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RS6Vegas to be canned?

Yes, its Xbox 360 related, but its got political shit...

Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman is not happy with the latest Rainbow Six title set in Las Vegas, saying it is harmful for what federal and state leaders have repeatedly assured him is "the safest place imaginable" after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority is reviewing whether the game infringes on any Las Vegas trademarks. Others think it might not affect the city but rather reflect poorly on Ubisoft, while yet others claim it will backlash on the developer like Hot Coffee did on Rockstar.

"It could be harmful economically, and it may be something that's not entitled to free speech (protection)," Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said of the game's realistic scenes, which he had not personally viewed.

"It's based on a false premise," Goodman said, adding federal and state leaders have repeatedly assured him that Las Vegas is "the safest place imaginable" nearly five years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the East Coast.

"I will ask ... whether or not we can stop it," Goodman said of the game's planned November release.

Sheriff Bill Young questioned the wisdom of showcasing terrorists in this city's bustling tourist corridor.

"It's unfortunate that we're the backdrop for a lot of stuff because of our profile," Young said of Las Vegas. "I'm not a big believer on pushing violence on young people anymore, particularly the more-realistic stuff that's coming out today."

As a child, Young said he and his friends played "cops and robbers" and other imagination-based activities.

"But now it's gone to terrorism, and (video games) make it so realistic. ... I just wonder about bombarding young people's senses with this type of violence," said Young, whose department is dealing with the effects of 19 officer-involved shootings this year, including one that killed a 31-year-old man before scores of Strip visitors on Independence Day.

Las Vegas' high-profile status has long drawn media attention, often showcasing dangerous actions. Frank Sinatra's 1960 caper "Ocean's Eleven" was based on casino robberies, while the 1971's James Bond flick "Diamonds Are Forever" included a Fremont Street car chase.

A plane slammed into the Hard Rock Hotel in 1997's "Con Air," and CBS' hit series "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" offers up a new Las Vegas murder each week. The Stratosphere tower even exploded in "Domino," a Keira Knightley film released in the fall.

The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority will spend nearly $120 million over the next 12 months marketing and advertising the area as a fun adult getaway. That effort helps make the area one of the world's most-recognized locales, for better or worse.

"I'm confident that the general public can distinguish between what's reality and what's fiction," authority spokesman Vince Alberta said. Nevertheless, Alberta said Goodman has asked the authority's legal team to look into whether the game infringes on any Las Vegas trademarks.

Local casino companies will also monitor "Rainbow Six Vegas" closely.

MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said the company was unaware of the game until contacted by the Review-Journal Friday. Company officials will investigate the game's content, and take legal action "should we determine that our trademarks or copyrights have been violated."

Boyd Gaming Corp. wished Ubisoft had tabbed another city for the game's setting, said spokesman Rob Stillwell.

"We go to great lengths to present this as a safe and secure destination," he said. "To the extent that this portrays our destination as an unsafe place to visit, it's concerning."

Ubisoft, a French video game maker, has high hopes for the fifth title in its popular "Rainbow Six" series. The story centers on "an escalating terrorist siege in "Sin City" that threatens to take world terrorism to new heights."

Some Las Vegas icons were altered -- Bellagio's sign reads "Villagio," for example -- while others were made up altogether, including the nonexistent Calypso hotel.

But many local elements are precisely detailed, from Fremont Street's lighted canopy to the replica Eiffel Tower at Paris Las Vegas.

"You will find lots of details about (Fremont) Street in the game," a Ubisoft artistic director wrote on a Web log detailing the game's creation. "In truth all the casinos, hotels -- lets face it, the whole damn city -- are magnificent and really absorbing to create in-game. We were so inspired we wanted to create the entire town to the finest details!"

Ubisoft's game designers set the game here to better showcase new technologies that allow for sharper-than-ever images, said Tim Cummins, Ubisoft's San Francisco-based corporate spokesman. Game designers toured the town to ensure their re-creations were authentic.

"Las Vegas might be the perfect location to show off next-generation console technology," Cummins said. "Not only is it a world-famous and recognizable city, it is iconic, action-packed and completely unpredictable."

