Genesis Knight
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Another auction ended at ~$90 a few days before his.
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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Another auction ended at ~$90 a few days before his.
sixteen-bit
Member
No surprise there. Auctions are definitely the way to go vs. BIN price gougers. You gotta snipe them though. I missed a sub-$90 shipped Garagga a while back by a second or two lol.
HSS-0130... Someday
All the ones I see for reasonable prices are ruined (i.e. modded for use on modern systems; unusable on Saturn).
Oh hell yeah! I wish I had bought one way back when...
...and yes, auctions for sure. That's how you see the real value of retro games. BIN gouging is for the birds.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
You may be able to get a 360 for cheaper than Guardian Heroes on the Saturn
Especially if you want to get Radiant Silvergun eventually.
Cyberquake
Member
HOLY SHIT, I DIDN'T EXPECT THIS.
He accepted the offer, which was $35 less. (Got it for $115)
Ok, this will be a Christmas gift to myself. My Sega Saturn Collection will finally be complete!
Is the NA version of the game that expensive? I paid 10 for my copy at a local store, 1 or 2 years ago. It's missing the manual tho.
Probably not... GH is still not that rare on Saturn and may never be. It's only $50-$60 auction priced.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
It was more expensive when I sold both of my copies. This was before the XBLA version was announced though.
Yeah, prices have come down a little, but it's also never been as collectible as say Radiant Silvergun, or Panzer Dragoon Saga or even Burning Rangers because it actually sold well.
BR and PDS are the two US releases that are definitely in lower print runs, though even Burning Rangers isn't that hard to find in a retro shop.
BR and PDS are the two US releases that are definitely in lower print runs, though even Burning Rangers isn't that hard to find in a retro shop.
sixteen-bit
Member
Regarding Silvergun, it's always fascinated me. With over 25,000 units printed, it pretty much destroys the idea that a game's scarcity is correlated to its value.
There are a number of
Saturn games with much smaller print runs no where near the value of RS.
There are a number of
better
I already found it for ~$42
I'd love to play Radiant Silvergun, but it seems like Saturn is in no way short of good shmups anyway.By the way, nothing I could read from anyone will make me not want to play Shinobi Legions. I just need to play it.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Shinobi Legions is actually a legit good game. It just has a few poor levels.
Now that I have a new PC I will have to get SSF and run through my (now pitiful) collection.
Now that I have a new PC I will have to get SSF and run through my (now pitiful) collection.
SpikedGunner
Member
I'm kind of surprised at the higher asking for BR these days...but I guess it is getting harder to find a US copy these days.
Got the Euro RGB cable changed over to japanese...well for the most part. There are still three or four more wires I have to figure out where to solder, and the Euro cable had a little transistor in there bridging two things. Image is fine but occasionally has some minor flicker which means I've gotta connect something more. But 90% there, with sound.
xemumanic
Member
Got the Euro RGB cable changed over to japanese...well for the most part. There are still three or four more wires I have to figure out where to solder, and the Euro cable had a little transistor in there bridging two things. Image is fine but occasionally has some minor flicker which means I've gotta connect something more. But 90% there, with sound.
Dat scanline porn!
Someone here has gotta know what I'm talking about.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
I won't lie. Edited: It made me happy.
It's lower res but still runs at 60fps
sixteen-bit
Member
Got the Euro RGB cable changed over to japanese...well for the most part. There are still three or four more wires I have to figure out where to solder, and the Euro cable had a little transistor in there bridging two things. Image is fine but occasionally has some minor flicker which means I've gotta connect something more. But 90% there, with sound.
Wow, is this is from the Framemeister?
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
i wish sega made more saturn controllers for USB...it was perfect literraly perfect.
that's a lot for burning rangers. my jp copy was like 20 bucks.
I'd get the JP version, but I think the game is really dependent on vocal hints?
Yeah.
