ExitPlanetDust
Member
Yeah, I can't look at VVV Mars VG's collection for too long. It's like staring at the sun.
Fantastic work there man.
Fantastic work there man.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
- Thread starter Seik
- Start date
My copy of Mega Man X4 came today. Looks very pretty. Also finally will have a S-Video cable soon!
Right now I've been in a kind of retro Sim City kind of mood. With Sim City SNES and Sim City 2000 Saturn. I kinda for got the Saturn version is LAGGYYYYYY. Oh well, it's normal if I'm zoomed in. Taking up most of my ave space is inconvenient as well. But I use Action Replay 3in1, so I hae extra space and can move saves around.
I named my city Lagville. It seemed appropriate.. lol
Right now I've been in a kind of retro Sim City kind of mood. With Sim City SNES and Sim City 2000 Saturn. I kinda for got the Saturn version is LAGGYYYYYY. Oh well, it's normal if I'm zoomed in. Taking up most of my ave space is inconvenient as well. But I use Action Replay 3in1, so I hae extra space and can move saves around.
I named my city Lagville. It seemed appropriate.. lol
Nice, but isn't this MKR text heavy? I want a US version badly. D:
The only thing that sells me on this one is the japanese intro that sounds much better than the english one to me.
Man, I miss games with anime-based intros like this, it cranks me up before each gaming sessions since I always enjoy to watch those, kinda like watching an old school show on TV. Many of my favorite games have this style. MMX3, MMX4, Vanguard Bandits, etc.
Burning Rangers does a great job at hyping me as well so far.
I've always preferred the Saturn to the PSX version, if only for the controller. In many ways the [Japanese] controller is a natural extension of the SNES's, and it's great to use for 2d games like X4. I've never been as comfortable with the PSX controller, so I couldn't play it as well on that system. It does look a bit nicer, and it was the lead platform, but the Saturn's audio loop fixes and easier control puts it over the top for me.
Then again, I may just be biased. I'm the guy who played Resident Evil on the Saturn and RE 2 on the N64
Shadow Hog
Member
Well, yes; it's an RPG, technically, and definitely has text-based cutscenes like old SNES RPGs tended to have. A few anime cutscenes as well, but usually they're fairly brief. That said, the actual game part is incredibly straightforward, from what I remember, so you might be able to get by with a translation FAQ or something.
And yeah, I don't believe dubs of songs tend to be as good as the songs in their original tongue.
cj_iwakura
Member
Nice, but isn't this MKR text heavy? I want a US version badly. D:
The only thing that sells me on this one is the japanese intro that sounds much better than the english one to me.
Man, I miss games with anime-based intros like this, it cranks me up before each gaming sessions since I always enjoy to watch those, kinda like watching an old school show on TV. Many of my favorite games have this style. MMX3, MMX4, Vanguard Bandits, etc.
Burning Rangers does a great job at hyping me as well so far.
I could be wrong, but I recall Victor saying they had no choice but to dub MKR's OP, as well as make a new logo; the anime publishers had rights to the legit stuff.
I liked the new OP, but yeah, the JP version is classic.
Still, MKR is a wonderful game, and goes for surprisingly cheap(compared to other WD classics anyway).
Well, I'm not surprised, this happened frequently back then.
Anyway, it's not like the english version is horrible, it's actually quite descent, but it doesn't beat the real thing.
Don't tempt me, that D&D wound still hurts. D:
Nice, but isn't this MKR text heavy? I want a US version badly. D:
The only thing that sells me on this one is the japanese intro that sounds much better than the english one to me.
Man, I miss games with anime-based intros like this, it cranks me up before each gaming sessions since I always enjoy to watch those, kinda like watching an old school show on TV. Many of my favorite games have this style. MMX3, MMX4, Vanguard Bandits, etc.
Burning Rangers does a great job at hyping me as well so far.
