Was the person who gave you a reason me? Microsoft aren't letting me buy it on my OS. Valve are.
It's emblematic of how Microsoft's efforts to serve PC gamers are regularly hamstrung by their broader corporate strategies. Their priority is to drive Windows 10 adoption rather than create the best possible PC gaming service.
Vintage said:1. To login to Windows store I need to login through Windows, which puts a password on my pc, so if I want to use Windows store, I'll have to enter password every time I launch my PC. No thanks.
Because I don't want to, because my computer works fine right now, there's no new features of 10 I want, and I rely on my computer for work.And you haven't upgraded to Windows 10, why?
Seems you are limited to 10 installs.
Amazed that Sony worked out unified trophy lists and Microsoft couldn't do the same for achievements. So dumb.
Seems you are limited to 10 installs.
I had a $50 windows store gift card from some random promotion so I could get the windows store version for $4 out of pocket, so that's what I did
My immediate impression of the way they are handling games was pretty negative. The store doesn't ask you where you want to install it, and automatically installs to your C: drive, which didn't have enough space. I realized this quickly, but let it go to see how it would handle it. Rather than telling me, it just installed 8 gigs of the game and then failed. The store itself has no option to change the default download location so a google search led me to the discovery that the option to change the download location was buried in the general windows options, and even then it just lets you decide the drive, not the actual location.
Downloaded the game, it launched fine with no issues. no overlays seem to work with it, which is a bummer (fraps, rivatuner ect). I was able to get the fps counter from shadowplay to work eventually, but I have no idea how. I just kept turning it off and on and eventually it popped up once.
Next, as I tried to add the game to steam as an non steam game, I discovered my major issue I have with this system. The game files themselves seem to be in a folder in the install drive that, even as my own computer's administrator, windows isn't allowing me access to. I haven't put any real time into actually getting in there outside of double clicking and getting a "you don't have permission to do that" error, but I shouldn't have to.
The interesting thing is, and I would love someone else to take a look at this to see if i'm not crazy, my performance seems to be a bit better than those with similar systems are reporting in the main PC performance thread. I'm getting pretty consistent 60fps with some dips into the 50s and high 40s occasionally on a 2gb GTX 680SLI setup, on high with shadows on medium, which is higher than most benchmarks are saying I should be getting. I'm seeing about 80% utilization on my GPUs
The download/installation location issue is enough of a problem for me that I wouldn't recommend going the windows store route unless you have a significant reason to do so (as I did). I would like someone else to check into that performance thing, as I'm going to assume that there is some other factor in play unless someone else comes back noticing the same thing
Was the person who gave you a reason me? Microsoft aren't letting me buy it on my OS. Valve are.
It's emblematic of how Microsoft's efforts to serve PC gamers are regularly hamstrung by their broader corporate strategies. Their priority is to drive Windows 10 adoption rather than create the best possible PC gaming service.
As Zedox posted after you. It means that you can install it on 10 different Windows 10 devices at the same time on which your account is used. If you want to use it on an 11th device you just need to uninstall it on one of the other 10 devices. Seems fair.Why 10? how did they come up with that number?
Did someone just went: "ooh, it's windows 10 so they should have like 10 installations right?"
This is my biggest issue with Windows 10 apps/games. Hope that this gets fixed asap. I would really want to use RTSS with this game.Downloaded the game, it launched fine with no issues. no overlays seem to work with it, which is a bummer (fraps, rivatuner ect). I was able to get the fps counter from shadowplay to work eventually, but I have no idea how. I just kept turning it off and on and eventually it popped up once.
You can take ownership of the folder "Right Click -> Properties -> Security -> Advanced -> Owner: %CurrentOwnerName% Change".Next, as I tried to add the game to steam as an non steam game, I discovered my major issue I have with this system. The game files themselves seem to be in a folder in the install drive that, even as my own computer's administrator, windows isn't allowing me access to. I haven't put any real time into actually getting in there outside of double clicking and getting a "you don't have permission to do that" error, but I shouldn't have to.
