Does anyone happen to know where Rob Liefeld lives or where he might be appearing lately? I had the strangest incident on the way home from Philly on the train tonight, although the likelihood of it being what I thought it might have been is infintecimel. My friend and I were having a discussion about comics, and this guy in front of us happened to be listening in, and chirped in with some helpful information. After a brief conversation, he kept to himself again. Eventually, for some reason I ended up mentioning my low opinion on the style of Rob Liefeld, though in a whisper. The guy in front of us immediately looked very agitated, but never said anything, and left a couple stops later. Now I know it's pretty paranoid to think anything of that, but it really would be amusing if that had been him. Sadly, I didn't think to memorize his face, but he did look somewhat like what I see in photos of Liefeld. However, there's absolutely no reason he would be riding alone on a Septa train at 10pm on a Wednesday, right?
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Rob Liefeld?
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Ninja Scooter
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whereever he is, i bet he's drawing muscles.
Shogmaster
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Ninja Scooter said:
And pointy knees.
Shogmaster
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android said::lol
My brain..... can't process.... image...... X_X
heavy liquid
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:lol ...freakin terrible
Spike Spiegel
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Holy crap. :lolandroid said::lol
Anyway, visit his site! Gaze upon more horrific artwork, like these sketches! I don't see an email address, though... too much hate mail to sift through, I guess.
www.robliefeld.net
NintendosBooger
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Whatever happened to the characters of Prophet and Supreme? I stopped reading both because my interest in comics overall dwindled at around 94-95, but have they resurrected both lines?
Willco said:
I think over the years he's realized some of the basics of proportion and anatomy. Its the times when he tries to draw something outside of his......."repertoire" of poses that you see all the mistakes. All it would take is a few months to read some books and all of that energy he puts into his work will pay off.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Back in the day, when he was writing New Mutants and creating X-Force, he was considered to be one of the brightest young stars in comics. Most people loved his stuff, and his books were hot sellers. But his style wore thin and his prima donna attitude didn't earn him a lot of fans either. He's burned a lot of bridges in his career. It's a wonder he's still can get any work.
SonicMegaDrive
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Rob Leifeld IS 90's comics.
Yeah, I hate him, too.
Yeah, I hate him, too.
Escape Goat
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has anyone ever confronted him about his inability to draw real humans? What is his defense?
DonasaurusRex
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SonicMegaDrive said:
NOOOO Todd Mc Farlane, Jim Lee, Mark Silvestri, Whilce Portacio, Adam and Andy Kubert, Keown (I think thats how you spell it). Those guys were the 90's man...Liefeld just had his moments...his start didnt burn long.
Ahhh Rob Liefeld I remember back in I think 93 or 94 (the year X-Force came out) I was at the San Diego Comic convention ( I had to have been about 12 years old) and my friends and I we're waiting in line for autographs which back then meant you were going to wait in line for a few hours.
We get to the front of the line about 6 people back of actually getting signatures and Rob stands up and gestures that he's leaving, everyone groans and my friends drop their heads in disapointment, I of course beign thh little smartass I was at the time(ha) yell out "WHAT AN ASSHOLE" of course everyone turns to look at us including Rob who gave us all the dirtiest look.
My friends worshiped the ground he walked on (huge new mutants xforce fans) gave me shit about it for the next two days of the con I mean they were really pissed about it like i ruined the damn con for them.
We get to the front of the line about 6 people back of actually getting signatures and Rob stands up and gestures that he's leaving, everyone groans and my friends drop their heads in disapointment, I of course beign thh little smartass I was at the time(ha) yell out "WHAT AN ASSHOLE" of course everyone turns to look at us including Rob who gave us all the dirtiest look.
My friends worshiped the ground he walked on (huge new mutants xforce fans) gave me shit about it for the next two days of the con I mean they were really pissed about it like i ruined the damn con for them.
Kung Fu Jedi
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ManaByte
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
It's funny because it's true. :lol
Sapiens
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
It's too bad Rob is actually a pretty okay looking guy. Which is hilarious considering how they draw themselves. I've seen "Gabe's" art and I've seen Liefeld's art - where does PA get off?
ManaByte
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Sapienshomo said:
See, you're missing the joke.
Liefeld is a joke now. He sits at his little Comic Con booth looking pathetic hoping someone will ask for his autograph. Last year, I saw people walking by, pausing, and then just laughing. It's a small bit of comedy you're always sure to see at the San Diego Comic Con.
Shogmaster
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ManaByte said:
Funny enough, we did exactly that last year. :lol
Spike Spiegel
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San Diego Comic Con is July 14-17. July 13 is "Preview Night" for industry folk.
And no Liefeld thread is complete without the following links:
The Strange Case of Rob Liefeld: An American Tragedy
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Thumbnail: Rob Liefeld
And no Liefeld thread is complete without the following links:
The Strange Case of Rob Liefeld: An American Tragedy
and
Thumbnail: Rob Liefeld
Brian Fellows
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Rob created Deapool....or atleast twisted someone elses creation into Deadpool. He will always be my hero.
Wow. I kinda feel bad for Rob after reading this thread. The guy deserves a little credit, surely, right?
I mean, he created Cable, right? And Deadpool? He broght a little bit of life back into the New Mutants back into the day. X-Force wasn't all that bad, either.
Plus the Image thing. I dont know if he was the first to leave, but he had the first book- Youngblood. (although I admit it did suck)
Yeah, he might have been an ass for a time, but it looks like karma payed him back in spades.
(and if we're relating comic stories, I once got a bottle of water for Gareb Shamus at Dragon Con ('95 I think), and he payed me back with an assload of signed comics and Wizard special issues. That was very cool of him)
I mean, he created Cable, right? And Deadpool? He broght a little bit of life back into the New Mutants back into the day. X-Force wasn't all that bad, either.
Plus the Image thing. I dont know if he was the first to leave, but he had the first book- Youngblood. (although I admit it did suck)
Yeah, he might have been an ass for a time, but it looks like karma payed him back in spades.
(and if we're relating comic stories, I once got a bottle of water for Gareb Shamus at Dragon Con ('95 I think), and he payed me back with an assload of signed comics and Wizard special issues. That was very cool of him)
gettergooey
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Have you guys seen this:
Classic.
Classic.
Ninja Scooter
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i once knew this local guy that made his own comics when i was a kid, and me and my brother figured out that he would actually steal poses from Leifeld! :lol
I dunno, it's crazy to think how much hate Rob Liefeld can get when I feel some of his weaknesses, Jim Lee also shares. Yet, Jim Lee is the top selling artist in the business today. Lee's lack of using black boldly really bothers me. Everything is always colorful, even when he goes dark these days. I want to see his art change radically for various tones but Lee is very signature Lee in everything he does. Usually sacrificing panel to panel movement for iconic shot to iconic shot. Now, he does the iconic shots great, but I'd like variety in my artists. A guy like Frank Miller would have dynamic panels in action, hit the iconic shots, use various styles, use pure black in some inking where it's meant to be used, and experiment like he did in Sin City.
Liefeld obviously lacks some of Jim Lee's talent but a lot of his problems are the same. Probably because Lee is so "comic book" and that's who Liefeld imitates, only people point him out as an imitator. I dunno, but I don't think that much hate is really warranted. He must have done something to get to the spotlight, before making a fool of himself in it. Still, there's worse art offenders out there in comic books, not just this guy. He's just the one people know. But whatever.
Liefeld obviously lacks some of Jim Lee's talent but a lot of his problems are the same. Probably because Lee is so "comic book" and that's who Liefeld imitates, only people point him out as an imitator. I dunno, but I don't think that much hate is really warranted. He must have done something to get to the spotlight, before making a fool of himself in it. Still, there's worse art offenders out there in comic books, not just this guy. He's just the one people know. But whatever.
Shogmaster
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Willco said:
If you can't go on thursday and Friday, don't bother going down there on Saturday and Sunday. The lines are just fucking insane. Like 3 to 4 hour standing outside just to get in. I can get a guest in without having to stand in line (pros can skip the line usually), so let me know if you plan to go on Saturday or Sunday.
Liefeld was always a guilty pleasure for me. I got into comics in the '90s (Uncanny X-Men #300 sold me if I recall correctly, which was John Romita Jr. at the time) so for me, a lot of this is old romping grounds. And it also makes me realize what a sucker I was, and am, for the '90s superhero flavor.
Liefeld was towards the bottom of the esteemed '90s artists though in my opinion, as while I still bought and have a lot of his stuff, the stories were notably weak and his style did wear old quickly. The other eventual Image guys, except maybe Silvestri, at least had a bit more depth to their stylings. That article Spiegel linked is spot on.
The attempt to bring back the image guys into the Marvel universe on the whole was silly, and was largely a guilty pleasure on my part...I mean, I never got much into the Hulk or Iron Man, but Whilce Portacio certainly added a (predictable) darkness to it. Still though, I liked Image before it was, well, Image:
I entirely expect to be shat on for my opinions by the comic elitists, but I won't take any offense to it. I understand I was probably fueling the fires of what was probably a despised trend by people that dug below the surface of superhero comics, but hey, I was young.
That said, I think it was probably better than what's going on now. I did a quick search on Marc Silvestri and it yielded this:
Liefeld was towards the bottom of the esteemed '90s artists though in my opinion, as while I still bought and have a lot of his stuff, the stories were notably weak and his style did wear old quickly. The other eventual Image guys, except maybe Silvestri, at least had a bit more depth to their stylings. That article Spiegel linked is spot on.
The attempt to bring back the image guys into the Marvel universe on the whole was silly, and was largely a guilty pleasure on my part...I mean, I never got much into the Hulk or Iron Man, but Whilce Portacio certainly added a (predictable) darkness to it. Still though, I liked Image before it was, well, Image:
I entirely expect to be shat on for my opinions by the comic elitists, but I won't take any offense to it. I understand I was probably fueling the fires of what was probably a despised trend by people that dug below the surface of superhero comics, but hey, I was young.
That said, I think it was probably better than what's going on now. I did a quick search on Marc Silvestri and it yielded this:
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