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Revolution Thanksgiving 2006

moku said:
Besides all that, everytime I see one of these articles, they ALWAYS say, "well, were working with gamecube based dev kits" That means that they DO NOT have the Revolution based dev kits, wich means in turn, they don't know anything either.

Maybe you should go back and read the IGN article and the parts where it says developers have been given insights into the power of the Revolution and then come back and revisit this thread. Take littlewig with you, while you're at it.
 
Odysseus said:
MS/Sony are in the Olympics.
Nintendo is in the Special Olympics.
It all works out.
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I'm not currently making any final reservations on any upcoming system until I've played it myself and know all the info and launch details.

That's why I'm so vehemently anti-360!
 
That means that they DO NOT have the Revolution based dev kits, wich means in turn, they don't know anything either.

Nintendo, however, DOES tell them roughly what the theoretical performance limits will be. If they haven't, your initial batch of third-party games WILL be Gamecube quality, and Nintendo doesn't want that.

I know FOR A FACT that Nintendo has given an initial set of developers reasonable approximations of the Revolution's power so they can target their assets and game engines accordingly. Sooner or later, a friend of a dev is gonna do the wrong thing and post them. The RAM is probably a safe bet; one thing you don't bullshit devs about is the amount of working space you can play with. As for the rest, well, Nintendo probably isn't even 100% certain yet until they see what the chip yields are, but numbers usually only go DOWN as the final specifications develop.
 
The one part I don't get: 128MBs of RAM? I thought Nintendo was emphasising easy development? Surely it would be prudent to stack this up to 256MB, make it so developers barely even have to think about RAM and take the $10-20 hit or pass it on to consumers.
 
Odysseus said:
Maybe you should go back and read the IGN article and the parts where it says developers have been given insights into the power of the Revolution and then come back and revisit this thread. Take littlewig with you, while you're at it.


well...


'Readers are advised to make two notes before continuing with this article. The first is that developers are still working with incomplete Revolution hardware. Most studios are, in fact, developing on "GameCube-based kits," according to major software houses we spoke to, which have asked to remain anonymous. The second is that developers are still without final specifications for Revolution's ATI-developed graphics chip, codenamed Hollywood.'


take that as you will..
 
Odysseus said:
Maybe you should go back and read the IGN article and the parts where it says developers have been given insights into the power of the Revolution and then come back and revisit this thread. Take littlewig with you, while you're at it.
I have a better idea. Stop being a sarcastic twit, and just state your buisness and move on.

"Given insights" doesn't mean jack-shit to me. Screens/movies, and developers saying;

"WE HAVE FINAL REVOLUTION DEV KITS AND ITS WEAK" does.

Thanks for stopping by, and happy holidays ya' bastard.
 
AndoCalrissian said:
I'm aware that this has been probably been stated before, but 2x-3x something like this?

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Sign me up.

Olimario has already posted these same sentiments.

To which it was replied, "Enjoy RE5 on PS3/X360."

This concludes the thread insta-flashback. We return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
 
Odysseus said:
Olimario has already posted these same sentiments.

To which it was replied, "Enjoy RE5 on PS3/X360."

Really? I don't picture 360 lasting that long. Two years is such a long time. Just ask Sega.
 
AndoCalrissian said:
I'm aware that this has been probably been stated before, but 2x-3x something like this?

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Sign me up.

And you'll likely seee the same number of games on the Rev with that kind of quality. Which is to say, few. :P
 
AniHawk said:
Really? I don't picture 360 lasting that long. Two years is such a long time. Just ask Sega.



Nintendo is the company that releases a quarterly "game worth buying".

If any system finds itself unable to make the full generation, it'll be the Revolution.
 
Drinky Crow said:
How about 5-10x that? BUY A 360/PS3.
:lol

I have yet to see anything that looks 2X, let alone 5X-10X that. Throw RE4 in high rez, and there's absolutely nothing stopping it from more than qualifying it to be a 'next-gen' game.
That's what the standards are now, so enough of this 5-10 bullshit. We haven't seen it yet, and it remains to be seen if we will.
 
moku said:
Not for 400$.

Toy=cheap fun.

Screw 400+ systems that play the same games I've been playing for over 20 years.

You played Devil May Cry, Tekken, Project Gotham Racing, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and Heavenly Sword in 1986?
 