I had a $50 windows store gift card from some random promotion so I could get the windows store version for $4 out of pocket, so that's what I did
My immediate impression of the way they are handling games was pretty negative. The store doesn't ask you where you want to install it, and automatically installs to your C: drive, which didn't have enough space. I realized this quickly, but let it go to see how it would handle it. Rather than telling me, it just installed 8 gigs of the game and then failed. The store itself has no option to change the default download location so a google search led me to the discovery that the option to change the download location was buried in the general windows options, and even then it just lets you decide the drive, not the actual location.
Downloaded the game, it launched fine with no issues. no overlays seem to work with it, which is a bummer (fraps, rivatuner ect). I was able to get the fps counter from shadowplay to work eventually, but I have no idea how. I just kept turning it off and on and eventually it popped up once.
Next, as I tried to add the game to steam as an non steam game, I discovered my major issue I have with this system. The game files themselves seem to be in a folder in the install drive that, even as my own computer's administrator, windows isn't allowing me access to. I haven't put any real time into actually getting in there outside of double clicking and getting a "you don't have permission to do that" error, but I shouldn't have to.
The interesting thing is, and I would love someone else to take a look at this to see if i'm not crazy, my performance seems to be a bit better than those with similar systems are reporting in the main PC performance thread. I'm getting pretty consistent 60fps with some dips into the 50s and high 40s occasionally on a 2gb GTX 680SLI setup, on high with shadows on medium, which is higher than most benchmarks are saying I should be getting. I'm seeing about 80% utilization on my GPUs
The download/installation location issue is enough of a problem for me that I wouldn't recommend going the windows store route unless you have a significant reason to do so (as I did). I would like someone else to check into that performance thing, as I'm going to assume that there is some other factor in play unless someone else comes back noticing the same thing
You can take ownership of the folder "Right Click -> Properties -> Security -> Advanced -> Owner: %CurrentOwnerName% Change".
Lol and I believed them when they said they were gonna take PC seriously this time. If I can't install KI in a drive other than C when it comes out, then I can't play the effing game.I had a $50 windows store gift card from some random promotion so I could get the windows store version for $4 out of pocket, so that's what I did
My immediate impression of the way they are handling games was pretty negative. The store doesn't ask you where you want to install it, and automatically installs to your C: drive, which didn't have enough space. I realized this quickly, but let it go to see how it would handle it. Rather than telling me, it just installed 8 gigs of the game and then failed. The store itself has no option to change the default download location so a google search led me to the discovery that the option to change the download location was buried in the general windows options, and even then it just lets you decide the drive, not the actual location.
Downloaded the game, it launched fine with no issues. no overlays seem to work with it, which is a bummer (fraps, rivatuner ect). I was able to get the fps counter from shadowplay to work eventually, but I have no idea how. I just kept turning it off and on and eventually it popped up once.
Next, as I tried to add the game to steam as an non steam game, I discovered my major issue I have with this system. The game files themselves seem to be in a folder in the install drive that, even as my own computer's administrator, windows isn't allowing me access to. I haven't put any real time into actually getting in there outside of double clicking and getting a "you don't have permission to do that" error, but I shouldn't have to.
The interesting thing is, and I would love someone else to take a look at this to see if i'm not crazy, my performance seems to be a bit better than those with similar systems are reporting in the main PC performance thread. I'm getting pretty consistent 60fps with some dips into the 50s and high 40s occasionally on a 2gb GTX 680SLI setup, on high with shadows on medium, which is higher than most benchmarks are saying I should be getting. I'm seeing about 80% utilization on my GPUs
The download/installation location issue is enough of a problem for me that I wouldn't recommend going the windows store route unless you have a significant reason to do so (as I did). I would like someone else to check into that performance thing, as I'm going to assume that there is some other factor in play unless someone else comes back noticing the same thing
Lol and I believed them when they said they were gonna take PC seriously this time. If I can't install KI in a drive other than C when it comes out, then I can't play the effing game.
Hmmm that's strange. That worked for me. That's all I did and now I have full access to that folder.I did try that and it didn't actually work, which surprised me. That was the point where I just went "Meh" and started playing the game. I'll try it again later though. There were a few things I had to do multiple times to actually make them work with this game.
