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Saudi Arabia: Suicide bomber strikes Shia mosque; 20 killed, more wounded.
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For a while it was actually getting better... But then all those sectarian wars started in the region, and boy do Whabbi Saudis hate Shias. Some are celebrating right now on social media.
Though thankfully many Saudis have expressed their condemnation.
pants
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these were my first thoughts
Really sad 
I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the SA government did not expend any effort in protecting those Shias, whether it was through security or intelligence. And the GCC morons wonder why Arab Shias(or any Shias for that matter) are sympathetic towards Iran, Iran is the only country in the world that protects and supports them.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the SA government did not expend any effort in protecting those Shias, whether it was through security or intelligence. And the GCC morons wonder why Arab Shias(or any Shias for that matter) are sympathetic towards Iran, Iran is the only country in the world that protects and supports them.
Mr. Giggles
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ugh..
Fucking bastards targeting civilians.
Fucking bastards targeting civilians.
Operations
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Didn't the Kingdom have an iron grip of domestic terror control?
starwarsfan541
Banned
Do they care if its targetting shia's?
DesertEater
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Fucked up shit! about 10 minutes from where I live :/
Have you seen Yemen recently?
Operations
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Outside Saudi Arabia.
RustyNails
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It does. This is the first suicide terrorism case in years, maybe decade..The last one that I recall was attempted at Crown Prince's life when a "reformed" terrorist stuck a bomb inside his rectum, went to greet Crown Prince Nayef as an example of rehabilitated terrorist, and then blew up his ass. Thankfully, the force of the blast was stopped by the terrorist's own body and Nayef only suffered minor injuries.
With all those asshole shiekhs inflaming sectarian tensions and openly call for violence without any repercussions, it's not really surprising to see stuff like this happening again going forward.
Well... The US government didn't protect people in 9/11.
The US government didn't protect their citizens two years ago from Boston Marathon booming.
A list of terrorist incidents in Britain https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain
Does that make sense? Of course no.. You are talking about extremely huge terrorist organizations with too many branches around the world, so be logical.
The US government didn't protect their citizens two years ago from Boston Marathon booming.
A list of terrorist incidents in Britain https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain
Does that make sense? Of course no.. You are talking about extremely huge terrorist organizations with too many branches around the world, so be logical.
As with the mosque in Sanaa, IS claims responsibility for this one too.
More at the link:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32843510
More at the link:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32843510
My Shia cousin is working in the KSA, in a giant dairy company, safe to say he just says he's Lebanese, doesn't dare to say he's a Shia for fear of being expelled, always sleeps in the same compounds with Westerners.
The regime there has done little or nothing to abate sectarianism, how could they? Wahabiism is sectarianism by definition and that's the national sect they adhere to.
Well, no one has said it, but ISIS claimed responsibility for this attack.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32843510
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32843510
Death toll is up to 21 now. There was a list of over 40 critically injured and like 20 in unstable conditions. I'm not going to post anything graphic, but here are just a few of they killed including a 5 years old boy who just finished preschool like 2-3 days ago according to a picture his own mom posted:
You hit the nail on the head. Just look at the "sample" picture below:
They just say whatever lies they can come up with and use their positions and status to get people to believe them.
I disagree. There are a lot who do. The main problem is that Wahabis are very loud and with a lot of influence in the country. They have been drumming up for this kind of thing for a while now. There is also the issue with the media in the country where the national TV and Al-Arabia don't show everything (sometimes nothing) to the average Saudi citizen. In Al-Arabia's case, they misrepresent facts even. Some citizens don't even know what's really going on to begin with, so it is not as simple as you say that "they don't care."
There were Sunnis who went to donate blood right after this happened and were strongly in support of Shias even on video recordings.
This whole thing is pretty disturbing as the Daesh/ISIS plans to do more of these attacks in the future...
You hit the nail on the head. Just look at the "sample" picture below:
They just say whatever lies they can come up with and use their positions and status to get people to believe them.
I disagree. There are a lot who do. The main problem is that Wahabis are very loud and with a lot of influence in the country. They have been drumming up for this kind of thing for a while now. There is also the issue with the media in the country where the national TV and Al-Arabia don't show everything (sometimes nothing) to the average Saudi citizen. In Al-Arabia's case, they misrepresent facts even. Some citizens don't even know what's really going on to begin with, so it is not as simple as you say that "they don't care."
There were Sunnis who went to donate blood right after this happened and were strongly in support of Shias even on video recordings.
This whole thing is pretty disturbing as the Daesh/ISIS plans to do more of these attacks in the future...
Tesseract
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fucking bastards
Yo. this is not a product of the last decade. I was a sunni kid in the 90's who was bullied for having Shia friends. things even got more hostile when I was in middle school in 1999. I was demonized for being (not Muslim) for befriending Shias in Khobar. So don't you dare marginalize the Shia plight when I first witnessed it first hand. Shias were always marginalized.
Fuck... I just spent 10 minutes trying to stop crying at that mother's overjoyed description of the picture and imagining how she might feel right now :'(
And every bastard in that picture tweeted "condemnation" of the attack, knowing well that they're gonna go back to the same violent rhetoric they have always vomited to the world.
Some didn't even wait, their condemnations included insinuating that the victims deserved it because they're Shias, or accusing Iran of being behind the attack to "spread sedition (fitna) in the Kingdom"
TheRealTalker
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isn't the place of the attack a town?
likely has less security compared to their main cities
I know recently they arrested a ton of people who wanted to due attacks for ISIS
The town is within the larger Qatif area. The whole place has been surrounded by checkpoints and increased police presence ever since Shia protests a few years back.
