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[typhonsentra]

I'm just curious as to where all the money Nintendo spent went

 

[moesyzslak]

Don't worry the guys on the IGN boards are on it:

Ok someone do the math on the graphics:

Equation = x = xbox souped up and
x = 3 x power of GC

x = Revolution Specs

Anyone good at that kind of math?

:lol

 

[Diffense]

The 'souped up XBox' statement I take with a huge grain of salt. 2-3 times Gamecube and souped up XBox don't really mesh. If they do mesh then it means developers are going by bloated XBox paper specs which if Rev realizes in actuality, it'll probably be pretty good.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Didn't Iwata say there would be no noticable difference between the visuals of next gen systems?

On a Non-HDTV, sure.

 

[Joe]

revolution is gonna be awesome. please launch at $200 with $30 games.

edit: will nintendo at least make their games widescreen?

 

[Bob White]

fuck, this one is going to be nuts...

Nintendo really should clear this up already, because it's about to hit that point.

Sys...tem....specs?

Nooooo

 

[Musashi Wins!]

If the system is cheap ($99?), count me in. After paying $400 for 360, I deserve a break!

yea, I hope it means cheap too. I'll buy a Nintendo emulation machine with online play and a few circus games for $100.

 

[dillingerx]

And no HD :'(

 

[littlewig]

EDIT: I KNOW THIS IS OFF TOPIC, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS. WHY CAN'T I POST A NEW THREAD? I ALWAYS GET:

jmoe316, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

because you are a Junior. I'm the only Junior that can post threads, I earned that previledge.

 

[Y2Kev]

That statement was retracted, though. Then IGN said, "Eh, it's probably near that." So it could very well jibe.

 

[Date of Lies]

this isn't so great

 

[Letter to Elise]

No amount of 360 slams can come close to the damage the Rev is experiencing.

But please, continue.

~l2e

 

[op_ivy]

Don't worry the guys on the IGN boards are on it:

Ok someone do the math on the graphics:

Equation = x = xbox souped up and
x = 3 x power of GC

x = Revolution Specs

Anyone good at that kind of math?

:lol

wow

 

[olimario]

BIG QUESTION HERE
Where is the 'before the end of the year' Nintendo event where the name of the system is revealed along with titles being shown?
Didn't Iwata or Reggie promise SOMETHING more before the end of 2005?

 

[papercut]

and this is the main problem with the Revolution are developers/publishers willing to take the risk and do something completely original for a console that nobody knows if it's going to succeds? at least with the DS, Nintendo didn't have to worry too much because the handheld market was theirs but with consoles it's completely different story.

If the Rev and it's first-party games sell well, which they probably will, then 3rd parties will be willing to take the risk developing new games for it. I mean, the controller is bound to impress people, who wouldn't want to be on the launch bandwagon?

 

[Diffense]

I never bought the so-called retraction of Kaplan's statement.
If anything, she was uncharacteristically loose lipped not uninformed.

 

[Tyrone Slothrop]

you can't escape the fact videogames are still a visual medium, so im disappointed

but the console is still very intriguing

[/2 cents]

 

[malek4980]

No amount of 360 slams can come close to the damage the Rev is experiencing.

But please, continue.

~l2e

These devs don't have the final kits or even the GPU. Not that I believe it will be up to PS3 specs.

 

[dorio]

Third parties have revealed to us that the console will top out with 128MBs of RAM, and possibly even less. One studio would not give us an exact figure, but did say, "The same as GameCube plus an extra 64MB of main RAM." That number is by comparison nearly triple the amount of memory in GameCube. However, it is a far cry from the 512MBs present in Xbox 360.

I find this really hard to believe. Really, really hard to believe.

 

[AssMan]

I'd be happy with that, but what I'm worried about the most is Nintendo taking their franchises like Mario and Zelda, and using the REV. features, i.e., creating something gimmicky. I want to be able to play their classic franchises with the shell alone and not deal with "the shell is worthless when playing Mario. The game works with the REV. features alone."

 

[Y2Kev]

I find this really hard to believe. Really, really hard to believe.

Microsoft said doubling the ram was a very expensive decision they had to make. I could see Nintendo doing that and then just selling it at 99. It makes sense with the refusal to support HD.

 

[citrus lump]

well, i guess that just about confirms it :-/

xbox turbo, indeed

fixed.

 

[GitarooMan]

I don't think it's been said in this thread yet, but more interesting to me than the souped up Xbox comment is the 128MB comment. Explains no hi-def and could be really limiting for textures...(I'm no programmer so this is just speculation)

EDIT: Just mentioned above me, oops

 

[Liquid]

well that about wraps it up for nintendo

 

[Izzy]

I find this really hard to believe. Really, really hard to believe.

'Third parties have revealed to us that the console will top out with 128MBs of RAM, and possibly even less. One studio would not give us an exact figure, but did say, "The same as GameCube plus an extra 64MB of main RAM." That number is by comparison nearly triple the amount of memory in GameCube. However, it is a far cry from the 512MBs present in Xbox 360. '

My god, I didn't see that one. Xbox 1.1, indeed. :-\

 

[Ecrofirt]

Sounds like revolution is going to do terribly.

IMO, of course.

 

[Oblivion]

Fucking A...

Guess I gotta eat my words. Drinky was right, all along .

Hopefully the "surprise" Miyamoto mentioned a few days ago was that this is all a load of bull.

 

[Y2Kev]

well that about wraps it up for nintendo

I don't think so. All this does is quiet any speculation that Nintendo was planning to do what Microsoft and Sony were doing, which is what I have long been saying. My idea has been heavily contested by certain Nintendo fans who feel that Nintendo's plan is to do what Microsoft and Sony are planning, only in non-HD resolutions.

