic Q) and the like.

EDIT: Back on topic...
Looking at the Nintendo 21 concepts, do you think they're comparable to the Dolphin concepts...and do you think either give an idea of what Revolution will be like???
 
I never said the design was real. The name hinted at something... and Starcube and StarRoad were found on Nintendo's norwegian site.
 
f_elz said:
I never said the design was real. The name hinted at something... and Starcube and StarRoad were found on Nintendo's norwegian site.

Okay dude...I'm not hatin' on you, but the picture I just posted is NOT the StarCube!!! To my knowledge there was never a picture of the StarCube. The picture I posted was on N64pro almost a FULL YEAR before the rumor of the StarCube even started. These two...are not...related. So when you reply to my post talking about the StarCube when the pic I posted was NOT this suppossed rumored StarCube I have to correct you.

Again...I'm not trying to be mean.

And in relation to this thread StarCube has lil' to nothing to do with it. However...I do think there are some similarities between the Nintendo 21 & Dolphin concepts and I think it would be interesting to discuss what clues they might give us to Revolution.
 
Anyone notice how similar the original picture's controller looks like IGN's mockup of the GameCube's, back in the day?

It's quite obviously a fake, goddamit it screams fake. The whole thing is too reminiscent of the GameCube, even the fake logo.

I hope by Revolution, Nintendo means something online. Other than that, I'm tired of gimicky shit. I just want to play Street Fighter :lol
 
robertsan21 said:
they have to change design of it. i cant live thru another GC like console. thats the worst design ever


??? i love the GC design. its small and compact. i have a small tv in my room, where i primarily play the gc, but when friends come over, moving the system to the larger tv in the livingroom is a breeze.. it gets quite annoying with the xbox. also, back when i was in college, taking my gc home with me when i was on vacation was painless.. again, cant say the same about the xbox.

if the machine hadnt debuted with the purple color, i seriously doubt most people would be hating on its aesthetics. its a neat little design.
 
I am increasingly confident that Revolution will be as similar to GameCube as DS is to GBA. Many of us had wild fantasies of DS after the first press release - although it was an ARM9-beefed-up-GBA with a touch screen and an extra screen - which is mainly used for maps.

My bet is that revolution will take a fairly normal computer or home entertainment feature (i.e. touchpad from laptop - bad example, but you get the idea) as it's unique angle and differentation. That is then hyped up like there was no tomorrow and well utilized in some of Nintendo's first-party games. EA will bring Need For Speed Underground 4 and Madden 20007, which will be close to the PS3 or Xenon versions, maybe utilize the unique feature out of courtesy.

I'd say forget holograms and space age surfaces. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
 
Chittagong said:
I am increasingly confident that Revolution will be as similar to GameCube as DS is to GBA. Many of us had wild fantasies of DS after the first press release - although it was an ARM9-beefed-up-GBA with a touch screen and an extra screen - which is mainly used for maps.

My bet is that revolution will take a fairly normal computer or home entertainment feature (i.e. touchpad from laptop - bad example, but you get the idea) as it's unique angle and differentation. That is then hyped up like there was no tomorrow and well utilized in some of Nintendo's first-party games. EA will bring Need For Speed Underground 4 and Madden 20007, which will be close to the PS3 or Xenon versions, maybe utilize the unique feature out of courtesy.

I'd say forget holograms and space age surfaces. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
You're going to be correct there.

Nintendo said they are taking existing technology and just applying it a different way than consoles have ever done. Its not going to be something you have never seen before technology wise, just like the ds.
 
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