TheRealTalker
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oh I see
thanks for the info..... I wonder how the guy got in..... unless he was already a resident
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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At this point, should the world show isis and isis supporters any mercy? at what point is enough enough?
Hexa
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I think we passed that point a long time ago. If there was a button that could be pushed that would instantly kill all of ISIS I'd hope that not many people would hesitate. The issue is how to do so without harming innocents in the process or perpetuating the cycle of hatred.
Nealand Liquor
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Such disgusting people. The picture of the boy tore me up on the inside. There is no end to this until everybody is dead, I don't understand.
Probably not a resident, and since it's Friday prayer, which is performed around noon, I doubt the police officers at those checkpoints standing in the Saudi heat paid much attention or cared.
You can kill every last ISIS member and the problem will still exist. The sectarian problem has to be solved through a reformation in Islam that rejects sectarian violence and hardline beliefs and practices.
But that's not happening, Salafist shiekhs condoning sectarian violence are more popular than ever, and ISIS's horrific acts are not turning people away since they already believe it is alright to kill those who do not agree with them.
I just don't understand anymore. I try to look for the good in humanity but this stuff...I just don't get it. How could someone possess such irrational hatred over something so trivial? How does killing make one better in the eye's of God? Just trying to comprehend the mentality of these deranged idiots is painful. Ugh. I need a hug and a shoulder to cry on.
Mighty Chin
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Dare marginalize it? Man my town is less than ten minutes from this by car and I'm shia myself. I don't know which area you were in, but I'm inclined to believe you as that's not something unheard of anyway. My statement was more about the "All Saudis don't care" part than anything else.
What M.Bluth said is correct. The police at that checkpoint to this town don't check incoming cars around noon as they don't stand in the heat.
The Saudi regime and its religious/security branches are always accused of spreading sectarianism via propaganda or violence by backing sectarianist groups outside of the Kingdom.
It would be ironic if the Kingdom would suffer from the same sectarianism they've been accused of spreading, burning their hands in the flames they've kindled.
You can extend that to most Sunni majority countries in the world. I believe it was last week when Pakistani terrorist gunned down a bus (that had women and children in it if I recall correctly) full of Ismaili Shia. The crime of the victims were them being Shia.
The persecution of Shia and other Muslim minorities at the hand of the Sunni majority isn't something that has come up the last decade, decades or even the last century. It's been going on far longer than that.
GoonerTRON
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*homicide bomber. He didn't just kill himself.
GoonerTRON
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Why the fuck would someone do something like this?
Religion.
Yeah but that was before they started to interfere in Yemen's civil war and start bombing the hell out of Shia rebels there. Now once again you have the stakes being raised for a region wide Sunni vs Shia clash. Both sides are also inflating tensions against one another. There is very little love for Shia Islam in Sunni dominated countries.
Terra Firma
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I would not call some of the stuff in that "sample" as lies. They are also reactionary comments, rather than instigatory. Many Saudi shaykhs have spoken against other groups, including the Sufis, but you don't see Sufis being killed in Saudi Arabia (and yes, there are Sufis in Saudi Arabia; the Mawlid is celebrated even in Madinah!) They have also spoken out against schools of creed, particularly the Ash'ari school.
There are Shi'a who do a lot of the things that those shaykhs have accused them of. Note how none of them are calling for killing of the Shi'a, but they are calling the "Rafidha" as being non-Muslims. Rafidha is a term used for a certain type of extreme Shi'a. Even the Zaydis of Yemen use that term against some types of extreme Shi'a. And no Wahhabi scholar has deemed the Zaydis as disbelievers.
If you want to see the flipside, just look up Yasser al-HabIb (Bahraini Shi'a cleric) and you'll realize why many Arab Sunnis have a negative opinion of the Shi'a, at least from a religious standpoint. The Sunni marginalization that has been going on in Iraq is also seen by many Sunnis who are against Da'esh as having been one of the key factors for Da'esh gaining control over large parts of Iraq.
Rafidah is a term used to paint all Shia don't try to downplay it as merely pointing to extremist Shia, every Shia in his creed rejects what happened to Imam Hussein and the household of the Prophet and reject the reign of Yazid, his father and everyone that came after, that is why they are called rafidah or rejectionist. Shia in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon are called rafidah, nussayria, safawi and majoos (magi), worshippers of graves etc...etc... all time. The only reason for such hate is pure ignorance and sheep like behavior, whatever the mufti says they follow.
Funny how the decades of Sunni oppresion in Iraq didn't lead to such wholesale massacres when the Shia took power marginalization aside.Yet another justification for ongoing Shia genocide, it's not our fault we're slaughtering them they made us hate them...
So okay, some rogue Shia cleric, who was condemned by many Shia clerics and who was basically excommunicated, says something bad so Shias deserve to die because of it?
Also this Sunni marginalization shit is a myth. Sunnis are just unhappy that they don't have complete monopoly and control of the government. Look at the makeup of the Iraqi cabinet. Marginalization my ass.
Poodlestrike
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The short version is that killing members of ISIS creates more ISIS supporters who you then have to kill which creates more ISIS supporters, repeat until nauseous and the bodies get too high to walk through.
With the region in the state it's in right now, the best we could do is disperse ISIS. And maybe that'd be enough. But historically, sticking our oar in has gone pretty poorly. Unless you're willing to commit... I don't know how to phrase it, reeducation by genocide? The only answer is to encourage the regional powers to get their shit together, both militarily and domestically.
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