Watching that X3 opening blew my mind just now. I JUST noticed that Zero goes from his X2/X3 look at 1:28, to his X1 look at 1:31! WOW! :O
IrishNinja
Member
for some reason i knew of MMX4 on saturn, not 3...that's pretty cool. i'm assuming it was a good port?
my recent modded genesis/sega-cd purchase brought like 60 games, a few of which id not played prior..one was theme park, which i wish idve played back when i was hooked on SNES sim city. this is so cool.
also: i'm glad to hear you got an s-video cord, man!
no one should every lose patience & pay too much, much less asshole amazon seller prices
ps i know it's not encouraged here, but...every copy of Yu Suzuki's Gameworks i find online is just an emulator copy, wish i could find a burnable one. kills me that we only saw his work for another gen or so, and then Naka did stuff i didn't even get around to trying like Billy Hatcher and Let's Tap
my recent modded genesis/sega-cd purchase brought like 60 games, a few of which id not played prior..one was theme park, which i wish idve played back when i was hooked on SNES sim city. this is so cool.
also: i'm glad to hear you got an s-video cord, man!
no one should every lose patience & pay too much, much less asshole amazon seller prices
ps i know it's not encouraged here, but...every copy of Yu Suzuki's Gameworks i find online is just an emulator copy, wish i could find a burnable one. kills me that we only saw his work for another gen or so, and then Naka did stuff i didn't even get around to trying like Billy Hatcher and Let's Tap
Nice, but isn't this MKR text heavy? I want a US version badly. D:
The only thing that sells me on this one is the japanese intro that sounds much better than the english one to me.
Man, I miss games with anime-based intros like this, it cranks me up before each gaming sessions since I always enjoy to watch those, kinda like watching an old school show on TV. Many of my favorite games have this style. MMX3, MMX4, Vanguard Bandits, etc.
Burning Rangers does a great job at hyping me as well so far.
Agreed.
Eh? Where'd you find an S-Video cable?
It's not that good, especially because there is some kind of always on '4:3 mode', I don't really know how to call this.
See.
I prefer the SNES music as well, the CD-based remixes aren't as catchy. Still, I always play this version since I have it because...errr...because MMX Sega hype and FMVs.
MMX4 is impeccable though.
Someone on GAF had a extra copy and sold it to me.
And about MMX3, i plan to get it on SNES since I heard the SNES version is better.
metsallica
Member
Anyone have thoughts on the non-SotN games? Are they any good? I know SotN is worth $70, but was wondering if the other games were interesting at all!
DJ Wars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRe71jxum4
Cube Battler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq-wVOQm_rI
I've never heard of these before, they certain look... different.
cj_iwakura
Member
I don't know if anyone here's playing AO or, uh, even finished it(I'm maybe halfway), but the poll for next month should start soon if you want to contribute any suggestions.
cj_iwakura
Member
Never even heard of it, must be by the Lunatic/Lunar artist though.
smbu2000
Member
Yumimi mix remix is a remake of a Mega CD game.
Yumimi Mix Remix
Dinosaur Island is an all new game.
Dinosaur Island
The other one is a special preview disc for the Dinosaur Island. Preview Disc
I only recognized them because my girlfriend has a PSP game (Rupu Sarada) with characters drawn by the same artist.
http://sega.jp/psp/lupp/
Red Blaster
Member
so many cool saturn games i'd like to play but they're all in japanese
feels bad man
feels bad man
cj_iwakura
Member
Has it been too long since a Bulk Slash shoutout? I think it has! I took a break from it to brush up on my Japanese enough to understand the briefings, and it's still every bit as awesome as the day I got it. I really want to thank everyone in this thread for introducing me to it, this is definitely a gem of a Saturn game.
Jack up the speakers! This thing brings the boom on my stereo amp; it's in itself a celebration of all things Saturn.
Still gotta play Grandia someday. As a huge Lunar fan I hear it's amazing, and thankfully I've stayed unspoiled on what happens. Just gotta keep reviewing that vocab and...someday!
Edit: I've been curious about the Martian Successor Nadesico game, but it's been tough to find good footage. Would anyone here recommend it, or it is just a licensed panderfest? Seems like it takes after the movie...
