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Revolution Thanksgiving 2006
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BlueTsunami
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Sony (supposedly) has an HD cam built into or sold sepretley (possibly bundled) that is basically EyeToy2. So I wonder how that will affect game development and being able to interface with PS3 games.
Something still doesn't jive here. The Rev has about the same amount of space inside as the Cube, minus the giant fan. Given five years, they're telling me that they can only fit "slightly better than Xbox" tech in there? Five years is a lot of time to shrink hardware.
Of course, maybe the reverse happened. Maybe Nintendo came to IBM and ATI, said "this is the performance we want, make it as small as you can" and viola--Revolution. Hmm.
Oh well, we'll see what they crank out by E3 2006.
Of course, maybe the reverse happened. Maybe Nintendo came to IBM and ATI, said "this is the performance we want, make it as small as you can" and viola--Revolution. Hmm.
Oh well, we'll see what they crank out by E3 2006.
fatty
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Letter to Elise said:
I never said you had "a" console. I'm just talking about getting defensive about consoles in general. It's not worth getting upset about, they're just games.
I guess I'm just different. I love a good system jab, regardless of who it is about. Probably why I find the DS/PSP sales threads hilarious at times.
papercut said:
Very plausible and very possible. Miniaturization costs money-- lots of money. Nintendo could have gone and said, "Look, we're spending a lot on the whole 'revolution' part. Little help please." That, to me, would make sense.
And imagine playing Halo 2+ with the revolution controller.
I am very excited about the revolution, but let's skip the delirium.
Ninja Scooter
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Onix said:
for the convenience to have it all in one box, hooked up to my entertainment center would be worth it to me. To be honest, that is the main selling point for me too right now, so long as the prices for the game downloads are reasonable.
Spike said:
Doesn't that engine scale very well? If Doom 3 ran on Xbox, I could see the UE3.0 running, highly customized of course, on a souped up Xbox.
^^
You can't be serious with that argument again. The whole "so cute nobody will notice" card. It's not definitive and...it doesn't even...say anything.
Duckhuntdog
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phantomile co. said:
Why should Nintendo have to clear up the truth? Is it damaging? I guess so. But they more than warned everyone. Many devs are underwhelmed by the Rev specs. I mean Retro is having a very hard time wooing people to join them once they tell the candidates the basic Rev specs.
If these are lies, which AFAIK they are not, dispute them. I don't think you have anything to lose
littlewig said:
So you did not, in fact, read the article? Or do you just choose to ignore it?
"That stated, many third parties have been partially briefed by Nintendo representatives about the Revolution hardware, its overall horsepower, and the Big N's plan for the console. Based on the information studios have relayed to us, Revolution is truly poised to cater to an altogether different game market than either Microsoft or Sony with their Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 consoles respectively. Nintendo's machine will simply not deliver the same graphic horsepower as its competitors. Revolution is all about the controller and what it can do for gameplay experiences.
When Revolution was initially unveiled, a Nintendo executive said it would be "two-to-three times more powerful than GameCube." The company never commented on Revolution's horsepower again and we were later told that the initial statement was incorrect. However, according to development houses, that description accurately sums up Revolution's power.
"To be honest, it's not much more powerful than an Xbox. It's like a souped up Xbox," a major third party source revealed to us. "But it's the controller that makes the difference and the controller is really nice." "
Continue with your critical thinking of the illiterate variety.
MadOdorMachine
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No, I'm not missing that. It's always been known that Revolution will be the weakest of the next gen consoles. (I'm not littlewig btw although he has some good points) What has this IGN report told us? NOT A DAMN THING! I'm also not trying to argue about the dev kits vs. final hardware, I'm just pointing out that the specs IGN listed aren't final. Okay, so right now they reported that Revolution is slightly more powerful than Xbox or GC. We've been hearing that for months. What I'm saying is that it is too soon to say what the system will be capable of.Y2Kevbug11 said:
From IGN:
IGN said:
The point I'm trying to make is that no one knows (or will at least report) what the system is capable of.
littlewig said:
Please do. I mean, if you can. Which, of course, you can't.
The logical conclusion from that argument is obvious. Since Nintendo paid the same as Microsoft, they are getting the same. They obviously aren't. It's a blatantly obvious equivocation fallacy.
Duckhuntdog
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phantomile co. said:
Not going to happen with Rev hardware.
Fatty: I thought your system jab was hilarious. I LOL'd.
