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[John Harker]

Actually, the Nintendo Revolution System makes a lot of sense.

Calling it the Nintendo RS and having the Nintendo DS actually highlights the synergy between the two systems.

I mean, they are going to share the same online network, right?
This is a good way to link up the two better in the minds of the market.

Nintendo RS & Nintendo DS on Nintendo No-Line System.

So uh... RS & DS on NS.

 

[Mama Smurf]

I hope it's Nintendo RV. Then we could call it Harvey.

 

[WordAssassin]

Aha! So that's why they went with DS.

NER...DS...?


Ahahahaha!

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Nintendo is teaming up with Mosys whom will be providing RAM for their next generation gaming console. Check it out here. The company has said in their conference call that the next gaming system from Nintendo is expected to be release sometime in the middle quarter of 2006.

Those tricksters. The middle quarter? Since such a thing does not seem to exist, I'll take a quarter-length and place it in the middle, getting mid-May through mid-August.

yeah no kidding.


Xbox 360 is supposedly getting 512 MB of GDDR3

then

Revolution gets, ehhh, probably 192 MB of low-latency MoSys 1T-SRAM

'cuz

Xbox1 got 64 MB DDR

Gamecube got 24 MB 1T-SRAM main memory


it'll be same ratio again.



haha, just kidding, i hope.

Well, if Revolution were coming out in Japan this September at $100 less and with an additional 128 MB of slower RAM, maybe.

I was dissapointed the Ultra Nintendo changed to Nintendo 64.

Was it ever Ultra Nintendo? I remember Nintendo Ultra 64.

 

[sc0la]

In the planetgamecube write up it actually states that the mem was licensed to NEC. Was there RAM on chip for gamecube in addition to system RAM?

 

[midnightguy]

http://engadget.com/entry/1234000727042901/

Nintendo Revolution for 2006?

Posted May 10, 2005, 1:31 PM ET by Ryan Block
Related entries: Gaming, Home Entertainment

Nintendo revolution!

Ok everyone, huddle up. Here’s where we stand right now—we’ve got a few days left be for all the big announcements, but we’re gonna lay it down like we got it. So, we know for sure that the Xbox 360, which is being unveiled this week, is going to be shipping in time for the holidays this year. Check. We don’t have much dirt on Sony’s PS3, but we assume it won’t be far behind—we’ll know more as soon as they let it all out next week at E3, or when we get some leaked info (whichever comes first, of course). And what now also know is that [the Nintendo Revolution, also slated for introduction at E3, will be shipping (as previously estimated) in mid 2006—this according to a quarterly conference call by MoSys, a tech supplier to NEC (who is doing the Revolution’s RAM). (FYI, the statement was made about 9 minutes into the call, if you want to bother listening.) Yeah, it’s a mite extrapolated, but MoSys is just the kind of company connected enough to know these kinds of things, but distant enough to have lips that loose. Yo MoSys, you want to drop us a few other details while you’re at it?

[Thanks, BarryH]

MoSys Conference call that at about 9 min in, mentions their 1T-SRAM on NEC's 90nm process will be used in Nintendo Revolution which will roll out in mid 2006

they also mention Hudsonsoft's videogame controller, uses 1T-SRAM (!?)

 

[acoustix]

Was it ever Ultra Nintendo? I remember Nintendo Ultra 64.

It was Nintendo Ultra 64. The logo for Ultra 64 was badass too.

 

[midnightguy]

Those tricksters. The middle quarter? Since such a thing does not seem to exist, I'll take a quarter-length and place it in the middle, getting mid-May through mid-August.




Well, if Revolution were coming out in Japan this September at $100 less and with an additional 128 MB of slower RAM, maybe.


Was it ever Ultra Nintendo? I remember Nintendo Ultra 64.

 

[WordAssassin]

That looks really badass. What were they thinking with that rainbow N logo? Likely the same thing they were thinking when they made the key GCN purple. Which is to say, they weren't.

 

[Chittagong]

What the hell is "the middle quarter of 2006"? Does not compute.

 

[aperfectt00l]

That looks really badass. What were they thinking with that rainbow N logo? Likely the same thing they were thinking when they made the key GCN purple. Which is to say, they weren't.

:lol yeh i agree completely....lets just hope they dont have another kiddie logo for Rev.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Huh the N64 logo was kiddie?

... k.

 

[sc0la]

Huh the N64 logo was kiddie?

... k.

colors = kiddy

 

[OmniGamer]

colors = kiddy

Then what the hell was the Playstation's "PS" logo?

 

[Kicko]

Keep the Revolution name or bring back the NES brandname. And gat damn it's been a long time since I've seen that Ultra 64 logo. Looks like something that was designed in the 80's.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

I think the Mosys memory will be just for embedded memory, Li Mu Bai mentioned Elpedia will supplying the main memory for the Revolution. I'm not sure if his info is accurate.

 

[Manders]

wow. xbox 360 will have a huge lead on this. nintendo doomed?

 

[GaimeGuy]

wow. xbox 360 will have a huge lead on this. nintendo doomed?

Is sony going to be doomed? Xbox 360 will have a huge lead on it.