Cummins did not respond to questions on local leaders' objections to the game.

But Liping Cai, director of the tourism and hospitality research center at Purdue University, said a video game-themed terror attack should have little short-term impact on people's willingness to travel here.

"However, if that video game becomes so popular that a whole generation is educated on that image, it will" affect people's perception of whether this is a safe destination, he said.

Branding expert Rob Frankel also doubts "Rainbow Six Vegas" will deter people from traveling here.

"I don't think it hurts Las Vegas at all," Frankel said. "If anything, it's going to come across as the unfortunate victim of the video game company."

Controversy surrounding the game, Frankel said, could hurt Ubisoft, much like recent criticism of Rockstar Games' popular -- but equally detested -- "Grand Theft Auto" video game series.

"The guys who are in for a lot of heat are the developers of the game," Frankel said. "We're starting to get to the point where people have had enough" of violent images.

Source: ReviewJournal.com (I'm trying to find the original article)
 

lamotia

Member
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Stinkles said:
Con Air says "Hi."
"A plane slammed into the Hard Rock Hotel in 1997's "Con Air," and CBS' hit series "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" offers up a new Las Vegas murder each week. The Stratosphere tower even exploded in "Domino," a Keira Knightley film released in the fall."
 

Vrolokus

Banned
Wow, it's interesting that after decades of their permissive attitude on prostitution, gambling and public intoxication, Vegas has made a strong moral stance on videogame violence.

*rolls eyes so hard he gets woozy and has to lie down*
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
OMG ITS A ****EN VIDEO GAME **** **** **** **** **** **** YOU LAS VEGAS

I'm totally going to snort coke off a prostitutes vagina while she wears a pillow case on her head with the picture of the Mayor of Las Vegas taped to it.
 
element said:
what did he say, I was reading CNN.com and watching CNBC.
he said that people are sick of violence in games. :lol

WTF? Since when did people get tired of violence in games?

Raise your hands if you are! :lol

I'm looking forward to the game, but I never thought this would be a problem with Vegas, since its been having a very "violent" image...by the media, or the world.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
CarlosX360 said:
"A plane slammed into the Hard Rock Hotel in 1997's "Con Air," and CBS' hit series "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" offers up a new Las Vegas murder each week. The Stratosphere tower even exploded in "Domino," a Keira Knightley film released in the fall."


Oh crap Bin Laden likes Con Air???


But seriously will RS6: Vegas sell 2 million this year due to this hype and crazy talk?
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
CarlosX360 said:
I'm looking forward to the game, but I never thought this would be a problem with Vegas, since its been having a very "violent" image...by the media, or the world.


And then you wonder why Vegas, one of the safest cities in the world, is trying to stop this? -_-

Anyways, they won't get far. Play the fiction card and it's all good. This'll just nab the game some free press, deserved or not.
 

Vrolokus

Banned
Compulsive gamblers, people looking for sex romps with escorts, and guys out banging girls in clubs as part of their bachelor party festivities are going to be appalled by Rainbow 6 and change their travel plans.
 

element

Member
Amused_To_Death said:
Whatever happened to "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" promo?
that is still their campaign. but when each character goes around 'I am a doctor' 'My name is Ross' 'I'm Chandler' 'I'm Joey' 'I saw 'shows' when i was in Vegas mom'
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Con Air really happened.. Nicholas Cage really DID save the day so I don't know WHAT they are talkin about!
 

Dr_Cogent

Banned
Canned my ass. If they mean it will ship in cans, that would be more believable than this shit. Ubisoft isn't going to not publish this game because of this crap. I'm sure they'll take their chances.

And I need this game too. So someone would have to pay.
 
DarienA said:
Con Air really happened.. Nicholas Cage really DID save the day so I don't know WHAT they are talkin about!


I know, man! Afterwards he shared that winning lottery ticked with the waitress. What a guy!
 

Vrolokus

Banned
Then he lost his hand in a freak accident, and slept with Cher! And then he hooked up with a prostitute and drank himself to death!

I know the whole story.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
violence and sex are so the same thing stinkles.