I'm still getting a bit of minor flickering. Rechecked everything. I'm going to go into the frammeister settings, maybe that it it. I used a japanese sigma rgb cable as well as the adapter that came with the upscaler, opened them up and lined up all the wires and soldered one-for-one. Still some extra wires unused.
This is the resistor that was inline on the euro cable, and it is not in my resoldered version. I think I'm good to go till I track down an official Saturn RGB cable.
EDIT: Okay, I went into the Frammeister setting and fooled around and I'm no longer getting flickering. Took it off meister mode and picked one of the normal. Sounds like I'm good to go. Tried out a few games and no issues.
Garegga is always my test game and it is looking wonderful on the 40" HDTV. Still gotta do some tweaking (but the frammeister menus are so complex):
And a Hyperduel:
I'd be curious to know what other folks are using for Saturn RGB settings on the Framemeister/XRGB-3.
Those Framemeister shots look crazy. Hope I can find a good scaler whenever my CRTs die, lol.
Yeah, I just checked it out. And really, it looks better than I remember. It still has the moving lighting in Picky's stage, even!
And I put in Fighters Megamix for probably the first time in over a decade. I was wrong on this one, it runs at 60 just like FV. Don't know where I got the idea that it ran at 30.
It's also an excellent game, holy shit.
Yeah, I just checked it out. And really, it looks better than I remember. It still has the moving lighting in Picky's stage, even!
And I put in Fighters Megamix for probably the first time in over a decade. I was wrong on this one, it runs at 60 just like FV. Don't know where I got the idea that it ran at 30.
It's also an excellent game, holy shit.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
So what's a good Saturn to USB adapter?
Just ran the emulator and everything seems decent enough.
Just ran the emulator and everything seems decent enough.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Inspired by Yes Boss's pictures, I dusted off the Saturn tonight for some Elevator Action Returns and played a console other than my 3DS XL for the first time in about two months. Jad the Taft was running folks down... literally. Seriously, he can body check hover-cycles. No problem. God I love this game. I wish I could find solid 2nd player to make a good at a co-op 1CC.
astronautcowboy
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Man, I can't believe that BR price on the last page. That's probably three times what I paid in college. PDS looks to have also increased to the tune of about double. I big part of me is tempted to just sell, not that I can buy all the same games for less in Japanese, and understand them (which I couldn't when I was a college freshman).
In truth, though, it's because I don't want to have to worry about those freakin' cases anymore. I literally bought every copy of $1 NHL 97 that my Toys R Us had for replacements, and still never had enough.
In truth, though, it's because I don't want to have to worry about those freakin' cases anymore. I literally bought every copy of $1 NHL 97 that my Toys R Us had for replacements, and still never had enough.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Nice!
Bought one. Mucho thanks.
Yep, this is why I'm using SSF.
Though there's ways to get a similar results for half the price. (Even less if you put some parts together yourself.
)http://www.arcadeforge.de/product_info.php?products_id=71&XTCsid=do87t24pkfh34dnnnnc4npigm7
Shadow Hog
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I wouldn't mind a scaler, but having only recently upgraded all my gaming equipment from composite (or RF, in the case of my Genesis) to S-Video, I'm not really ready to start buying more cables for SCART/RGB.
Yep, just 4:3 windowboxed. You would have to go tate on the big HDTV to get vertical scanlines with the upscaler (unless it has a vertical scanline option I don't know about) I'm keeping it all 4:3 in the sense that I'd be running a Saturn on an CRT. Image is plenty big.
sixteen-bit
Member
that's a lot of games to get at once
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45323674&postcount=426
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45323674&postcount=426
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Wow that reminds me of a huge bundle I bid on once. I dropped out though because I stupidly suspected something was wrong with the sale.
It was like 150 or so games, many of them were good to great titles, and there were even a few that justified the cost all by their lonesome (such as Hyper Duel). Part of the reason I balked was the absurd price. The auction ended at about $150 or so...maybe 200...