Ps2 was going to be doomed, with the DC's huge lead, right?

 

[Donnie]

Considering what Mosys say in there conference I think we can assume they're providing embedded graphics memory for Revolutions GPU. Wether they will also provide the main ram is another question, though it seems likely.

but the RAM amount reduction happened about a year or more earlier, sometime prior to Spaceworld 2000. Original RAM amount for Dolphin: 32 to 64 MB of NEC DRAM (not 1T-SRAM) plus 8 to 16 MB of embedded 1T-SRAM

I'm not sure those memory specs were ever anything more then rumour to be honest. Do you know for sure that Nintendo ever really planned to use that much ram in GC? It seems very unlikely that they would think they could provide that much ram and then have to drop so much of it. Especially for the on chip ram, 16MB on chip would have been extremely expensive (Flipper would have been around 150 million transistors instead of 50 million).

 

[Li Mu Bai]

NEC had a definite hand in this:

NEC Electronics Embeds MoSys' 1T-SRAM Memory Technology in 90nm Custom ASIC; Companies Extend Agreement To Use 1T-SRAM In Upcoming Consumer Applications

SUNNYVALE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 24, 2005--MoSys, Inc. (Nasdaq:MOSY), the industry's leading provider of high-density system-on-chip (SoC) embedded memory solutions announced today the renewal of the existing partnership with NEC Electronics to incorporate MoSys' 1T-SRAM(R) technologies into high volume semiconductor devices for consumer applications manufactured on NEC Electronics' 90nm process generation.

"Since the commencement of our original licensing agreement in March 1999, NEC Electronics has successfully deployed MoSys' 1T-SRAM because of its unique combination of performance, density and power capabilities not available from any other competing memory technologies," said Tom Nukiyama, senior technical director at NEC Electronics America. "We now look to extend our relationship with MoSys to jointly offer our ASIC customers requiring large quantities of high-performance embedded memory a compelling solution to enhance their consumer electronics SoC designs. The manufacturability of 1T-SRAM memory makes it the ideal technology for reducing costs and increasing quality, which is why, at the end of the day, we see it as the ultimate drop-in memory solution."

"We are pleased that NEC Electronics will continue to use our 1T-SRAM embedded memory technologies on even more aggressive processes," said Karen Lamar,

http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=MOSY&script=411&layout=-6&item_id=688739

 

[Li Mu Bai]

I think the Mosys memory will be just for embedded memory, Li Mu Bai mentioned Elpedia will supplying the main memory for the Revolution. I'm not sure if his info is accurate.

Yes, but it appears it may be for strictly embedded RAM purposes, or the main pool. I cannot tell yet which. Ah, I believe it's for the license to use Embedded 1T-SRAM memory into customer integrated circuits. (GPU)

 

[midnightguy]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/611/611577p1.html

Revolution Coming Mid-2006
According to the system's memory supplier, anyway.
by Matt Grassamassina

May 10, 2005 - Memory maker MoSys Inc. today announced its first quarter 2005 earnings. In a live conference call with investors and media the company's CEO and chief financial officer Mark Voll stated that MoSys would once again be supplying an embedded 1T-SRAM solution for Nintendo's forthcoming console, codenamed Revolution. He also revealed for the first time a general target ship date for the still top-secret next-generation platform.

"During the quarter we announced that NEC Electronics will now use our 1T-SRAM embedded memory technologies on their advanced 90nm process, and that the initial designs to be incorporated in SoCs will be used in Nintendo's next-generation game console, codenamed Revolution," said Voll. "We are excited to be a participating member of the Nintendo team once again as Nintendo will roll out its successor game console to the GameCube in mid-2006."

The news is exciting for two reasons: first, it's official word that Revolution will again use 1T-SRAM, the same memory standard that GameCube utilized with great results. 1T-SRAM provides significant advantages over traditional SRAM in density, power consumption and cost, according to maker MoSys. "Instead of six transistors utilized in a traditional SRAM storage cell, each 1T-SRAM storage cell contains only one transistor and one capacitor, thus reducing the silicon required and lowering cost. This technology has been proven with the shipment of millions of devices," MoSys writes on the subject.

MoSys did not reveal how much memory it would provide for Revolution.

Secondly, today's news suggests that Revolution will ship well after Sony's PlayStation 3, which is rumored for a first quarter 2006 debut.

IGN contacted Nintendo of America for further comment and will update the story later today if the subsidiary has anything to add.

 

[Manders]

Is sony going to be doomed? Xbox 360 will have a huge lead on it.

Ps2 was going to be doomed, with the DC's huge lead, right?

wrong. sega was going down the tubes years prior to the dc. sony was the biggest thing to hit video games since the original nintendo. everyone loves sony. ms is meh. ps3 of course will outsell xbox 360. no one cares about nintendo anymore, and it being released so far after the xbox 360 is bad news.

 

[midnightguy]

Considering what Mosys say in there conference I think we can assume they're providing embedded graphics memory for Revolutions GPU. Wether they will also provide the main ram is another question, though it seems likely.