Im so glad our society has come to the point where if one believes valuing hot sex drinking alcohol and gambling over shooting a bunch of people in the face you are thought of as a hypocrite. Despite however conservative you are id much rather people be ****in than shootin each other in the head.



The mayor is acting silly thinking this game will make people say IM NEVER GOIN TO LAWS VEGAS!
 
This better not come to pass. I highly doubt it will, it's way too dumb for any court judge to really take it seriously(I hope), but you know who is gonna be in favor of this and bringing it up every chance he gets.
 

squicken

Member
sp0rsk said:
violence and sex are so the same thing stinkles.

Im so glad our society has come to the point where if one believes valuing hot sex drinking alcohol and gambling over shooting a bunch of people in the face you are thought of as a hypocrite. Despite however conservative you are id much rather people be ****in than shootin each other in the head.



The mayor is acting silly thinking this game will make people say IM NEVER GOIN TO LAWS VEGAS!

But are portrayals of sex, boozing, and violence equally "harmful"? Ultimately this guy is just joining the videogame politico pile-on.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
squicken said:
But are portrayals of sex and violence equally "harmful"?


Tokids? eh maybe, thats the parents problem and this game isnt for kids. Portrayals of sex and violence mean nothing to me cause they arent real, and i assume that goes for anyone else above the age of 18. Which is why i say the mayor is over reacting. Unless im giving the american public too much credit, no ones gonna play this and think "oh **** better stay away from vegas!"
 

Ranger X

Member
It's Sin City god damnit. Like it's reputation could be altered.


SAD HUMAN DOUCHE BAGGERY. It will never stop until those stupid focks with power do change their pre-1900 mentality.

You gamers out there and futur men of influence: please promise me you'll end this non-sens.
 
Amused_To_Death said:
Whatever happened to "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" promo?
That shit is so cliche that I don't even understand why people use it.

The quote is bullshit.
Ranger X said:
It's Sin City god damnit. Like it's reputation could be altered.
That's exactly what I was thinking the moment I saw this, and posted this.
 
It's ridiculous that city officials publicly act in such a protectionist manner for a bunch of infinitesimal innuendos in a simple shooting videogame. No one will associate the violent drama presented in Rainbow Six to possible violence and insecurity in Las Vegas, if anything it'll spawn a little bit of interest for Las Vegas as a tourist destination in a few gamers' minds.

The medias are going to talk a lot about this, and guess what will happen in the end? Why are they making so much fuss about Rainbow Six do you think? Free attention and free publicity towards millions of people! An disingenuously opportunistic reasoning compared to a fictional videogame terrorist plot that no one will take seriously in any way.
 

Az987

all good things
This is such bullshit, only reason theres any fuss is because its a video game. I swear, politicians are some of the stupidest people on earth.
 
"On March 3, 2005, Goodman was speaking before a group of fourth-graders at Jo Mackey Elementary School. When asked what he would bring if marooned on a desert island, the mayor replied 'a bottle of gin'. Further, when asked about his hobbies, the mayor named drinking as a favorite."

This guy is a gem. Checkout his wiki for loads more hilarity. Ex-defense lawyer for The Mob, yadda yadda.

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Hey, Mayor Goodman. "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Don't worry, that includes terrorism and videogames.

...I live in Vegas. It actually is a nice, clean, safe place compared to lots of cities.
 
Leondexter said:
Hey, Mayor Goodman. "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Don't worry, that includes terrorism and videogames.

...I live in Vegas. It actually is a nice, clean, safe place compared to lots of cities.

I happen to live there too, have all of my life. Love the city and its not like its portrayed in movies. Also although I don't agree with this statement he made, Goodman has been a great mayor to the city even if he is out spoken.
 
Didn't one of the Grand Theft Auto games basically take place in a fictional version of 'Las Vegas'? For a fictional city, it sure looked a lot like the real one.

All Ubisoft has to do is rename the city into Vas Legas or something similar sounding and then everything is good to go.

How come nobody complains about the countless Cop shows based in Vegas where people get shot up every week? I guess videogames are that much more convincing than TV shows, right?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!
 
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