On topic: It only makes sense for Revolution to be spec'd like a "turbo Xbox." That way Nintendo keeps costs down and can price the thing for mass-market consumption right out of the gate. As someone else said, kiddies and old people don't give a shit about pixel shading or bump mapping.
That said, this is a dangerous game Nintendo's playing. I'm still not convinced any new-fangled remote is going to suddenly convince Grandma that she wants to play Nintendo. So the company is gambling its current userbase in an attempt to court non-gamers.
They either have gigantic balls of steel, or they're incredibly stupid.
On topic: It only makes sense for Revolution to be spec'd like a "turbo Xbox." That way Nintendo keeps costs down and can price the thing for mass-market consumption right out of the gate. As someone else said, kiddies and old people don't give a shit about pixel shading or bump mapping.
That said, this is a dangerous game Nintendo's playing. I'm still not convinced any new-fangled remote is going to suddenly convince Grandma that she wants to play Nintendo. So the company is gambling its current userbase in an attempt to court non-gamers.
They either have gigantic balls of steel, or they're incredibly stupid.
I think some developers are full of shite. I remember meeting some lead programmer for a games development company, just after they got their ps2 dev kits in and he said there was no way MS or nintendo could top the PS2's power. I am not saying what is said here about the revolution sn't true, just that you shouldn't believe everything these people tell you.
Spastic Colon
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Schattenjagger said:if man-boob Matt posts it, it must be true
That picture looks like it should be on a sex offender database.
James-Ape said:
Most likely he didn't have a point of reference. For one, when PS2 dev-kits first started going out, Xbox most likely hadn't even been announced, so I'm not sure what to make of the story. But assuming my timelines are wrong, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. Secondly, unlike then, Microsoft and Sony have shown their hands already. It's real easy for developers to make comparisons, and extremely easy to compare it to last gen consoles.
imastalker co.
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:lol the thread should just be renamed to that.Duckhuntdog said:
is it because Nintendo can't hire enough people to work on the game because they bail once they see the specs? :lolDuckhuntdog said:
anyways, you guys have a really great way of ignoring half of what's said in the article. when the day comes that rev can't bust that out, you guys can all spoon feed me the crow.
Hydro_Alexis
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Billy Rygar said:
Dont you just love the extra love always given to nintendo.
i'm not that disapointed as long as it's cheap enough. 150 -200 bucks and i won't really care that much.
The graphics card could make a pretty big difference, but it sounds like it will be underpowered regardless. I would have preferred a little stronger system, but it's going to be a different kind of console, and i'm interested to see what kinds of new games are created for the controller. I will have either a ps3 or 360 for more conventional games with uber eye candy... i'm not immune to the allure of that stuff, but i will buy anything that plays metroid zelda and mario.
The graphics card could make a pretty big difference, but it sounds like it will be underpowered regardless. I would have preferred a little stronger system, but it's going to be a different kind of console, and i'm interested to see what kinds of new games are created for the controller. I will have either a ps3 or 360 for more conventional games with uber eye candy... i'm not immune to the allure of that stuff, but i will buy anything that plays metroid zelda and mario.
Odysseus said:
they didn't have the GC or XBOX kits in, but i am sure they were all announced and stuff. They thing was we were curious how it measured up and he comes out and makes these claims (even my friend and I at the time were a little shocked).
Anyway my point is, some of these guys talk crap. Designers are probably worse.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
Are you guys gonna admit how wrong you are when we finally see games and they look like next gen?Zilch said:
citrus lump
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phantomile co. said:
Hope yer hungry come E3................ :lol
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Your arguement fails because you assume the Revolution won't be powerful.
Plus, your whole point of view is circular. You think the Revolution will be weak because Nintendo isn't getting the same chip as MS, your claim that the Revolution isn't getting the same chip as MS is because the Revolution is weak, CIRCULAR.
Please, it's over for you.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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In a way, this could keep the Rev's MSRP lower than the X360 and PS3. Maybe...
Revolution uses ATI hardware. Epic can probably get a version of UE 3.0 on the system, even if it is stripped down. I see the junker is trying to give Nintendo fans false sense of hope again, only to spurn them once more.
Oh, and
128 megs of ram would suck though if true. I figured Revolution would have 256. Under my expectations.
Oh, and
128 megs of ram would suck though if true. I figured Revolution would have 256. Under my expectations.