Jack up the speakers! This thing brings the boom on my stereo amp; it's in itself a celebration of all things Saturn.
Still gotta play Grandia someday. As a huge Lunar fan I hear it's amazing, and thankfully I've stayed unspoiled on what happens. Just gotta keep reviewing that vocab and...someday!
Edit: I've been curious about the Martian Successor Nadesico game, but it's been tough to find good footage. Would anyone here recommend it, or it is just a licensed panderfest? Seems like it takes after the movie...
cj_iwakura
Member
Grandia's good. Not great, but good.
Grandia II is amazing.
Grandia II is amazing.
I agree with you saying Grandia II is amazing, the game is simply excellent.
But Grandia, good, but not great? Harsh words to my eyes.
It's not that good, especially because there is some kind of always on '4:3 mode', I don't really know how to call this.
See.
I prefer the SNES music as well, the CD-based remixes aren't as catchy. Still, I always play this version since I have it because...errr...because MMX Sega hype and FMVs.
MMX4 is impeccable though.
ugh, so they just kept the sfc internal 8:7 ratio instead of stretching it to 4:3 like it's supposed to be. The reasons to avoid the cd version of x3 keep piling up.
alf717
Member
I like threads like these. I got my Saturn years ago and got it mostly for the Megaman / Rockman stuff. I have a few other games and might beef up my collection when I start working again. I really like the episode of Game Sack. Never knew of these guys until this thread. Already watched all of their episodes and I like it a lot.
Superblatt
Member
Any recommendations for buying my first import shmup? I need to order an action replay too. It's my birthday gift -- just need to tell the wife what to buy and from where. Preferably $120 or under total including the action replay.
cj_iwakura
Member
Funny you should mention, I just bought mine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300867158147
IrishNinja
Member
classic ad, blew my mind at the time
Genesis Knight
Member
Souykyugurentai: Otokuyo (this version specifically if you are going to be using the Action Replay.)
Superblatt
Member
Why Otokuyo?
Genesis Knight
Member
It's the re-release of the game and it doesn't have the crazy glitched text with the Action Replay like the standard release does.
I had that at one point and got it for under $60 due to a mislabeled Ebay auction. Damn was that a ton of fun to play.
I had a Saturn collection that was about 80 US games and 30 or so imports (mostly fighters... and Capcom to boot)
Unfortunately I had to sell right around when my second daughter was born due to needing the money. I know I sold it all for VERY cheap.. or at least cheaper than parting it out.
Now I see threads like this and would love to have it back.
The Saturn is a system I have owned 3 or 4 times now. I bought my first one at launch, then got rid of it, bought another, then sold it and then the third was when I built the huge collection.
Now.... I see this thread and want back in. Dammit.
I saw an AES in the wild yesterday. I was FLOORED.
I was at a store called the Exchange local to me and they a freaking WONDERLAND as far as old systems go.
They had a boxed Saturn for $50 (this is TEMPTING)
An AES for $300
TWO Turbo Expresses
2 Jaguars, one with the freaking CD attachment
A Panasonic 3DO
and all the usuals like PS1s, PS2s, Xboxen, etc.
If you can have a good look at that Saturn, $50 boxed isn't bad. Sometimes the box hides a beat up system. I got a box with my Neo, but the Neo AES itself has a crack in the casing. That was a bummer. It was misrepresented on eBay really. I just wasn't going to fight with the guy.
$300 for an AES is too much unless it comes with a bunch of stuff IMO.
That's super cool though. How much were those Turbos? I think those are pricey...
$300 for an AES is too much unless it comes with a bunch of stuff IMO.
That's super cool though. How much were those Turbos? I think those are pricey...
Shadow Hog
Member
"Xboxen" is an awesome word.
papersleeves
Member
Holy mother shit Batman. I am kind of freaking out right now. I had this XRGB-3 taking a bit of dust recently and decided to purchase a SCART cable for my Saturn so I could use it alongside the upscaler/line doubler.