I was more annoyed that I had to do that in the first place
Not exactly correct. If you want more control over the install folder you can alter it via the registry. But granted, that's something that shouldn't be needed. A install prompt or the option "Apps of type X are installed in folder Y" would be a welcome addition.You can, but you have to go into the general windows options before you launch the store to buy it. Past that, while you can choose the drive, you can't choose the actual install location as far as I have discovered. It basically treats it like any other windows app
Hmmm that's strange. That worked for me. That's all I did and now I have full access to that folder.
As Zedox posted after you. It means that you can install it on 10 different Windows 10 devices at the same time on which your account is used. If you want to use it on an 11th device you just need to uninstall it on one of the other 10 devices. Seems fair.
This is my biggest issue with Windows 10 apps/games. Hope that this gets fixed asap. I would really want to use RTSS with this game.
You can take ownership of the folder "Right Click -> Properties -> Security -> Advanced -> Owner: %CurrentOwnerName% Change".
And you haven't upgraded to Windows 10, why?
Is that 10 different windows 10 devices or 10 installs in general?
Wait a sec, this pretty much means one purchase equals 10 licenses, how the hell SE agreed to that? If it works like that then it's way better than "fair".
It's sort of amazing to me that I am on Windows 8 still, and I have no option to buy this game from the Windows App Store.
I can buy it from Steam just fine.
Was the person who gave you a reason me? Microsoft aren't letting me buy it on my OS. Valve are.
It's emblematic of how Microsoft's efforts to serve PC gamers are regularly hamstrung by their broader corporate strategies. Their priority is to drive Windows 10 adoption rather than create the best possible PC gaming service.
Is that 10 different windows 10 devices or 10 installs in general?
Hey everyone, I work with some people who work on the Windows Store. The higher price on the Windows Store is a bug, it should be fixed by now and if not it'll be fixed soon. Steam should have never been cheaper than the Windows Store.
I totally acknowledge that most people who buy it on PC will get it from Steam.
But I want to know from people who bought it from the Windows Store and had problems downloading it. I know that the Store team has done a massive amount of work to make downloads more reliable, and at this point you shouldn't have any problems downloading games - not even large games like Rise of the Tomb Raider.
The download should be able to use your whole internet connection too. The biggest problem is that the progress bar doesn't update enough so it makes it look like the download is slower than it actually is. If you check network traffic in Task Manager you should see it downloading at full speed.
I understand the sentiment. Just understand that the Store on Windows 8 was woefully inadequate, and Rise of the Tomb Raider on the Windows 10 store isn't a simple Win32 game (like the version on Steam) repackaged and distributed through the Store. Instead, it's a full Universal Windows Platform app. While I totally understand that doesn't mean much to you as a customer, so it's probably not a reason for you to upgrade to Windows 10, it's helping to set the stage for the future of the platform. The UWP release of Rise of the Tomb Raider inherently requires Windows 10 because that app platform doesn't exist on Windows 8.
This game proves that the Universal Windows Platform can handle demanding games just fine. Again I know that doesn't mean much to you or most PC gamers now, but it's an important step for the platform as a whole.
If that was the case, wouldn't Microsoft have blocked the Steam release entirely? Of course not. The reality is that Microsoft's publishing partnership with Square Enix both gave most PC gamers what they want (a Steam release), and also a version from the Windows 10 Store for those already on Windows 10.
Windows 10 is already on 200 million devices. It's not like Microsoft thinks that this game in the Windows Store will drive more people to upgrade to Windows 10. It's the other way around - there are already so many people on Windows 10 that putting a version in the Store could be worthwhile.
Unlimited installs across 10 devices simultaneously.
Thanks for dropping by! Appreciate it.Hey everyone, I work with some people who work on the Windows Store. The higher price on the Windows Store is a bug, it should be fixed by now and if not it'll be fixed soon. Steam should have never been cheaper than the Windows Store.
Download used 200Mb of my 500Mb connection according to the network traffic in the Task Manager. Had no problems with the download and installation of the game. Worked just like every other Windows Store app.The download should be able to use your whole internet connection too. The biggest problem is that the progress bar doesn't update enough so it makes it look like the download is slower than it actually is. If you check network traffic in Task Manager you should see it downloading at full speed.
I also appreciate that they(/you?) took the trouble to create a Windows 10 version of the gameWindows 10 is already on 200 million devices. It's not like Microsoft thinks that this game in the Windows Store will drive more people to upgrade to Windows 10. It's the other way around - there are already so many people on Windows 10 that putting a version in the Store could be worthwhile.