There has to be more to the Rev than just slightly more powerful than an xbox. The PStwo is smaller than the Rev and that will be out for 2 years by the time the Rev is out. The PSTwo is also less powerful than an xbox but not by a enormous margin. You're not going to tell me that tech released two years later in a larger frame will not be a lot more powerful.

I'm thinking that the Rev will be somewhere in between the 360 and the Xbox1. The difference between the Rev and the 360 won't be too huge but 360 will be way sharper due to the added resolution.
 
Drinky Crow said:
I know FOR A FACT that Nintendo has given an initial set of developers reasonable approximations of the Revolution's power so they can target their assets and game engines accordingly. Sooner or later, a friend of a dev is gonna do the wrong thing and post them.

This is true. You don't think Retro doens't know a fairly good amount on the specs of the system? C'mon. They do and they are having a hard time getting people interested in developing for the system.

I like to see Drinky do cannabalism as much as the next person who wants to see Nintendo do well. But Drinky is pretty much right on this one.
 
moku said:
Not for 400$.

Toy=cheap fun.

Screw 400+ systems that play the same games I've been playing for over 20 years.

Where do I sign up to get brainwashed to think this way?

MAGIC WAND IS FUTURE ~ CONTROLLER AM FUCK TOTAL
 
Speevy said:
Nintendo is the company that releases a quarterly "game worth buying".

And Microsoft might actually be the first company to release a decadal "system worth owning," assuming they make it past this one. :\
 
BlueTsunami said:
You played Devil May Cry, Tekken, Project Gotham Racing, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and Heavenly Sword in 1986?
The games you mentioned all have thier roots in older games. Graphics have an impact on what your looking at while playing them, for sure. I should have said 10+ years, as the advent of 3-d, and anolog controll really changed things.

I just want a new experience in gaming, and after having played the 360 in circut city, it just seems like ALOT more of the same.

The Revolution appeals to me for the very reason I have stated above. I also await word on the PS3 in HOPES that Sony will do some very NEW, and cool stuff.

Microsoft bombed out with me. Everything about it is identical to the xbox, just better graphics.

Same goes for the PSP. Same f'ing thing. Now, had the PSP had two-screens, and touch screen with the power, NOW were talking.
 
BlueTsunami said:
You played Devil May Cry, Tekken, Project Gotham Racing, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and Heavenly Sword in 1986?
those are all variations of genres that were created long ago I understand his point. but that said I still want to play those 'variations' of those genres :)
 
AniHawk said:
And Microsoft might actually be the first company to release a decadal "system worth owning," assuming they make it past this one. :\

I liked it best when someone said:

"I'm afraid the Xbox 360 will be quite operational when the PS3 arrives."

;)
 
Zilch said:
Where do I sign up to get brainwashed to think this way?

MAGIC WAND IS FUTURE ~ CONTROLLER AM FUCK TOTAL
Brainwashed? I beg to differ mind-slave.

YOUR the one eating up 400$ systems that play the exact same games as last gen with better graphics.

Have anything else to say? Or all out of witty one-liners?
 
AniHawk said:
And Microsoft might actually be the first company to release a decadal "system worth owning," assuming they make it past this one. :\


Cute, but still not backed up with anything.

Nintendo's problems with marketing, developer support, and hardware/software sales are very real, and are relevant to the company's next generation success.

Microsoft has a powerful system, developer support, and used to have a good advertising campaign (but I'm sure that'll be fixed in time), but their brand's continued growth worldwide is very likely.
 
moku said:
Brainwashed? I beg to differ mind-slave.

YOUR the one eating up 400$ systems that play the exact same games as last gen with better graphics.

Have anything else to say? Or all out of witty one-liners?

So I assume you won't be buying Twilight Princess since you don't want more of the same right?
 
moku said:
Brainwashed? I beg to differ mind-slave.

YOUR the one eating up 400$ systems that play the exact same games as last gen with better graphics.

Have anything else to say? Or all out of witty one-liners?

I guess I'll say: I'm not bored of last-gen games, nor before-last-gen games, or games before that gen. I think next-gen (the real next gen without wonky gimmicks) will suit me just fine.
 
moku said:
The games you mentioned all have thier roots in older games. Graphics have an impact on what your looking at while playing them, for sure. I should have said 10+ years, as the advent of 3-d, and anolog controll really changed things.

I just want a new experience in gaming, and after having played the 360 in circut city, it just seems like ALOT more of the same.

The Revolution appeals to me for the very reason I have stated above. I also await word on the PS3 in HOPES that Sony will do some very NEW, and cool stuff.

