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[Phoenix]

Once sprint and nextel merge, TMobile will be the cheese that stands alone. While TMobile enjoys good business at the moment, it is surrounded by giants now and has no sugar daddy willing to pony up the money to build out a 3G network as Cingular is doing now. As a GSM player, the only folks who might be interested appear to be the Cingular/AT&T folks as no one in their right minds would roll out a competing GSM player in the states at this point.

So Tmobile folks (I recently made the jump to Cingular), looks like we may all be one big happy family soon enough

 

[MrAngryFace]

LONG AS I KEEP GETTING MY VOICE MAILS 2 WEEKS AFTER THEY ARE RECORDED IM HAPPY!

 

[Jewbacca]

^^

And thats why I went to sprint.

 

[DarienA]

Well I'm done with T-Mobile when my contract expires this Dec. T-Mobile has shit for new phones and handhelds... looks like I'll probably be joining the Cingular family like my missus recently did(She was AT&T).

 

[Phoenix]

Well I'm done with T-Mobile when my contract expires this Dec. T-Mobile has shit for new phones and handhelds... looks like I'll probably be joining the Cingular family like my missus recently did(She was AT&T).

That's what forced me over. I'd pretty much just outgrown TMobile. I never had any complaints about their service or customer support, but when it came time to purchase my Treo650 and get a high speed connection to the Net - Tmobile acted like people shouldn't want those things. So I had to grudgingly let them go. Cingular has had much worse service for me - getting drops and service outages here in Atlanta. THEIR HEADQUARTERS!

 

[Agent Dormer]

I'm going to Cingular from Verizon in August because all of my family is on it now. They're getting extremely, extremely gigantic.

 

[goodcow]

Verizon > everything else

 

[Almighty_Chocobo]

I for one wouldn't mind Cingular acquiring T-Mobile. I haven't received a single one of the many text messages sent to me from several people since I signed up. All their customer support can do is have me send a text message to myself and spout "Working as intended."

 

[suaveric]

I'm leaving Cingular when my contract is up for Nextel/Sprint. I've had really spotty Cingular coverage from the get go. And this is in a major city! THe people I know with Nextel never seem to have trouble with dropped calls or poor service.

 

[AB 101]

Everyone of these companies suck.

 

[Phoenix]

I'm leaving Cingular when my contract is up for Nextel/Sprint. I've had really spotty Cingular coverage from the get go. And this is in a major city! THe people I know with Nextel never seem to have trouble with dropped calls or poor service.

Well, you might want to talk to the people with Sprint since that's whose network you'll be on. Sprint is legend in the world of dropped calls and bad customer service

Their service is cheap as hell though.

 

[RevenantKioku]

I just went back to Verizon, after my year long fiasco with TMobile. (Hell Phoenix, you may even remember, although I doubt it, helping me out with some problems with their AIM/Text shit when I first got the service.)

It was all or nothing with their service, though. And being in Jersey in the summer, and being in the "nothing" range, I just had to call it quits.

 

[Phoenix]

I just went back to Verizon, after my year long fiasco with TMobile. (Hell Phoenix, you may even remember, although I doubt it, helping me out with some problems with their AIM/Text shit when I first got the service.)

It was all or nothing with their service, though. And being in Jersey in the summer, and being in the "nothing" range, I just had to call it quits.

Yep I remember. TMobile seems to have good service in certain areas. I didn't have any trouble with them in the DC area, Georgia, Louisiana, Cali and parts of South America. I do know people who had problem with some of their services though (like text messaging).

 

[Amused_To_Death]

Once sprint and nextel merge, TMobile will be the cheese that stands alone. While TMobile enjoys good business at the moment, it is surrounded by giants now and has no sugar daddy willing to pony up the money to build out a 3G network as Cingular is doing now. As a GSM player, the only folks who might be interested appear to be the Cingular/AT&T folks as no one in their right minds would roll out a competing GSM player in the states at this point.

So Tmobile folks (I recently made the jump to Cingular), looks like we may all be one big happy family soon enough

Where did you hear this? T-Mobile USA is part of Deutsche Telekom, Europe's biggest telecom company FYI. DT is as big as Verizon and Cingular and they might be looking to buy someone up.

 

[Phoenix]

Where did you hear this? T-Mobile USA is part of Deutsche Telekom, Europe's biggest telecom company FYI. DT is as big as Verizon and Cingular and they might be looking to buy someone up.

Yep, know all about DT. DT just had their European TMobile brand delisted from the stock market and is not in any way looking to purchase anyone. Lets just say I heard about this from some people "in the know' as I do a lot of workin the mobile space.

 

[xsarien]

Where did you hear this? T-Mobile USA is part of Deutsche Telekom, Europe's biggest telecom company FYI. DT is as big as Verizon and Cingular and they might be looking to buy someone up.

That doesn't mean much. In terms of raw coverage, T-Mobile has a lot of ground to make up in the U.S., and even before the Cingular/AT&T merger they weren't really up there on the subscriber list.

 

[Phoenix]

That doesn't mean much. In terms of raw coverage, T-Mobile has a lot of ground to make up in the U.S., and even before the Cingular/AT&T merger they weren't really up there on the subscriber list.

That and they lack the money to upgrade their communications and data network. Without a sugar daddy to help them with the billions of dollars it will cost to get to the next 3G specification (or the subscriber list/profit to do so on their own).

 

[suaveric]

Well, you might want to talk to the people with Sprint since that's whose network you'll be on. Sprint is legend in the world of dropped calls and bad customer service

Their service is cheap as hell though.

My roommate has Sprint and it seems to work OK for im as well. Seems like it changes from city to city, but in Chicago, Sprint and Nextel look to be the best choices, from everything I've seen.

 

[Amused_To_Death]

That and they lack the money to upgrade their communications and data network. Without a sugar daddy to help them with the billions of dollars it will cost to get to the next 3G specification (or the subscriber list/profit to do so on their own).

It sounds like they're considering several options:

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...22_RTRUKOC_0_TELECOMS-DEUTSCHETELEKOM-USA.xml

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

Verizon > everything else

Meh, I'm not really very happy with the phone selection on Verizon. As soon as my contract is up I'm switching to Cingular.

 

[Phoenix]

Meh, I'm not really very happy with the phone selection on Verizon. As soon as my contract is up I'm switching to Cingular.

Yeah, in terms of phone selection Verizon is like TMobile - slow and ends up with pretty 'boring' stuff. For phones Sprint and Cingular are definitely king.

 

[xsarien]

Meh, I'm not really very happy with the phone selection on Verizon. As soon as my contract is up I'm switching to Cingular.

Verizon operates on CDMA, not GSM, so the phone selection isn't entirely their fault. It's a mobile standard that, outside of the U.S., is only used in Asia (Australia too?). Sprint's phones aren't really lookers, either. (Of course, "looks" are entirely subjective. I'm completely over the RAZR after both getting up close and personal with it, and seeing the V1150 and Razrberry.)

What Verizon could do is stop crippling phone features due to the rather nebulous "contractual obligations" to their Get it Now providers.

But to each his own. I believe Cingular has a 30 day return policy, minus the charges you rack up in that time. Make sure the phone not only gets a signal where you need it, but the network in your area isn't routinely dropping calls. A nice phone with an assload of features is nice, but it's pretty damned useless if you have constant problems getting a call out.

I'm on the fence between Verizon and Cingular right now, about 50/50 each (my Verizon contract is up in November, if I want to renew I can contact them in September). Between their own network and various roaming agreements, Verizon's coverage is pretty fucking thorough. (The same goes for Sprint.) And to be honest, coverage in a metro area is a given with all of the carriers. Every company has coverage where I'd like it, the question comes down to who has coverage where I need it. Unfortunately, where people need a phone is often the last place in the world that they'd check for coverage.