I really wish I didn't see this now. I'm a little depressed all of a sudden....
I'm still shocked that game got a double-disc set.
Shadow Hog
Member
He got, like, three copies of Last Bronx.
Genesis Knight
Member
How long ago was this?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Six or seven years ago. I forget exactly.
Genesis Knight
Member
My copy of Bulk Slash arrived. Love the OST, the opening cutscene, the over-the-top girly eye candy. Classic mid-90s Japanese action game, well worth the price. Handles like a dream, too.
JumpJeff84
Member
Shining Force III was my favorite Saturn game and one of my favorite games ever. Wish there was a way for me to play it again that wasn't expensive/illegal/a pain in the ass.
Is there any difference between House of the Dead 1 NA and JP versions aside from the green blood? I was reading another forum post that said something about the NA version runs at 60 fps or at least had a debug mode to unlock it?
Never seen the original game in action on a Saturn, so i'm not sure of the framerate, but i'd imagine it would have been 60 on both the JP and NA version at default.
Never seen the original game in action on a Saturn, so i'm not sure of the framerate, but i'd imagine it would have been 60 on both the JP and NA version at default.
Genesis Knight
Member
It does, yeah. Hard is much tougher.
Shadow Hog
Member
60FPS would be a sight to see, especially considering Virtua Cop was locked at 30 (or less, kinda hard to tell).
the androgyne
Member
It might have had a 50/60hz option in the debug but the FPS wasn't anywhere near 60 according to this
Well either way, just ordered one of these:
For about 35 bucks. The NA and EU guns look funny (Orange and Blue), and I found a Super Cobra awhile back at a thrift store...but it acts kinda strange at times (sometimes it works perfectly, other times...no hits at all). And honestly, I had no idea the JP gun was black, so that pretty much made this a must buy.
Only thing I dont like about ordering import titles from Japanese stores is how long the shipping takes lol. Even worse if the seller doesnt use a tracking number.
Yeah thats what the post actually said, 60hz. If its not that big of a difference, it would be nice if there was an AR code to unlock red blood in the JP version.
For about 35 bucks. The NA and EU guns look funny (Orange and Blue), and I found a Super Cobra awhile back at a thrift store...but it acts kinda strange at times (sometimes it works perfectly, other times...no hits at all). And honestly, I had no idea the JP gun was black, so that pretty much made this a must buy.
Only thing I dont like about ordering import titles from Japanese stores is how long the shipping takes lol. Even worse if the seller doesnt use a tracking number.
Yeah thats what the post actually said, 60hz. If its not that big of a difference, it would be nice if there was an AR code to unlock red blood in the JP version.
the androgyne
Member
On my last trip to Japan i actually picked up a Virtua Cop 1 + Gun bundle for 300Y, Virtua Cop 2 for 50Y and a second gun for 200Y! (all perfect as new condition as well)
I haven't had to do it myself, but i have friends who use various mail forwarding services to get stuff faster from Japan. The kind of prices i mentioned above are easy enough to get from Amazon Japan as well so maybe give it a go next time!
I haven't had to do it myself, but i have friends who use various mail forwarding services to get stuff faster from Japan. The kind of prices i mentioned above are easy enough to get from Amazon Japan as well so maybe give it a go next time!
Hmm, Bulk Slash is one of the few games I never picked up since I couldn't get any good impressions for it and at the time, I certainly wouldn't buy a somewhat unknown 3D shooter on the Saturn from a developer I'm not familiar with.
When I find a copy in mint condition for a decent price I'll certainly pick it up now.
When I find a copy in mint condition for a decent price I'll certainly pick it up now.
The Virtua Cop ports are impressive for the hardware, but among the home ports I go for the enhanced PS2 compilation release. I wish the PS2 ones looked closer to the Model 2 games, but they're crisp and run well and don't look bad.
Nice, thanks.
Nice, thanks.