Microsoft bombed out with me. Everything about it is identical to the xbox, just better graphics.

Same goes for the PSP. Same f'ing thing. Now, had the PSP had two-screens, and touch screen with the power, NOW were talking.

I understand what you mean and in a way I agree with you. But interface isn't the only way to evolve gaming. Physics, AI and Visuals are also other ways. I personally think its foolish to be so one tracked mind on something.

I personally like Sony's approach with Eyetoy. It didn't expand that much with the PS2 but from what i've seen with Eyetoy2, there can be alot of potential with it. All of this while striving to stay technologically ahead of the competition.
 
ghostface said:
I think some of you retards are setting yourselves up for yet another Nintendo ownage of DS proportions.

Gamecube am cry

I love how everyone forgets about Nintendos console and fixates on their handheld

:/
 
they are targetting a completely different audience then Sony/MS's next gens going for $400 a console wich are geared toward young adults with money

Nintendo with a $150/$200 Revolution will have an easyer time convincing parents to get a Revolution over a ultra violent over-saturated with too many FPS games console like the 360

FLAME ON!

I'm 30 years old and the FPS/Sports genres taking over the redneck market is making me wish for the good old days of Sega Vs Nintendo
 
Speevy said:
Microsoft has a powerful system, developer support, and used to have a good advertising campaign (but I'm sure that'll be fixed in time), but their brand's continued growth worldwide is very likely.

Now what'd be really sweet is if the hardware, accessories and software weren't overpriced, and if the games reflected the supposed power the system had!

But hey, it has good marketing and the brand is popular. That makes up for it right?

I'm not saying the 360 WILL fail. I'm saying it SHOULD. Why do we need overpriced everything? They were in SECOND PLACE and they're pulling this shit already. For the good of the industry!
 
I wasn't part of the community when the DS was unveiled, so is the same as when the DS was unveiled?
 
Error2k4 said:
I wasn't part of the community when the DS was unveiled, so is the same as when the DS was unveiled?

IIRC, people were excited about the DS....until the graphical whores they are saw the PSP then declared doom on Nintendo, blah, blah, blah....and we see where the story is today.
 
ghostface said:
I think some of you retards are setting yourselves up for yet another Nintendo ownage of DS proportions.

Yes, and GBA sure was a great predicter for the success of GameCube. I've seen the light, and I've seen the future, and it is good.
 
BigBoss said:
So I assume you won't be buying Twilight Princess since you don't want more of the same right?
You are correct sir. I purchased Wind Waker becuase it looked different. I liked the game, but it was more of the same.

Make no mistake, I am NOT some jaded gamer. I do love a brand new game with a brand new adventure, or some kick-ass mulitplayer gaming.(I play HaloPC like it's going out of style)

I just want something new to go with my bacon and eggs. Is that so wrong? Do I like better graphics? Fuck yea! BUT, How cool would it be for a system to completly change everything, have new exciting gameplay ideals, and you get that warm wave of "Hot shit! I have NEVER played anything like this before!" Like I did when I first started up Mario64?

THAT is what I crave. NEW to go along with the old.

My ideal situation is for Sony to do something really different, so I have two systems that offer up really new gameplay experiences.

Microsoft is dead to me. Fuck them and thier "same ideas, better package" ribbon tied dog-turd.

The new Zelda? I MAY purchase this when it becomes evident i'm missing out on something special, but i'll wait in NO LINE.

"Give me something old, but fun and i'll be your bitch for a day. Give me something new, and fun, and i'll be your bitch forever"
 
ghostface said:
What about Nintendo's consoles?

Your trying to equate the "ownage" of the DS with the coming "ownage" of the Revolution. I would argue that the markets are different. Gamecube also doesn't give the Revolution the most momentum going into the next generation.
 
Odysseus said:
Yes, and GBA sure was a great predicter for the success of GameCube. I've seen the light, and I've seen the future, and it is good.
So the PS3 does clobber the rest to a bloody pulp.

Sweet. I love always being right all the damn time.
 
Drinky Crow said:
Nintendo A) isn't releasing a NEW CONSOLE in the traditional lifecycle sense, they're releasing a NEW GAMING PRODUCT entirely; B) doesn't seem inclined to care about what the hardcore Halo set thinks as much as they care about wooing new gamers; and C) got utterly assraped playing the old game and are capitalizing on Japan's videogaming market ennui to put out a proprietary platform that can reliably make them bank (as usual).

Drinky for the win.
 
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