 

[littlewig]

BIG QUESTION HERE
Where is the 'before the end of the year' Nintendo event where the name of the system is revealed along with titles being shown?
Didn't Iwata or Reggie promise SOMETHING more before the end of 2005?

Why do you think IGN finally uploaded their Revolution site?

Something is coming soon, I hope.

 

[Unresponsive Bee Victim]

THE SKY IS FALLING!

 

[Ecrofirt]

Fucking A...

Guess I gotta eat my words. Drinky was right, all along .

Hopefully the "surprise" Miyamoto mentioned a few days ago was that this is all a load of bull.

Suplise!

We just-a fuck you in the ass!

 

[CajoleJuice]

I really think there's more speculation on the internet about Nintendo than anything else. No Zelda is really killing the Nintenbots this winter. Myself included.

 

[stone128]

A souped up xbox doesn't sound that bad to me. I know Metriod Prime 3 will look better than most games out there anyways, good artistic sense goes a long way.

I think by the end of this generation X360 and PS3 will do things graphically the Revolution won't be able too. But it's not all about the graphics, Revolution will stand on it's own because of the controller and the new way to play "tired" old franchises like Zelda and Mario. That's all I want really, new gameplay experiences.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

the DS is pretty underpowered. with a small screen. and it's a lot of fucking fun. more fun than the gamecube in not much time is my guess.

so I would meditate on that if this really bums some people out (though it's what every single source has said for some time).

 

[Liquid]

I don't think so. All this does is quiet any speculation that Nintendo was planning to do what Microsoft and Sony were doing, which is what I have long been saying. My idea has been heavily contested by certain Nintendo fans who feel that Nintendo's plan is to do what Microsoft and Sony are planning, only in non-HD resolutions.

how do you suppose devs will port stuff from 360/ps3 to hardware thats barely more powerful than xbox? If this is true it will cannibalize 3rd party support for the system outside of the niche 3rd party games that uses the controller to the fullest. This could be the next saturn as far as support goes IMO. Intense support from nintendo just how sega supported the saturn but kinda lacking 3rd party stuff. I'm sure it'll be a great little system and i'll surely get one but i cant see this thing becoming a more successful than the GC.

 

[papercut]

Have the naysayers learned nothing from the DS?

Anyone who thinks that Nintendo is doomed because the Rev can't output the same graphics as the competition hasn't had a good look at Nintendo's wallet.

They make money, apparently by not listening to naysayers. Surprise.

 

[dillingerx]

Now we know why capcom isn't making Resident Evil 5 for rev

 

[Mifune]

I can imagine a worse experience than playing an FPS of slightly-better-than-Halo graphical quality with the Revolution controller.

 

[Deg]

Nintendo will now earn profit.

 

[Y2Kev]

how do you suppose devs will port stuff from 360/ps3 to hardware thats barely more powerful than xbox? If this is true it will cannibalize 3rd party support for the system outside of the niche 3rd party games that uses the controller to the fullest.

Maybe Nintendo is hoping they won't get ports, which could be an asset to the Revolution in itself?

 

[7Th]

 

[littlewig]

I expect a lot of people eating crow come E3, or whenever Nintendo shows off their games. :lol

And wow to all the people predicting doom for Revolution, did DS not teach you guys anything?

 

[DECK'ARD]

This might be nothing but freestyle.ign.com also now exists but isn't doing anything yet:

freestyle.ign.com [216.35.123.113]

Revolution = Nintendo Freestyle?

 

[koam]

The "souped up Xbox" doesn't bother me, the 128mb or less of RAM does.

 

[Liquid]

Maybe Nintendo is hoping they won't get ports, which could be an asset to the Revolution in itself?

with the way devs are crying right now about dev dollars you think they are gonna wanna throw money in nintendos direction when they can just port stuff back and forth under pretty much one budget between 360 and ps3?

 

[littlewig]

how do you suppose devs will port stuff from 360/ps3 to hardware thats barely more powerful than xbox? If this is true it will cannibalize 3rd party support for the system outside of the niche 3rd party games that uses the controller to the fullest. This could be the next saturn as far as support goes IMO. Intense support from nintendo just how sega supported the saturn but kinda lacking 3rd party stuff. I'm sure it'll be a great little system and i'll surely get one but i cant see this thing becoming a more successful than the GC.

Porting would be cheaper and easier on the Rev.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Have the naysayers learned nothing from the DS?

Anyone who thinks that Nintendo is doomed because the Rev can't output the same graphics as the competition hasn't had a good look at Nintendo's wallet.

They make money, apparently by not listening to naysayers. Surprise.

Yes, but unlike the DS, the competiton can level the playing field without producing a new console. Once Sony and MS copy the gyromote and implment it into PS3/X360, and they will, there is nothing for Nintendo to fall back on. Nintendo needed to be able to compete ona technical level to survive.

 

[Y2Kev]

LOL, the "sky is falling" quote makes me think of Housman in lamenting Nintendo.

And early though the laurel grows
It withers quicker than the rose.

NINTENDO GIVE IT UP. YOU HAD GLORY AND NOW YOU ARE NOTHING, blah blah.

I want to try the controller .

 

[citrus lump]

Really, where is drinky? These threads are like a bat signal for him.

 

[olimario]

Imagine Resident Evil 4 on a system with triple the RAM of the GameCube.
Imagine RE4 with better models, better shadows, better lighting, better textures, etc...

If the Revolution can deliver that then I'm good to go. Sounds like it will.