I bought my cable from this guy.
Seems pretty clear to me that cable is a proper RGB-21 SCART cable, considering he mentions multiple times that this cable should be used with a Japanese console only.
So I plugged the bastard in my Saturn. I plug the other side in my XRGB-3. I power on the XRGB-3. I select game-in as the input. I power on the Saturn. I get really quick bad flashes on screen then nothing. After 2 seconds, a burnt electronic smell comes off my Saturn. I rapidly shut down the XRGB-3 then the Saturn. Needless to say, at that point I was very anxious. I plug it back on my CRT TV using standard composite cable. I power it on and here's the result of this pathetic experience:
My Saturn is dead
What you see is what it really displays. All the bleeding, all the over saturation, the colors that keep changing, the red color pulsating in the backround, the greyish shit all over the screen. Only the upward scan line is from the camera (due to filming a CRT display). This Sega Saturn is literally fucking dead Worse, I have no way to determine whether or not it also fried the RGB-21 (GAME-IN) port on the XRGB-3.
Fucking third party bullshit. I don't know what the fuck happened. If the seller accidentally sent me an EURO Scart cable instead or if there was some kind of short in the cable but all I know is that I need a new Saturn, a new RGB-21 cable and potentially have a dead game-in port. Bullshit!
Edit: the XRGB-3 appears to work fine so far using the component input (PS2). I'm just worried about the RGB-21 port.
I bought my cable from this guy.
Seems pretty clear to me that cable is a proper RGB-21 SCART cable, considering he mentions multiple times that this cable should be used with a Japanese console only.
So I plugged the bastard in my Saturn. I plug the other side in my XRGB-3. I power on the XRGB-3. I select game-in as the input. I power on the Saturn. I get really quick bad flashes on screen then nothing. After 2 seconds, a burnt electronic smell comes off my Saturn. I rapidly shut down the XRGB-3 then the Saturn. Needless to say, at that point I was very anxious. I plug it back on my CRT TV using standard composite cable. I power it on and here's the result of this pathetic experience:
My Saturn is dead
What you see is what it really displays. All the bleeding, all the over saturation, the colors that keep changing, the red color pulsating in the backround, the greyish shit all over the screen. Only the upward scan line is from the camera (due to filming a CRT display). This Sega Saturn is literally fucking dead
Worse, I have no way to determine whether or not it also fried the RGB-21 (GAME-IN) port on the XRGB-3.Fucking third party bullshit. I don't know what the fuck happened. If the seller accidentally sent me an EURO Scart cable instead or if there was some kind of short in the cable but all I know is that I need a new Saturn, a new RGB-21 cable and potentially have a dead game-in port. Bullshit!
Edit: the XRGB-3 appears to work fine so far using the component input (PS2). I'm just worried about the RGB-21 port.
Heh, I feel sorry for you man, that's a lot of money on the table.
Well, maybe now you'll switch to emulation like me, after such an experience I'd be fucking salty.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Holy shit, papersleeves. I'll read through the details in a bit. I only had a few mins to drop in and read through the latest posts. Really sorry to hear about your Saturn. I hope you can fix it.
papersleeves
Member
I am afraid I'll have to buy another one. Seems like an IC fried or something. I opened it earlier tonight and there is a strong burnt smell all across the PSU board as well as the main board. The Saturn is nothing compared to my fear regarding the RGB-21 port. So Anxious.
Me right now:
Shadow Hog
Member
That's okay, the Saturn life is a fun one, provided you have the token billion dollars it requires.
I am afraid I'll have to buy another one. Seems like an IC fried or something. I opened it earlier tonight and there is a strong burnt smell all across the PSU board as well as the main board. The Saturn is nothing compared to my fear regarding the RGB-21 port. So Anxious.
Me right now:
Damn...
At least keep the shell, so if you buy another JAP Saturn, even if it's in bad shape you'll be able to switch it with your actual case.
What a fucking waste, it was so clean. D: