Corronchilejano
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Yep.
Sarkeesian cancels speech after mass-shooting threat due to cop refusing to ban gun
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Yep.
Dude Abides
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Pretty easy to have that "suck it up and stop being weak" mentality when all you do is make YouTube videos from the safety of your basement.
And when women actually do try to talk about issues facing them, you'll inevitably have men entering the conversation uninvited and claiming "this affects everyone! not just women! why don't you include everyone instead of excluding men???"
Ugh.
Men trying to bring themselves into a conversation about women's issues is such an obnoxious yet overtly common false equivalence. It implies that men and women face the same types of issues, of the same magnitude and severity, at the same frequency. Which is just patently false.
When men try to make discussions about harassment "about everyone" when women are trying to talk about women, it undermines the entire conversation, because women face such a different and incomprehensible level of harassment that it requires totally different solutions to address.
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So you sort of agree with him that Internet trolls, anonymous death threats and what not are not a big deal, because this is all just light social commentary via youtube and a few public appearances?
I have a personal belief that only qualified people should participate in debates... Which means that most men would be automatically excluded from these debates
Dude Abides
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I don't know how you'd get that from my statement.
He's nothing but a little punk, is what I'm saying.
Morrigan Stark
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Anita is a coward because she refuses to risk her life for video games. Duh.
If you aren't willing to DIE for video games, you just aren't a tr00 gamer.
If you aren't willing to DIE for video games, you just aren't a tr00 gamer.
EdibleKnife
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Not just her life but the lives of others. Suddenly, responding reasonably to a threat on the lives of students, especially in the climate we've been in these past few years is somehow the "cowardly" thing to do.
Morrigan Stark
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Shhhhh, why are you bringing reason and facts into this
sonikokaruto
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Corronchilejano
Member
You shouldn't turn people away for a differing opinion. Lack of tolerance is the reason we have psychos like this one in the first place.
Worse. He's misogynistic as fuck, and was apparently blackballed by the Reddit MRA community for literally threatening a rape victim with rape.
He's a disgusting guy who really doesn't have a right to participate in any kind of serious discussion.
DR2K
Banned
Would ending net neutrality stop people from making these anonymous threats?
Last time I got banned in an Anita thread for asking a question that was ambiguous, so I'll clarify that I fully support Anita and the feminist movement in gaming media and that I find these threats disgusting and cowardly.
Last time I got banned in an Anita thread for asking a question that was ambiguous, so I'll clarify that I fully support Anita and the feminist movement in gaming media and that I find these threats disgusting and cowardly.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Net neutrality has nothing to do with this, that just refers to the providers of internet service being able to handle different types of data at different speeds (i.e they could give you slower download speeds on movies compared to music) or from different sources (i.e "use Comcast (TM) video streaming and get silky smooth video today! We're not strangling Hulu and Netflix we swear!)
There's no good/easy/simple solution to it. The social media companies don't want to gatekeep access, and this isn't a problem that's "suddenly" appearing- a-holes making threats via snail mail/voice mail, etc. has been a staple of society for ages, but it's now easier than ever to do it, and to do it in a way that amplifies the volume of them.
EdibleKnife
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Haha I guess you definitely have to toss those out if you desperately want Anita to fit some negative persona. One day, people say she's a pushy feminist with nothing important to say that should take the hint. Another day, people say she's a coward who doesn't stand by her convictions. Another, and she's a manipulator warping peoples minds to her cause by talking about the negative things that happen around her. Anything to turn her into the cast her in the negative and justify the hate.
wow, what an absolute lunatic.
Yep. Sarkeesian has demonized so much by gamers with a knee-jerk reaction against feminism that it's becoming increasingly difficult to separate legitimate critiques of her work from the misogyny and hysteria.
Colonel Pablo
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As bad as I feel for her in having to deal with the unjustified abuse and threats. I believe the school made the right decision. Our rights, especially Constitutional, are unalienable.
Besides, banning guns on campus will do nothing to protect anyone. If someone has the intent to commit a crime, they do not care what kind of laws or rules are in place. The only people that will follow these rules are law abiding citizens. If I were her, I would be more comfortable if they asked people to specifically open carry weapons at the speech.
Besides, banning guns on campus will do nothing to protect anyone. If someone has the intent to commit a crime, they do not care what kind of laws or rules are in place. The only people that will follow these rules are law abiding citizens. If I were her, I would be more comfortable if they asked people to specifically open carry weapons at the speech.
They're not trying to ban guns on campus. They were asking to search/pat down for people attending.
Yes. Nothing will make someone who has been threatened with gun violence more comfortable than dozens of guns on display.
Also, someone should make a Venn diagram with two circles: one for open carry advocates and one for those who attend lectures on feminism.
I'm not predicting much overlap.
Look at all that willpower, though. No social conditioning holding that guy back. What a hero.
I turn people away for having foolish or offensive views of the world all the time. If you can't have standards for your personal relationships, what can you have standards on?
Colonel Pablo
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Regardless, our Constitional Rights (Her right to free speech, and peoples right to bear arms) are unalienable. I say she should give the speech with an AR hanging from her back, and a .357 on her hip.
Zoe
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HP_Wuvcraft
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So, if someone threatened your kid with a school shooting if they showed up to make a speech, you wouldn't want them to ban guns for that singular day?
David Jaffe, is that you?
So brave.
I'm guessing your neighborhood population density isn't very high.
Colonel Pablo
Banned
No, I wouldn't do anything to infringe on anyone's Constitutional Rights. That is a slippery slope, and no singular person (myself included), regardless of my relation or feelings for them, should infringe upon the rights of the many.
I would either pull my child from school, or cancel the speech as she did if I didn't feel safe/comfortable.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
You understand that that's literally one of the forms of censorship, right?
Colonel Pablo
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She didn't have to cancel the speech. Nothing was censored. It was a personal decision.
Zoe
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many > one
crowphoenix
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Colonel Pablo
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it's super hard to be a proponent for reasonable gun ownership with so many out there make us look like insane people
"she should cancel her speech or walk in with an AR strapped to her back" smh
crowphoenix
Banned
I honestly wonder what kind of post-apocalyptic society they believe we live in.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Being threatened with bodily harm if you speak is textbook censorship
By your standard the government outlawing certain topics of speech isn't censorship either, since you're still free to speak, you just get thrown in jail or executed afterwards
Colonel Pablo
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First, criminals are not resonable gun owners, and probably not even legal gun owners.
Second, I never said she should cancel her speech. I would rather see her give the speech, and exercise her first and second ammnedment rights.
Dude Abides
Banned
I didn't realize that an AR 15 on your back stops bullets. You learn something new every day.
I was also unaware that there is a constitutional right to carry a gun into a school auditorium.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
She should have come on stage in a popemobile
...and also had one for every member of the audience
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Can you prove the person who made the threat owned a gun? Let's just make knee jerk decisions based on hearsay.
Colonel Pablo
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So who censored her? Not the government, not the school. Some nutcase threatened her, she didn't feel safe, she decided to cancel her speech. She is still able to champion feminism, critisize the depiction of females in games and she has my support.
Haloid1177
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Oh look preventive measures.
So 1st amendment > 2nd amendment then?
There shouldn't be one that takes priority, they should all be treated as a right.
Being threatened anonymously on the Internet with preventative measures put in place to prevent said threat is censorship?
Learn something new every day.
Should we just go ahead and cross our fingers that he was lying?
I mean, it's not like we shut down places that get bomb threats regularly, right?
The 1st should absolutely take precedence over the 2nd. The expansion of the second amendment to practically do whatever you want with a gun nowadays is ridiculous when it was originally intended to protect citizens from the government, not from someone promoting equal gender representation in entertainment. Or do these people expect Obama's death squads to swoop in and abduct them if they don't bring their guns to Anita's event?
crowphoenix
Banned
First, that's a moot point. The person who wanted to kill her May also have a legally owned gun.
Second, restricting an area to have no guns is not infringing on your rights because you don't lose your guns if you go, and you can choose not to go with no repercussions.
Third, why the hell do you want automatic weaponry at a speech? Do you want things to go worse if something happened?
Dude Abides
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Why are people blathering about the 2nd Amendment? It's Utah law, not the constitution, that prohibited the cops from searching for weapons.
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