I'm not sure those memory specs were ever anything more then rumour to be honest. Do you know for sure that Nintendo ever really planned to use that much ram in GC? It seems very unlikely that they would think they could provide that much ram and then have to drop so much of it. Especially for the on chip ram, 16MB on chip would have been extremely expensive (Flipper would have been around 150 million transistors instead of 50 million).

no I am not certain that Nintendo was actually planning this much, the only thing I am certain of, are the articles. but there were so many of them and they even said it was according to an NEC VP.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/068/068223p1.html

NEC to Manufacture Dolphin Graphics Chip
The designer of Sega's PowerVR chip to manufacture graphics accelerator for Dolphin.
by IGN Staff

May 21, 1999 - In a somewhat surprising move, NEC -- the maker of the PowerVR chipset used in Sega's Dreamcast -- has signed with Nintendo to manufacture the Art-X-designed graphics accelerator for Dolphin. According to NEC's associate vice president, systems integration, Junshi Yamaguchi, the Nintendo graphics chipset will use as low as 8MBs and as high as 16MBs of on-board embedded DRAM. Comparatively, Sony's PS2 features 4MBs on its graphics chip, but also draws upon additional system RAM continuously. It is not yet known just how much system RAM Nintendo's machine will include.

The deal with Nintendo marks NEC's first real commercial business for eDRAM, said Yamaguchi. "And if it goes well we will expand eDRAM to use in networking and other applications, so we are making the Nintendo project a strategic priority."

The company is currently in the testing stages for its eDRAM technology and is reportedly working feverishly to finalize the manufacturing process in time for Nintendo's deadlines.

IGN64 will have more on the story soon.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8pufq7$76q$1@nnrp1.deja.com&output=gplain

"According to NEC's associate vice president, systems integration,
Junshi Yamaguchi, the Nintendo graphics chipset will use as low as 8MBs
and as high as 16MBs of the embedded 1T-SRAM. Comparatively, Sony's PS2
features 4MBs on its graphics chip, but also draws upon additional
system RAM continuously. It is not yet known just how much system RAM
Nintendo's machine will include."

 

[Gahiggidy]

I still own stock in this company...

*checks price*

Still in the gutter.

---------------------------------------


Sooooooo, does this news drive a stake in those MS/Ninty joint-console rumors once in for all?

 

[WordAssassin]

Huh the N64 logo was kiddie?

... k.

Woah, did I say that? I don't think I said that. Infact, I know I didn't, because, I didn't.

The N64 logo was cool, but the Ultra 64 logo was cooler. The name was cooler. This has absolutely nothing to do with one being "kiddie." I never said anything to that effect. It's just another example of where Nintendo dropped the ball. Like carts. If I said that CDs were better than carts would you make a post saying, "Huh carts are kiddie? .....k"



Sorry if I'm coming off like an asshole, I'm just pissed because I burned my hand masturbating furiously over the combination of Revolution news and the Ultra 64 logo.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Woah, did I say that? I don't think I said that. Infact, I know I didn't, because, I didn't.

The N64 logo was cool, but the Ultra 64 logo was cooler. The name was cooler. This has absolutely nothing to do with one being "kiddie." I never said anything to that effect. It's just another example of where Nintendo dropped the ball. Like carts. If I said that CDs were better than carts would you make a post saying, "Huh carts are kiddie? .....k"



Sorry if I'm coming off like an asshole, I'm just pissed because I burned my hand masturbating furiously over the combination of Revolution news and the Ultra 64 logo.

I'm sure you can research this further if really interested, but what I remember is that there was some trademark trouble with the name in some territories, but they wanted to keep the same name worldwide, so fell back to Nintendo 64.

 

[alejob]

Wow, Revolution will use Mosys 1T-SRAM!

Revolution will slaughter the competition, am I rite?!

 

[WordAssassin]

I'm sure you can research this further if really interested, but what I remember is that there was some trademark trouble with the name in some territories, but they wanted to keep the same name worldwide, so fell back to Nintendo 64.

Aww. I've never heard that before. Thanks!

 

[midnightguy]

Revolution at E3 2005
Nintendo may reveal more than previously suspected.
by Juan

May 10, 2005 - The rumor that Nintendo will not reveal the successor to the GameCube, codenamed Revolution, at E3 2005 has been circulating for some time now, putting the gaming public in a tizzy over the looming disappointment. Here's the real deal: Nintendo sources have confirmed Revolution's presence at the show. The company may decide to reveal the system's official name, technical specs and even the system itself. The controller, however, will probably not be shown. It may not be the system "launch pad" gamers hoped for, but to count the Revolution as a no-show is inaccurate.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/611/611660p1.html

 

[Link]

I'm sure you can research this further if really interested, but what I remember is that there was some trademark trouble with the name in some territories, but they wanted to keep the same name worldwide, so fell back to Nintendo 64.

As I recall, Konami had the rights to the Ultra name.

 

[Pellham]

Not in America.

Dec-Feb: Winter
Mar-May: Spring
Jun-Aug: Summer
Sep-Nov: Fall

But if we go by retail calendars, which the industry uses, it's actually:

Winter: Jan - Mar
Spring: Apr - June
Summer: July - September
Fall: October - December