I'm not going to speak for the Store team, I'm simply relaying what I've heard from people who do work on Store, but obviously I'm not going to share internal business decisions or reasons for why one feature does exist or why another feature doesn't exist, or whether certain features will change over time.
But 1) You can change the location for the download from Settings:
No idea about the technical limitations around overlays, permissions, etc.
Caayn - anyone can talk to Customer Support to get a refund or partial refund if they were affected by a pricing mistake.
Why 10? how did they come up with that number?
Did someone just went: "ooh, it's windows 10 so they should have like 10 installations right?"
3. Why overlays such as rivatuner or fraps fps counters don't work with the windows store version.
Thanks!
Dat price... damn. Microsoft should have priced it a bit lower since it only works on Windows 10 while the Steam version works all the way down to Windows 7.
Lolololol, MS dropped the Tomb Raider Rise price point from 549 NOK (I think it was previous) to 409 NOK and with the added 11% off it takes the game down to 362 NOK.
Early Win 10 store buyers must be pissed. Not sure if this only happened to the Norwegian Win 10 Store though.
So in other words, early buyers payed 130 aka 14 too much by buying it early.
Cross-posting from SteamGAF:
Will contact them. Just checked the store and the price has been updated. It's now €9(/$10) cheaper then when I bought it last night.Caayn - sounds like that's a question for customer support.
At least, here in Germany, they don't charge more than Steam. Both prices are 44,99.there seems to be no reason to buy it from the win10 store if you're outside america, as they are charging more than steam.
I'm not expecting this to work on Windows 10 phones and tablets, but Microsoft's vision (at least the vision they initially sold me) of Windows 10 was "One single OS for every device" with their universal apps thing. It would be really cool if it was like that: buying the game from the windows store then it works with PC/Laptop, Phones, Tablets and even the Xbox One.
At least, here in Germany, they don't charge more than Steam. Both prices are 44,99.
I'm not expecting this to work on Windows 10 phones and tablets, but Microsoft's vision (at least the vision they initially sold me in their press conferences) of Windows 10 was "One single OS for every device" with their universal apps thing. It would be really cool if it was like that: buying the game from the windows store then it works with PC/Laptop, Phones, Tablets and even the Xbox One.
Price on Steam: £35.99
Price on Windows Store: Normally £46.39, Currently £41.69 (10% Off)
Hmmmmmm...
Amazed that Sony worked out unified trophy lists and Microsoft couldn't do the same for achievements. So dumb.
No, all that is optional. You can log in to the store only without changing your pc account to a Ms account.Is that the store that requires me to login with my Xbox profile and then automatically makes me sign in with that 10 year old profile, my Xbox name and stupid Xbox gamerpicture as my regular Windows account when I start up my PC?
Amazed that Sony worked out unified trophy lists and Microsoft couldn't do the same for achievements. So dumb.
Steam FTW!
Not all games have unified lists. Some are still tied to PS3, Vita and PS4 only.
odd here's my store price
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They fixed price to be same as on Steam. (it was supposed to be like that)
I understand the sentiment. Just understand that the Store on Windows 8 was woefully inadequate, and Rise of the Tomb Raider on the Windows 10 store isn't a simple Win32 game (like the version on Steam) repackaged and distributed through the Store. Instead, it's a full Universal Windows Platform app. While I totally understand that doesn't mean much to you as a customer, so it's probably not a reason for you to upgrade to Windows 10, it's helping to set the stage for the future of the platform. The UWP release of Rise of the Tomb Raider inherently requires Windows 10 because that app platform doesn't exist on Windows 8.
Was the person who gave you a reason me? Microsoft aren't letting me buy it on my OS. Valve are.
It's emblematic of how Microsoft's efforts to serve PC gamers are regularly hamstrung by their broader corporate strategies. Their priority is to drive Windows 10 adoption rather than create the best possible PC gaming service.
So you can only use it on Windows 10, you are limited in how many systems you can install it on and it cost more than the Steam version where such limitations don't exist. And that's not to mention they have GfWL in their history.
Yeah, no thanks Microsoft.